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The Legion sucks, pass it on

Ray_Penber
Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
edited January 2019 in General Discussions
Dear devs,

I bought The Legion in anticipation of having a great buff on him like you talked about in the last ptb before he/she was released. That buff would have possibly made him more viable. Especially with franks mix tape. Then we got a whole bunch of whiners that said two hits while injured was op. Give me a break people. It gave you an actual reason to heal. Whine about that, but totally ignore the fact the Myers has wall hack add ons, insta kill add ons, and an unlimited evil within tier 3 add on. What he needed was not to take that great buff away, but give him some counter play. Now he will not recieve that buff and now he still sucks in the upper ranks. Devs chose one. Either give him a great buff like you were going to do before the whiners came out or rework his entire ridiculous power or just give me my money back that I wasted buying your trash killer.

                                             Sincerely yours,
                           A very unhappy person of the fog


Comments

  • Gardenia
    Gardenia Member Posts: 1,143
    See Ray Penber, it's articles like this which is why light wrote your name in the death note lol. However, I do somewhat agree 
  • Gardenia
    Gardenia Member Posts: 1,143
    Sounds like a whine post complaining about whiners tbh.

    The one part of the buff they planned was op there are multiple videos showing what was happening, they are still getting two out of the three buffs being tested.

    If you bought something to to it being on the ptb well what can I say, nothing on the ptb is ever guaranteed so its a lesson learned.
    To be frank(no pun intended) the lessen of the VFX blur while in frenzy isn't a buff.
  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,095

    The Legion sucks.......in other news water is wet.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,464

    Honestly, I don't think Legion sucks. If you want to learn how to play him, I recommend tru3ta1ents videos, he knows how to do really well with Legion. I wouldn't mind though if he sucked as of now, since he has no counterplay and is so boring and frustrating to play against. I'm against survivors rage quitting but I can definitely understand why survivors do that against Legion.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    The problem with Legion is that there is no counter play, you will go down eventually. And there is nothing you can do to make him better or worse without completely reworking his power

  • Maj33y
    Maj33y Member Posts: 236
    The concept of the legion and his power is awesome the thing is with the way it is portrayed.. imagine a killer that would take a chunck of your Health with every Slice through your flesh .. their presence alone should instill great terror .. they could have done something with foot steps .. and having the damage taken actually affects one health and not like a side health bar with a timer as it is now .. would make the legion more powerful and among top tier killers .. I've played him and he's decent with the right add-ons but he does need some kind of a buff
  • ItsYourBoyGuzma
    ItsYourBoyGuzma Member Posts: 797
    Dear devs,

    I bought The Legion in anticipation of having a great buff on him like you talked about in the last ptb before he/she was released. That buff would have possibly made him more viable. Especially with franks mix tape. Then we got a whole bunch of whiners that said two hits while injured was op. Give me a break people. It gave you an actual reason to heal. Whine about that, but totally ignore the fact the Myers has wall hack add ons, insta kill add ons, and an unlimited evil within tier 3 add on. What he needed was not to take that great buff away, but give him some counter play. Now he will not recieve that buff and now he still sucks in the upper ranks. Devs chose one. Either give him a great buff like you were going to do before the whiners came out or rework his entire ridiculous power or just give me my money back that I wasted buying your trash killer.

                                                 Sincerely yours,
                               A very unhappy person of the fog


    You actually purchased that PoS chapter? LMAO

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA&app=desktop
  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @Gardenia said:
    See Ray Penber, it's articles like this which is why light wrote your name in the death note lol. However, I do somewhat agree 

    I love that anime.

  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
    Dear devs,

    I bought The Legion in anticipation of having a great buff on him like you talked about in the last ptb before he/she was released. That buff would have possibly made him more viable. Especially with franks mix tape. Then we got a whole bunch of whiners that said two hits while injured was op. Give me a break people. It gave you an actual reason to heal. Whine about that, but totally ignore the fact the Myers has wall hack add ons, insta kill add ons, and an unlimited evil within tier 3 add on. What he needed was not to take that great buff away, but give him some counter play. Now he will not recieve that buff and now he still sucks in the upper ranks. Devs chose one. Either give him a great buff like you were going to do before the whiners came out or rework his entire ridiculous power or just give me my money back that I wasted buying your trash killer.

                                                 Sincerely yours,
                               A very unhappy person of the fog


    You actually purchased that PoS chapter? LMAO

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA&app=desktop
    Something I now regret. Next time they come out with a god awful killer I will actually wait to see a actual viable buff come out for him in an update and see if people will actually buy him then.
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    omg stop whining!

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606
    edited January 2019

    if you can do a better job, go make your own game because i am fed up of threads been a little bitches thread

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Ray_Penber said:
    Dear devs,

    I bought The Legion in anticipation of having a great buff on him like you talked about in the last ptb before he/she was released. That buff would have possibly made him more viable. Especially with franks mix tape. Then we got a whole bunch of whiners that said two hits while injured was op. Give me a break people. It gave you an actual reason to heal. Whine about that, but totally ignore the fact the Myers has wall hack add ons, insta kill add ons, and an unlimited evil within tier 3 add on. What he needed was not to take that great buff away, but give him some counter play. Now he will not recieve that buff and now he still sucks in the upper ranks. Devs chose one. Either give him a great buff like you were going to do before the whiners came out or rework his entire ridiculous power or just give me my money back that I wasted buying your trash killer.

                                                 Sincerely yours,
                               A very unhappy person of the fog

    You should have look at BHVR history (pointing at freddy here) and should have made an educated decision.

  • Onionthing
    Onionthing Member Posts: 469

    I love my Susie :( .. no bully my Susie!

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @Onionthing said:
    I love my Susie :( .. no bully my Susie!

    heart hands susie

  • Kind_Lemon
    Kind_Lemon Member Posts: 2,559

    Legion on the power scale (5 max points for each category)

    Tracking survivors: 4
    Dealing with pallets: 4
    Dealing with windows: 4
    Dealing with loops in general: 2
    Chasing a survivor with no obstacles: 3
    Map pressure: 3
    End Game potential: 1
    Getting bloodpoints: 5

    Downing survivors (without Frank's): 0
    Downing survivors (with Frank's): 5

    Total: 31/45 without Frank's and 36/45 with Frank's

    For some reason, Legion does really well in knowing where survivors are and hitting them, but he is a bad killer due to his lack of ability to down with his base ability.

    He's an unfun killer, and the only thing that prevents him from being exceedingly powerful and game breaking is his inability to down. What Legion does is take every part of the game other than the chase and nullify it.

  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
    Sounds like a whine post complaining about whiners tbh.

    The one part of the buff they planned was op there are multiple videos showing what was happening, they are still getting two out of the three buffs being tested.

    If you bought something to to it being on the ptb well what can I say, nothing on the ptb is ever guaranteed so its a lesson learned.
    I knew someone was going to comment about me whining, but I couldn't figure out how to post it differently. I know it seems kind of hypocritical of me, but I wasn't happy after finding out they weren't going through with that buff. I just don't see what else they can do to his power that will make him viable without reworking his entire power. (Sigh) This really sucks. :(
  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,296
    I knew someone was going to comment about me whining, but I couldn't figure out how to post it differently. I know it seems kind of hypocritical of me, but I wasn't happy after finding out they weren't going through with that buff. I just don't see what else they can do to his power that will make him viable without reworking his entire power. (Sigh) This really sucks. :(
    It's understandable they just aren't a great designed killer, the power they weild is tetering on an edge and has the potential to be really ok or really weak.

    The devs with this one have made a killer which simply isn't fun to play with or versus for the most part and going on how they work I highly doubt they will realise this and rework them or change the power they have.

    I can't stand legion as they are just a boring killer, its the first dlc I have no interest in ever purchasing.

    Imo Legion makes the game even harder to balance now as they break the game, they have no counter play making the game tedious and just not fun.
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532

    I still am doing very, very well with him. 
  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2019
    Mushwin said:

    if you can do a better job, go make your own game because i am fed up of threads been a little bitches thread

    So nobody should post how upset they are at the devs making yet again another killer that sucks. So we should paint it that they did an outstanding job with all the killers because they are all well balanced and never give negative feedback. That way they can continue to make ######### killers in the coming years and passing it out as "fun". Give me a break. Ok devs, you did an outstanding job with the legion, I mean his/her inability to actually down someone is sooo much fun. Game breaking really, so I hope you continue to make killers ,oh I am sorry let me rephrase that "kindhearted thugs" that leave you once they injure you, in the coming years so I can continue to have "fun". How's that? Was that better for you Mushwin.
    Post edited by Ray_Penber on
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @Ray_Penber said:
    Mushwin said:

    if you can do a better job, go make your own game because i am fed up of threads been a little bitches thread

    So nobody should post how upset they are at the devs making yet again another killer that sucks. So we should paint it that they did an outstanding job with all the killers because they are all well balanced and never give negative feedback. That way they can continue to make ######### killers in the coming years and passing it out as "fun". Give me a break. Ok devs, you did an outstanding job with the legion,  I mean his/her inability to actually down someone is sooo much fun. Game breaking really, so I hope you continue to make killers ,oh I am sorry let me rephrase that "kindhearted thugs" that leave you once they injure you, in the coming years so I can continue to have "fun". How's that? Was that better for you Mushwin.

    No but put it another way, people can give an insight, tell the devs on such, but dont ######### about...if they keep making ######### killers....then...smiles go play another game if you keep on whining about it....people can inquire about things, post what they think could help..but uh smiles keep making ######### killers? how about you try and make your own and enjoy the constant bs and negativity people post...thumbs up

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    i do like kind hearted thugs....they make me feel fuzzy....but if you are but thurt of my post....then go play another game and stop moaning about the killers.... :)

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    You are still playing the game....smiles must be pretty good job so far or why still play it?

  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2019
    Mushwin said:

    i do like kind hearted thugs....they make me feel fuzzy....but if you are but thurt of my post....then go play another game and stop moaning about the killers.... :)

    Just so you know it's "butt hurt". Try proofreading after typing a post because mistakes are made. Not trying to be a dick in this post, just saying.
  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
    Mushwin said:

    You are still playing the game....smiles must be pretty good job so far or why still play it?

    Well, that is because I have other killers that I like playing (Michael Myers) that are not bad killers.
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    well that is fine....some killers i am bad on, i am sooo not good but i dont come on and diss the killers

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606
    edited January 2019

    @Ray_Penber said:
    Mushwin said:

    i do like kind hearted thugs....they make me feel fuzzy....but if you are but thurt of my post....then go play another game and stop moaning about the killers.... :)

    Just so you know it's "butt hurt". Try proofreading after typing a post because mistakes are made. Not trying to be a dick in this post, just saying.

    Your first post was of you been a dick, what is your excuse?

  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94

    Legion on the power scale (5 max points for each category)

    Tracking survivors: 4
    Dealing with pallets: 4
    Dealing with windows: 4
    Dealing with loops in general: 2
    Chasing a survivor with no obstacles: 3
    Map pressure: 3
    End Game potential: 1
    Getting bloodpoints: 5

    Downing survivors (without Frank's): 0
    Downing survivors (with Frank's): 5

    Total: 31/45 without Frank's and 36/45 with Frank's

    For some reason, Legion does really well in knowing where survivors are and hitting them, but he is a bad killer due to his lack of ability to down with his base ability.

    He's an unfun killer, and the only thing that prevents him from being exceedingly powerful and game breaking is his inability to down. What Legion does is take every part of the game other than the chase and nullify it.

    I think tracking should be a 1 or 0 because he can't see scratch marks with his power.
  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
    I knew someone was going to comment about me whining, but I couldn't figure out how to post it differently. I know it seems kind of hypocritical of me, but I wasn't happy after finding out they weren't going through with that buff. I just don't see what else they can do to his power that will make him viable without reworking his entire power. (Sigh) This really sucks. :(
    It's understandable they just aren't a great designed killer, the power they weild is tetering on an edge and has the potential to be really ok or really weak.

    The devs with this one have made a killer which simply isn't fun to play with or versus for the most part and going on how they work I highly doubt they will realise this and rework them or change the power they have.

    I can't stand legion as they are just a boring killer, its the first dlc I have no interest in ever purchasing.

    Imo Legion makes the game even harder to balance now as they break the game, they have no counter play making the game tedious and just not fun.
    Possibly what they could do is just rework Franks mix tape into something else and make it to where Frenzy downs you in 3 hits instead of 4. I don't know, is that too op? What are your thoughts.
  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    You can't compare Micheal and Legion. Micheal at least has counter play to pallets and windows. His power is los so you can block yourself from seeing Myers. Legion has very little counterplay. The only one is stunning legion with pallets.

  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94
    Mushwin said:

    @Ray_Penber said:
    Mushwin said:

    i do like kind hearted thugs....they make me feel fuzzy....but if you are but thurt of my post....then go play another game and stop moaning about the killers.... :)

    Just so you know it's "butt hurt". Try proofreading after typing a post because mistakes are made. Not trying to be a dick in this post, just saying.

    Your first post was of you been a dick, what is your excuse?

    Well, I don't know if you have ever been mad or upset before after finding out about something you didn't like. I have calmed down now and realize my post was dickish. However, I can't change it now.
  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,296
    edited January 2019
    Possibly what they could do is just rework Franks mix tape into something else and make it to where Frenzy downs you in 3 hits instead of 4. I don't know, is that too op? What are your thoughts.
    It still wouldn't make it fun, fun is what games are about and the thing with legion is they sap the fun from the game, there us no need to hunt as he gets shown the way, no need to mind game as I can use what survivors have for counterplay and each time I log on to play survivor and I see them I just want to play another game and end up doing so.

    Tbh I personally do not have a clue how to make them fun and right now id prefer them to go back to the drawing board and rethink a whole new power.
    Post edited by twistedmonkey on
  • ForeheadSurviors
    ForeheadSurviors Member Posts: 154
    Mushwin said:

    if you can do a better job, go make your own game because i am fed up of threads been a little bitches thread

    This is like going to a restaurant and saying how bad the food is then someone comes and say “ If you dont like the food open up your own restaurant and cook for yourself” 
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @Ray_Penber said:
    Mushwin said:

    @Ray_Penber said:

    Mushwin said:

    i do like kind hearted thugs....they make me feel fuzzy....but if you are but thurt of my post....then go play another game and stop moaning about the killers.... :)
    

    Just so you know it's "butt hurt". Try proofreading after typing a post because mistakes are made. Not trying to be a dick in this post, just saying.

    Your first post was of you been a dick, what is your excuse?

    Well, I don't know if you have ever been mad or upset before after finding out about something you didn't like. I have calmed down now and realize my post was dickish. However, I can't change it now.

    Have never been mad or upset smiles we suggest things....but no need to be a prawn over things

  • Ray_Penber
    Ray_Penber Member Posts: 94

    Have never been mad or upset smiles we suggest things....but no need to be a prawn over things

    You really aren't going to stop until I apologize are you? I wasn't wrong in what I said, however I was wrong in how I presented it. Something I regret now since I know they work hard and try to bring out good killers. I was just upset because after I saw that buff during the ptb I got excited. Then in their stream they said they weren't going to do it. I got mad and posted my above comment out of anger. It's not like no one else has ever not had that happen to them. I have learned from this experience never to get my hopes up with killer buffs.
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,606

    @Ray_Penber said:
    Have never been mad or upset smiles we suggest things....but no need to be a prawn over things

    You really aren't going to stop until I apologize are you? I wasn't wrong in what I said, however I was wrong in how I presented it. Something I regret now since I know they work hard and try to bring out good killers. I was just upset because after I saw that buff during the ptb I got excited. Then in their stream they said they weren't going to do it. I got mad and posted my above comment out of anger. It's not like no one else has ever not had that happen to them. I have learned from this experience never to get my hopes up with killer buffs.

    i understand....but no i aren't going to make you say sorry....but i do accept cookies ^^ and i have said things out of anger etc too...it's cool

  • Legion_Is_Best
    Legion_Is_Best Member Posts: 53

    Well this is awkward