I don't get the artist. Like at all...
She's cool. But man trying to actually snipe with her is near impossible. I just don't get it. I set my snipes up and it's just to easy for the survivors to avoid it.
And then the other issue is presetting at a loop or wall and then you have to guess when they run through that small window of vulnerability...
In all my matches with her I just can't seem to snipe. Seems to easy to avoid. Feels like its not worth it. Takes to much time to pull off and moat survivors just run away from the tile.
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Sniping isn’t meant to be easy. Get better at predicting survivor movement.
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At the jungle gyms tho, it's taking a ahot in the dark nore than predicting. You have to guess when they are in the path bc you can't see them. I guess I'm all ears would be good with her.
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for sniping you should use the addon that extends the duration of crows debuff and the one that decreases your cooldown when you launch the crow
survivors can see where you are aiming with the crows
loop placement is honestly fairly simple, you can't really mess up much with it, but you can time the launch poorly, so that the survivor runs into the hitbox before launch and only gets the debuff
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Snipin's a good job mate. Challenging work. Out of doors. Guarantee you'll not go hungry. 'Cause at the end of the day as long as there are two people left on the map. You're gonna want them dead.
You've just gotta get out your kukri and smack'em in melee. Crows are good for marking your target but beyond that, be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
Sometimes in a loop a good hip shot does just as well in the outback. It's your caw at the end of the day.
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Sniping is easy. Sniping them after crows are on them? Eh...
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Sniping with her is a little different than Huntress or Deathslinger. There's a big delay between setup and fire, so you need to aim for where the survivor's going to be in about a second and a half - and because there's that much reaction time, you need to set up your shots when either the survivor isn't expecting them, or when they don't really have an option to be anywhere else (either they're stuck in a narrow channel, animation locked, or all of their other options will also lead to death.)
If you're in an open field and the survivor is watching you, that's going to be impossible, but you can use the birds' trajectories to box them into a dead zone. You should also always swarm with one bird and then fan out with three (unless you can guarantee the shot with less), covering potential angles they'll go, to have the greatest chance of getting the follow-up hit. And sniping someone from far away actually isn't hard if they run in a straight line and you see which way they're running with the birds, which sounds dumb but a surprising number of people do. It's not reliable, but it's not impossible either.
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I feel liek the Artist is over-tuned to be just barely useless. Like, if her crows lasted 2 more seconds; she'd have power. But it feels like they are timed to be just at the lower edge of 'too short to hit anyone twice'.
Like, she just feels like she was carefully timed and balanced to just barely suck. Like a claw game; it LOOKS like you can win, but you really can't. Her power is the same way; you feel like, every time you use it, you need to be just a little faster. But her power was designed to not be fast enough. 🙃
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Uhhh. Thick tar + festering carrion gives the artist a pretty decent timeframe to work in? You can easily do 1 crow into a 2 crow blast with a few seconds left over before the survivor can get them off.
All her other addons are inferior because of it but they are mostly garbage anyways.
But artist in general is heavily overrated. Holding W works just as well against her as any other non-mobile 115 killer. She is also pretty susceptible to flashlights and SWFs, who can stop her from setting up crows at a loop. Not to mention 0 hook defense.
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So, basically, her power sucks unless you have add-ons. Seems to be a trend for Killers; make them weak, and use add-ons to make them 'okay'.
Don't have the add-ons? Either because you just bought them, or the bloodweb did not pay out? Have fun having a weak power.
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She's easily one of the coolest killers. They put a ton of attention to detail with her. I just wish I could get those crows down. Its easier to play nurse for ke than her lmao
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I struggled a lot with her too at start but i'm quite enjoying her now.
I can pull off some snipes (the yellow addon that increases the time crows are viseble helps a lot) but her power is more of a zoning tool.
Most of your hits are going to be m1 hits cause the survivors had to dodge your crows
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It's a brown addon and a yellow addon. I make like 100k a game when I am farming as killer. It's not really a big deal; I don't think I ever play any killer without addons at any time.
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Sniping from afar relies more on the survivor messing up than your actual skill. Survivors can see the auras of the crows being put down and launched, so there's no reason for them not to avoid them, so don't feel bad about it. It's kind of like getting sniped by a Huntress after she hooks someone when 90% of Huntress players run BBQ.
At loops good survivors will just give you the M1 because the cooldown is longer than getting hit by a crow, so again, don't be bothered by it. That's more of a bad design thing.
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Just to clarify, are you having trouble getting long range information by shooting crows at generators or other places you think survivors might be, or are you specifically trying to fire two crows in a row at the same location hoping to damage someone from long distance? Because the former is a basic staple of her ability, the latter is more like a gimmick play you probably shouldn’t be relying on.
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Is Artist actually weak? She has better anti-loop than Doctor and about equal detection/interruption (worse at short range, but better at long range.) Her ability to check gens and totems and push people off them at a distance is really nice, even if she lacks mobility. She's like Wraith in that she wastes very little time locating people. She can just fall into the trap of thinking she's making progress in a chase when she isn't by using her power incorrectly. (Seriously, one bird into three is the magic formula. Use more birds for the first hit, or try to go for shots in spots where survivors can dodge in any direction, and you're going to fail.)
I also think she's got quite a few decent green and purple addons in addition to Festering Carrion. Exhaustion's always nice, Mangled is always nice, and the one that causes Oblivious on swarmed is absolutely fantastic. So is the one that spreads birds to nearby players. Her spread isn't the best, but it isn't the worst either.
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Fun little knowhow for others that lije to try Artist.
To damage a survivor with one volley of crows you need to walk forward for about 6 seconds after placing your first crow before placing your second.
Pretty niche but satisfying if you pull it off
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The whole problem with sniping as artist is that any half decent survivor with crows on their head will just leap into a closet to immediately dispell them negating your whole attack. I wish I was better at her but it just feels like you're setting up galaxy brain tier crow placements to really get the best value out of them otherwise you're just spending your time going from loop to loop m1'ing people.
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It'll take a while, but I'm now lethal with my snipes.
When you first start, hit a single bird to swarm and then fire 3 like a shotgun, trying to lead your target.
As you get better, you'll just need 2. Then 1.
A few other tricks:
- If you know where a survivor is, line up 2 birds with a decent gap between then (about 10m) and you can double tap them for an injure, or even a down. You can do this on hooks too, but that's so dirty.
- People will often panic and leave gens when you bird them. This tends to cause a lot of 'mini pops', which are incredible.
- If you know someone is going to drop a pallet - put down a bird and fire it immediately. If you time it right, you'll hit them the second they drop the pallet and injure them. Get so many downs this way.
- Set up birds to zone people away from windows by threatening to damage them.
- Birds will sometimes fly up slopes, but never down.
- You can also use your birds to zone people towards unsafe areas. People will often turn away to avoid the birds, use this to your advantage.
- BBQ is a solid perk on her, hock birds at the auras.
- STBFL is actually decent on Artist, just bird the obsession.
- Flashlights are a huge threat to you, a single flick dispels birds. If you see 3-4 flashes, bring Franklins.
Weak? No.
She struggles sometimes though. Maps with a lot of elevation changes make her power kind of worthless. Flashlights mean you don't really have a power if survivors don't want you to.
Her addons are...gah. The fact that her second best addon is a brown says a lot.
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The fact that her second best addon is a brown says a lot.
Damn, we have seen what happens to good brown addon from Twins...
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Thanks, these are very helpfull
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I'm astonished that she hasn't been nerfed yet.
She isn't quite powerful enough to break the trinity of Huntress, Blight and Nurse - but she's actually not far off. If her addons were a smidge better, she'd be perfect - but having two of the worst iris in the game on a killer that isn't Freddy or PH...yeah that sucks.
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It makes no sense to nerf her though.
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I don't think Artist is really an easy killer, so there is chance she might be fine, but you never know with BHVR.
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It would be nice if you hit crows over X distance if it extended the time it took to dispel them. To incentivize high skill gameplay of the long distance sniping, which in turn makes each down cost 4 crows. Seems like a fair trade to me.
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I actually really enjoy the Severed hands and Charcoal stick add-on combo, Seeing as i use one crow to swarm anyway and 2 or 3 to get the injury in time. Severed hands is deadly and punishes stacking on gens, whereas charcoal stick is very useful in chases and shooting at gen's, 0.5 seconds is not enough time for people to notice you summoned a crow before it turns invisble.
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Well it's very simple. You don't snipe with Artist. You place your Nemesis down at the pallet and then launch it when Survivors get near it.
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