In what order would you like to see reworks or changes for killers?
1.)Freddy (Rework)
2.)Legion (Rework)
3.)Pig (just some QoL stuff and add on rework)
4.)Leatherface (Rework)
5.)Trapper (Buffs in general)
6.)Clown (Boring to play)
7.)Wraith (Buffs or rework, IDK)
8.)Nurse (You can't beat a God Nurse)
The others are ok, or are at least situated.
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Leatherface would be #1 to get buffed for me.
I'm biased, his franchise is my favorite of what we have so far.0 -
1.- i do agree
2.- yes
3.- you habe a buff on the ptb
4.-i hope so
5.-why
6.-wut?
7.-why
8.- nurse need a full rework of her addons especially omegablink0 -
- Leatherface/Freddy/Legion rework.
- Nurse nerfed/Reworked
- Hag base teleporting distance is 60m and her addons to increase her teleporting distance are removed.
- Spirit has that Amulet addon built it.
- Myers can stalk you if ur anywhere in his LOS (so not the 40m it is right now), EW3 is 20 seconds longer, 20% faster stalking and he has no cap.
- Wraith has a 2 second speed burst, super fast invis speed.
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Freddy--Rework
Legion--tweak
Pig--Buff (she needs more help, most Pig players agree)
Trapper--small buff, he needs two traps at start. His biggest problem is that he spends too much time with prep therefore wastes his time.Other than them I don't think anyone else needs help, everyone seems to be in a good place. I know everyone complains about Leatherface, he sucks or is too op, he can't be both guys come on. There is nothing that can be done with Leatherface that won't make him even more powerful or weaker.If you can convince me otherwise than I'll change my mind.
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1.) Legion, nerf. - shouldn't be able to proximity chase bleedout survivors until they fall. Make it so if you are in the killer's TR then the bleedout stops, proximity chasing makes Legion broken. Give cooldown to attacking while in frenzy, Legion can actually move even faster in frenzy if he attacks and "whiffs" while running = broken.
2.)Pig, proximity chasing and beartraps, similar to legion, if within Terror radius, then timer shouldn't countdown. As it stands there is barely enough time to run through the map and hit 4 boxes before the timer goes off, if the pig decides to mess with you, you're just out of luck unless you luckout and get it off before the 4th box.
3.) Increase the sound of his song, the worst thing about vs Freddy IMO is never knowing where he is, his song is often almost silent until you are going into transition. this is part of the reason why so many survivors "don't respect him" and run around the map. - They don't have any idea where he is until they're right in front of him. make his terror radius more noticeable. As far as does he need a buff. .... IDK..... Rank 1 Freddys are a beast. He just takes more skill than most and he is a late game killer.
4.) If they go ahead and decrease the BP for killers camping that would fix much of LF's problems. Collision does seem to be off a little bit with him when he's using his chainsaw, not hitting trees or tires when he clearly swings right through them.
5.) Trapper is pretty good where he's at, again just need to know how to play him, and where to place traps. I just 4x and 3x again yesterday with trapper and I used the addon to not injure survivors caught in traps. Come on people it's not hard and I we're talking rank 2 survivors.
6.) Clown boring,... - It's just not your play style, and that's ok. pick a different killer.
7.) Wraith was just buffed not too long ago and is now somewhat OP. When I play survivor at rank 2, if it's a wraith, 9/10 the whole team is going down. With his speed, and addons and speed increases when coming out he is becoming a very strong killer.
8.) Nurse.... I like to verse nurse honestly. I don't know what they would do with the absolute top tier nurse players. The trick with nurse (one that isn't running omega blink) is to be unpredictable. Even at high ranks it is rare for me to not enjoy playing against a nurse. If you make your movements sporatic and unpredictable you can have chases go on for awhile. - Until the nurse gets tired of it and just bloodlust tunnels you down, - which they usually end up doing to me.0 -
HURRI_KAIN said:
2.)Pig, proximity chasing and beartraps, similar to legion, if within Terror radius, then timer shouldn't countdown. As it stands there is barely enough time to run through the map and hit 4 boxes before the timer goes off, if the pig decides to mess with you, you're just out of luck unless you luckout and get it off before the 4th box.
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Legion is broken on a fundamental level and needs to be completely reworked. They're the worst addition to the game since Decisive Strike and incredibly unhealthy for the game. After that, Freddy needs a rework. Then Leatherface. He should be more than just a crappy version of Hillbilly.
After these reworks I'd look at quality of life improvements to Pig, including making some of her addons baseline. Along with this I'd look at Myers' addons. He has a lot of completely useless addons. Almost all of his good addons are rare. The jewelry addons that improve movement speed while stalking should do something different or be buffed significantly and the yellow and green mirror addons should be completely reworked. I'd make them enable multi-survivor stalking. With Myers you currently either bring in a specialized build with at least one very rare or ultra rare addon, or you throw on some stalking addons, some EW3 extending addons and/or a dead rabbit. Myers' browns and yellows are almost useless, whereas on most killers there are some solid picks even among brown ubiquitous addons. I'd also improve his stalking on maps with corn and other vision blockers. It feels very unfair that some maps are intentionally designed to discriminate against Myers and prevent you from stalking someone in plain sight.0 -
Just buff Leatherface already. He's one of the most iconic horror movie slashers.
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- Freddy needs his complete rework where he is, his perks gear him to be an end game killer but the dream transition just makes him a joke.
- Legion needs tweaking definitely and needs that proximity bleedout glitch/bug fixed
- Pig is in an alright spot with her crouch buff, make ambush a little better and fix her add ons and she is good to go.
- Doctor is a complete joke (Queue everyone flaming me). If he isn't a god doctor that can shock you out of pallets and windows he is just an m1 as his madness does nearly nothing, his madness needs to be reworked to be a little more decent/stalling.
- Trapper, make him have a default trapper bag so he doesn't waste so much time placing traps.
- Leatherface, personally think he's okay improve his tracking as making him 100% speed charging chainsaw will make him literally impossible to escape without jungle gyms or pallets
- Nurse (Oh here we go) she's a tough one to balance out but currently a god nurse breaks the game completely, there needs to be something that allows a defence to her as although yes you can stealth once she has found you its game over.
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@WaffleFalafel said:
For me personally,
1.)Freddy (Rework)
2.)Legion (Rework)
3.)Pig (just some QoL stuff and add on rework)
4.)Leatherface (Rework)
5.)Trapper (Buffs in general)
6.)Clown (Boring to play)
7.)Wraith (Buffs or rework, IDK)
8.)Nurse (You can't beat a God Nurse)The others are ok, or are at least situated.
- freddy
- trapper
- doc
- LF
- clown
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As far as actual buffs and reworks go, here is what I would mark down ;
1 : Legion (Complete rework from scratch) - Legion is fundamentally broken and making them more fun to play as and against should become the new priority as opposed to Freddy who does not even require a rework in the first place, as it stands it does not matter if legion is "strong" or "weak" if they ignore everything and make the game both boring and unfun for both sides.
2 : Leatherface (Major buffs or rework) - Without a doubt in my mind I can say that leatherface is infact the weakest killer to be released if you do not count legion's "intended" gameplay functions (which is not used). Unlike legion, leatherface does not require a rework but it can be nice if they ever made a more unique way to execute this killer.
3 : Pig (Moderate buffs and addon rework) - As it stands, pig is still not in a very fantastic spot and I find her to be lacking especially in addons related to the ambush. Her RBT's take up the most addons yet most of them make her already RNG power even more RNG than before, she needs more consistency to her RBT power and in return lose some addons for it so they can make more exciting ones regarding her ambush.
4 : Freddy (Moderate buffs, slight addon rework) - Freddy does not need a rework plain and simple, to say he does only takes away from the dev's ability to make more valuable changes to the game, time of which I feel will be very important when they get around to working on the dedicated servers and more. All Freddy needs to be good is 4 buffs and an addon rework to a select few addons. My ideas for instance are to make a weaker baseline class photo, increase movement speed when nobody is asleep (while someone transitions or is asleep that speed boost is lost), lose the ability to interact with everything except hooks while transitioning and make it so self-care doesn't wake you up. I'd argue you wouldn't even need all of these changes as even just 1 or 2 of them does the job pretty well.
5 : Trapper (QoL, slight buffs) - Trapper wastes too much time for a game based around fast gameplay. Just allow him to spawn with all of his traps and allow him to rearm unset traps. His bag addons can be adjusted to allow for some form of replacement cycle like the hag has for her traps or simply increase the number of traps he can have.
6 : Doctor (Rework) - Doctor is just annoying yet weak, annoyance is not something one should have when playing as or against the doctor, some people might find him fun as that's subjective though I think it's time to throw in the towel as a rework is the best way to give doctor the attention he needs.
7 : Wraith (Very slight buffs & QoL) - Wraith is in a very good spot after his addon rework took place, honestly all you really need to do with him is increase his base cloak movement speed and maybe some QoL changes.
8 : Nurse (Addon rework) - Nurse is in a tricky spot, but honestly the best hop of getting a change for nurse is to redo her addons which needs to be done anyways as her addons don't match the preferred addon rarity distribution.Pretty much every other killer is in a near perfect spot and only ever requires some slight changes to go with the updates whether it be strictly QoL, bugfixes or slight additions every here and there like adding or redoing some addons. Every other killer not mentioned in this post (Spirit, Huntress, Hillbilly, Hag, Clown, Myers) are doing very well while other killers like Wraith can be in a perfect spot with only slight changes which only has to do with some values.
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I'm hoping for an addition to The Pig so that she can vault pallets at the speed of survivors when they slow vault a pallet, but maybe increase the time so the time that she takes to vault the pallet is the same time as if you were breaking a pallet.
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- Nurse - delete this op bs
- Hillbilly - same
- Hag - op, needs nerfs badly
- Huntress - needs her addons nerfed
- Clown - same
Everyone else is balanced.
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I really want to see some buffs to my boy Doctor. His base shock charge speed should be increased by 25%, his movement speed while charging his shock should be 100%, and the shock delay needs to either be removed or shortened by at least 50%. His add-ons that increase shock range would be nerfed to 20%, 40%, and 60%, respectively to reflect the base shock range buff. His illusions should also not spawn on a different floor than the Survivor it is tracking. It is really annoying to search a floor because the illusion keeps spawning there when the Survivor is actually on a different floor.
After that I'd like see a Freddy rework, Legion rework, Leatherface buffs, Trapper buffs, and some Wraith buffs. I'm not really sure what I'd do for any of those Killers except for Trapper. I'd let him arm traps that are already on the ground, start with two traps, and maybe have their color try to match the environment (this would help with indoor maps like Lery's and The Game).
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@yes said:
I'm hoping for an addition to The Pig so that she can vault pallets at the speed of survivors when they slow vault a pallet, but maybe increase the time so the time that she takes to vault the pallet is the same time as if you were breaking a pallet.A fair idea I would say make her do a similar vault to legion just a little bit slower. if it took her the same amount of time to vault as it did to break the addition would be useless. Why would you vault the pallet when in the same time you could break it and stop the survivors loop?
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@Doulldozer said:
@yes said:
I'm hoping for an addition to The Pig so that she can vault pallets at the speed of survivors when they slow vault a pallet, but maybe increase the time so the time that she takes to vault the pallet is the same time as if you were breaking a pallet.A fair idea I would say make her do a similar vault to legion just a little bit slower. if it took her the same amount of time to vault as it did to break the addition would be useless. Why would you vault the pallet when in the same time you could break it and stop the survivors loop?
True.. maybe make the vault speed slower than that or a bit faster than pallet breaking speed without Brutal Strength.
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