Uh oh, the boil over change made it live

I'm more concerned with the Buckle Up change. That thing is officially busted.

I'm not too worried about boil over tbh.

If i see they have it and are in a place i can't hook them i'm just changing my strategy to slug all survivors instead of hooking them.

That's an issue with a map, not with the perk.

I understand that people are afraid the perk will be abused, however if that's the case it's going to be easier to see this kind of results on a bigger scale than the PTB.

Again, I'm not saying you are wrong or that it cannot be an issue whatsoever, I'm just trying to see the thought process behind it.

I assume that if they find necessary to deactivate the perk, they will do it.

I partially get that, but then I don't understand why they didn't fix the map. It's been a problem since release and now it's being exacerbated even though this problem was already known. I just still do not understand the thought process at all why they would release something to live that they knew has at least one gaping abuse case, even if I understand that they want to test how impactful Boil Over is everywhere else and that they can't really take the forum feedback at face value when it's so prone to hyperbole. Like... why not killswitch RPD the same way a map gets killswitched if there's a door you can't walk through or an unsnuffable boon? Or at the very least, killswitch RPD offerings?

As for Boil Over and a wider sample - I do understand that, but at the same time I'm not sure how they'll actually see these results from the data unless one of the stats they're tracking is match time. Or DC rates. If I'm a killer and I get a troll squad with this perk - I'll get a 4k if everyone is doing it, because none of them are doing their objective and I'll attrition them eventually, it'll just take me ages because they're picking themselves up or they need to run out of resources to sabo/bodyblock. And you'll get a regular-ish match result if there's a few people doing it and the others are doing gens - either the killer has to commit to slugging and re-downing the trolls if they have something like No Mither, or the killer lets them go to maintain pressure and they keep running to the spot every time they get chased, so they escape or die to endgame collapse, and the other players also escape or die as per usual.

It's not something I expect to have a high escape rate. If anything, I expect the opposite. But I expect a lot of bleedouts, a lot of killer DCs, a lot of mysterious 'crashes' whenever anyone uses certain map offerings, and a metric ton of salt dumped on the forums in the next few days.

I appreciate you trying to shed some light on this' I'm just really dreading playing the next few days and irritated because this seemed so preventable. And I was looking forward to the event and the tome.

Unbreakable is a single use.

For soul guard they need to hope i have a hex.

For no mither they have to run no mither

Concerningly less ppl as usually took part on the PTB. So there was probably not such a great monitoring as expected. But besides that, BHVR most likely ignored criticism and ideas anyways about PTBs.

This. I'm calling it now; we're going to see a wave of troll games in the week following the update, and then it'll become something you'd be exceptionally unlucky to encounter once in a month.

You'd be surprised how common No Mither is in troll builds. The point isn't to last, it's to delay the bleedout process as long as possible. That's often paired with Unbreakable for faster pickup speed and/or Soul Guard for some immunity while up.

Exponential's also an option. It has huge coverage in RPD and can be very far from the problem area in real distance, and only one of the players needs to bring it.