Why does Sadako get a lower TR but pig lost hers cause they wanted to make her like other 4.6's?
Like, the orginal reason pig lsot her lower TR was because they wanted her to be like the other 4/6 M/S killers as they wanted to standardize it with other killers.
I'm just curios what the reasoning is behind it, espcailly because both are stealth killers are they not?
Also not to mention Freddy also used to have it lower and with her vislibty being made better, why not change Freddy?
It just seems quite odd to me they nerfed pig for one thing then turn around and change it on another killer later on
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Its odd they nerf Pig? Since when?
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This was like a couple weeks after Pig's release tbf it was a while ago
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Bhvr nerfing pig is to be expected.
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I think theyre starting to stray away from the generic 110%/24m and 115%/32m.
Pig getting her TR increased was when they were still standardizing everything
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Well, maybe they will go back on that. It would be a nice way to buff some weaker killers if they had different TR's. Like all stealth killers get lower TRs because they are stealth killers for instnace.
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Secondary objectives are difficult for newer survivors so killers who us them as part of their power show as OP in the "data" they collect. BHVR hates noob stomping so killers with that ability get the nerf. Pig, Pinhead, Freddy.
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The thing is she isn't fully a stealth Killer when she is demanafisted she has a "lullaby" and she also didn't go completely invisible as well. Her "flickering" can be seen 25m away and that when the lullaby kicks in as well.
Ms Piggy loses all her TR when she crouches and give no indication that she is approaching except with Spine Chill. Also don't forget she can also initiate a charge from stealth.
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She also moves slower during her stealth and also can't attack right out of it either. Not to mention pig has alot of RNG in her kit and also lacks a good chase power.
Sadako is a stealth killer yes.
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Because Pig is now outdated killer design, which is very unfortunate
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Again it goes back to completely losing the TR. None of the stealth killers, besides Myers but he is a different kind of stealth, can attack while stealthed. Sadoko is fully invisible and didn't lose her TR while "stealthed".
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She is still a stealth killer. Weather or not she has a lullbay is besides the point.
Wraith has a huge audio cue when he stealths, does that mean hes not a stealth killer?
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The TR change came with patch 2.5, almost a full year after Pig was released. This was also when Pig got her crouching speed buff, and her TR fade came in and out faster, fulfilling the 2 buffs 1 nerf meme.
As much as I whinge about the TR nerf, it wasn't game breaking and the entire patch was way-way more of a buff. But it just made her slower on approaching survivors on gens IMO. Crouching immediately as whispers lights up, Instead of being able to take a few steps forward and then crouching. You can still get it back with M&A, but perk slot.
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The point im making is the reasoning behind the TR nerf was to standarddize all 4.6 killers to have the same TR, then a bit later Sadako comes around and just ignores that. Its werid to me
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To be fair that "a bit" is like 3 years. A lot can change in that time.
Plus slinger did it first, 110 killer with 32m terror radius.
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Wasn't pig's TR 28 meters? So it was neither 24 nor 32, and it just got standardized
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I forgot Slinger had a 34 meter TR, fair point. Still, it would be nice if they updated older killers using this new model of differnt TR's
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Yea when he stealths there is a audio cue but not WHILE he is stealthed and moving around, and her lullaby isn't besides the point because it's always going on while she is demanafisted so survivors know when she is around, just at a shorter range than when she is manafisted.
If you want to compare her to other stealth Killers she is more like Spirit in the audio cues, just with a flicker than a full stealth. Her speed is to also make up for how weaker her base kit is. TVs are not in really good spots to be used as a chase mechanic and they likely chance to catch a Survivor unaware is less likely.
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Give Pig's 28 metres TR back to her, BHVR.
There is no reason not to.
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34 and not 32?
Man, old Freddy. Shame he's just a manlet now.
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Would Demogorgon count as a "stealth" killer? Cause BHVR seem to try and push that playstyle on him with a few of its add one.
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He wouldn't be if the devs listened to me 👀
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idk man they're confusing I guess
Me want monitor and abuse for the 20m terror radius pig.
Or they give her a 40m radius because it's time to nerf her again.
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Are we really forgetting Ghostface exists
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Pig's TR used to be 28 meters. It was the most unique TR of all time
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Who is this ghost you speak of?
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If Pig’s was reverted to 28 I wouldn’t mind.
I also think ghostface’s should be 24 but he‘s getting changes anyways.
The change to sadako does show they’re willing to break the standard though, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they do it more in the future. They kinda did it with deathslinger already but that was because he was a ranged killer with no lullaby.
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Nerf pig she's too op. (Sarcasm)
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Give Death Slingers old TR back!
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Because Sadako is the superior waifu.
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Because that was like 5 years ago and the way they make decisions and try to balance things isn't exactly the same as it used to be?
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I don't know what goes through their heads. Every killer that's had a 24m terror radius at one point or another has been justified in having it. There are killers that at some points have no terror radius, so what's the point in nerfing others to having 32m of warning time for the survivors?
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For a second I missed the "32 meters in frenzy," and I was all "woAH, HEY, HOLD UP YOU ABSOLUTE PSYCHOPATH" heheheh
Why 24 instead of 28? I feel like that was an excellent point to have her be somewhat stealthy while not having the "I'm not in chase yet?" effect that Huntress can have (which would become a problem with her traps)
Interesting idea, but why not just play with M&A if you want a smaller TR? I hate to say this, but a potential 16 meter TR on a killer with no lullaby was kind of absolutely nuts.
Maybe they're talking about that one movie, with the guy in the hockey mask? It kind of looks like a ghost, I guess. Is he in this game?
We know, boss--believe me, we know.
Freddy would still be a manlet, though, just astrongone.0 -
Iirc isn’t the original Amanda TR like 28 meters?
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They are just bad at balancing things.
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I second this. Really wanna use m&a on her lol
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Peole romanticise old freddy but i assure you as a person who mained him pre rework hes better off now. Espicially since hit and run would be even worse due to the current meta. Let me remind you old freddy literally waiting for dream transition as survivours finish the last gen was normal freddy gameplay.
There was nothing redeemable about old freddy. New freddy is still not interesting but if you forced me to choose between one or the other. New freddy at least functions. The dream transition needed to die.
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I see your point and raise you PTB Freddy. Because frankly, the "redeeming quality" of old Freddy is that he had an interesting dynamic rather than "let me put things on the ground that will slow you down sometimes wait please stop leaving this loop for the one next to it"
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Because that was years ago and design philosophy changes over years. It is inconsistent now and they SHOULD reduce her TR now.
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Nah....just Ghostface is just....not scary lol
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Being scary or not doesn't change the fact he can attack out of his stealth.
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Yea true...
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