What would you guys do to change Freddy?

I feel like freddy needs his ultimate forms like Powerglove freddy or needlfingers freddy each with a different style of play that can be swapped around. They honestly need to ditch the whole wakeup bit with the clocks it was interesting at first but you almost dont want to wake up so that you can see where he is at times.

A whole rework which turns him into a tier based killer to be able to incorporate old Freddy and today's Freddy into the game.

This way people who enjoyed Old Freddy would have him back, and people who enjoy today's Freddy still get to enjoy him

i think he needs a small rework bringing elements of old and new freddy combined in 1 power along side a add on rework aswell.

i have my own unique rework idea for him however it just wont work in dbd lol

Reverse to the original version and give him some QoL changes like being able to interact with awake survivors that are performing an action.

The latter yes, the former no.

He was just really unfun.

He'd lose, but it'd take 20 minutes.

First of all remove the current rope/chain addons. They're borderline useless and don't do anything. Put in new addons that replace his generator teleport for his old dream demon to manually put survivors to sleep with ranges of 8/16/24m depending on addon rarity. Now if you don't want to use the generator teleport as freddy you can swap it out for the new addons that give you your old power back with the downside of no more passive microsleep. You a little bit of the old Freddy back and now he's got his own little niche where you can mix and match parts of his power to your liking. Old dream demon + dream pallets? Sure. Dream teleport and dream pallets? why not. I think that'll make him far more appealing then what he currently is right now. The old code is there, it's just a matter of reworking it into new addons for him.

I remember his release weekend. People disconnected because they only faced Freddy during a free weekend with double bloodpoints.

The 20 minute matches thing was from the reworked Freddy.

Only for sleeping survivors.

Waking up was as easy as failing any skill check.

Not by more time than what it took Freddy to put survivors asleep.

Take away his Marth melee range. I love seeing him hit people from Narnia.

I posted on the Q&A section if we'd ever see old freddys power back and last time I checked, it was rated on - 11, so i don't think people want that.

I am glad you asked :)

I already have the concept ready:

Power: Dream Demon

Pull survivors into the Dream World

-Survivors who are awake do not see The Nightmare.

-Once targeted by The Nightmare’s power, survivors enter the Dream Transition for 7 seconds.

-The Nightmare’s Movement Speed Penalty for putting a survivor into the Dream Transition lasts for 1 second.

-During the Dream Transition Survivors can see The Nightmare intermittently and they suffer from the Incapacitated status effect.

-When the Dream Transition Lapse, the Survivor is pulled into the Dream World.

Once in the Dream World:

-Survivor’s auras are revealed to The Nightmare when they are outside of his terror radius.

-Survivors suffer an action speed penalty of 40%.

-To exit the Dream World, Survivors can find non-sleeping Survivors to perform a wake up action.

-Failed Skill Checks can also wake up.

-Hooked Survivors wake up.

Special Ability: Dream Projection

-Teleport to a Generator in view. Releasing the button early will cancel the action.

-Survivors cannot interact with the targeted Generator.

“You have nothing to worry about. This won’t hurt one… little… bit.” -Freddy Krueger

It is easy to fix a killer when said killer already had a borderline perfect design once.

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Old Freddy is not the way to go. Game delay powers should be relegated to the dumpster. You end up with a synergy situation where a not-so-skilled killer player can stack 4 game delay perks on top of a game delay killer power and simply win via attrition. It's not a fun gameplay concept. We had to cross this same bridge not even a year ago with new Freddy's add ons.

I'm pretty sure that a failed gen skill check is -10% progression and a pause for 3 seconds. I think that equates to a little more than the amount of time it took to put people to sleep.

Besides, then Freddy would come over there, put you asleep again and then you need to fail another skill check, thus stalling the game for God knows how long.

As i said, any failed skill check would work. This includes healing skill checks.

Teleporting on top of the slowdown would be to much.

I disagree. Game delay powers can be good when they are executed in a good manner. Cenobites chainhunt is a good example as are Pigs traps. Both add to the game by offering a new objective and forcing survivors to coordinate without being over the top.

Please do not understand delay Perks as basics. You lead yourself into a trap when you build the game around Hex: Ruin or Pop goes the Weasle. The perks should be adjusted to the powers and not the other way around. A Killer should feel rewarding to play without the need for perks.

Thanks for your input. I like the idea that Freddy has to pull you into the Dream World and I also like the idea that he is very strong once you enter his domain. This is the way it should be, no power while you are awake, godlike power once you enter his world.

However I am conflicted about a flat action speed penalty for being in the Dream World. This seems a bit harsh especially if it reaches all the way up to 40%. Thanatophobia is already pretty hard once you are hit by it and that is only 40%, 50% as an example from Coulrophobia can be very, very oppressive.

A more interactive mechanic to escape the dream would add more while allowing such a huge slowdown in my opinion. I would leave the clocks in the game when taking such a massive slowdown and give Freddy the ability to teleport to his clocks on top of the generators.

This would leave him with mobility all game while at the same time leaving clocks a risky tool to escape the nightmare. You can take the "safe" option of having a teammate to wake you up or the dangerous option to just take the clock and risk Freddy appearing right in front of you.

Original Freddys slowdown was more interactive. Since he had to put every single survivor asleep. It made hit and run attacks possible, while not being as boring as forever Freddy, which came after his rework.

It just looks long because he’s a small model. 🤷🏻‍♀️

sounds fun.

I haven´t forgotten how fun he was. Mained him for 2 years, right until they reworked him and turned him into a different killer.