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Ukraine Charm.
Im from EU and i think we all know what's happening in Ukraine atm.
We already have a flag charm (pride) so maybe we can have a Ukraine flag charm too to show our sympathy to Ukraine. I always wanted flag charms for every country so maybe this is the right moment to add them.
Please let me know what you think about this.
( I don't mean this in a hateful way towards Russia or anything like that and I know that many of them also support Ukraine and also didn't ask for this. I just think this could be a really nice way to show our empathy and love towards Ukraine.)💙💛
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I really like this idea :)
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Speaking only for myself here:
I work in news, KEEP THAT ######### OUT OF MY ESCAPISM!
Thank you :3 <3
Outside of politics, flags as hook charms, not a bad idea. I wouldn't care, but a lot of people might :D
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id like that charm
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Although i feel sorry for Ukraine, i disagree. Why? Because it can create so much problems.
We have already so much toxicity in DbD. And i can see some Russian players are attacking to people who using this charm or people who using this charm can claim someone camped them because of charm.
So we really don't need more problems. We can pray for Ukranians, we can pray for World Peace and that's better.
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Yeah, i don't think it's ever going to happen but it would be a sign of love and support.😣 I saw a game dev on steam show their support and I think it would be great if this was added to DBD.
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Or better off, create charms for all countries. Then people can decide what they want to wear if they want to wear, right?
Honestly I'm kinda surprised country flag charms aren't there yet.
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I think it's worth being made very clear right now that the vast majority of the Russian population did not want this war and have been protesting it at risk of their own lives. This isn't a decision made by the entirety of Russia but by a dictator and some like-minded individuals, nothing more.
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Be careful not to get political about this, man.
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I understand what you are saying but i don't think toxicity should stop this. I know people get camped because they use the pride charm and i don't think that should stop anyone from using it.
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Have to agree with this.
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I know that, i have Russian friends who don't wanna war or don't like Putin. But i also know DbD community. This will be problem. BHVR removed Bubba masks for racists issues. If they do that, i can see some bad people are abusing it.
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Yes, exactly. I would love to see the flags of all countries to be in DBD as a charm. Just make them the same way the pride charm looks.
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Tbf there's being political and then there's just stating the facts of the case. Regardless of someone's view on politics and regardless of someone's view on exactly what has happened, it can't really be argued this isn't the case, and all I've done is present the facts.
Now if I were to get political everyone should probably panic because me and politics go together about as well as a house on fire.
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I don’t think that’s a good idea.
Im going to go off on a little tangent. The one thing I’m happy about with BHVR is that they know to stay the ######### away from politics. I remember when Covid started and people wanted face masks added as a cosmetic to bring awareness to Covid and They said no. When the riots happened in the summer of 2020 BHVR backed down and didn’t say or add anything.
the only thing they added was the pride charm flag. That I don’t mind. I don’t hate the LGBTQ community there all nice people. I hate it when some game and commercials shoves it into our face saying “look we have gay people were cool” an example is the game awards they shoved it into the show. It’s like dude I’m here to watch games not promote People who are the same sex who love each other.
Adding that flag would be a bad idea cause Toxic ######### will tunnel and Bully people with the charm. We don’t want another leatherface situation.
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Can we not bring any of that into dbd please? Some of us use this game to escape that #########
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The biggest issue I see is everyone knows what's happening isnt good at all and alot of people are suffering.
However asking for stuff like this can come across as you using what's going on to get free stuff and some others would use it to get attention/likes.
No doubt what is happening is bad, and I'm sure you have good intentions but you have to think of all the angles that can happen. If BHVR did this, while it's nice I'm sure theres many other world issues that would feel left out.
Theres alot of bad in the world, if anything we should show support to all of them but the amount of things out there itd be hard for BHVR so I get why companies stay out of it
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What I mean is just be careful what you say. You exhausted all your temp bans and a single mistake and we lose you.
And ngl I REALLY don't want to see that happen. Who else would waste time to write summaries of QnAs and updates?
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Will we get a flag for when Libya was bombed, or Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Palestine or Sudan, or Syria? When muslims are killed do you wave flags in video games in support? Are there sanctions when muslim children are bombed from drones? Or does international conflict only matter when there is money at stake? Is there only shows of empathy when it is popular or does empathy only show up when people are afraid that they are next? Are the flags of all countries allowed or only countries recognized by political factions? Is Taiwans flag valid or does it not exist because the chinese government says they are invalid?
Or maybe...we should just play video games and leave the real world outside?
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Probably nobody and I kinda wanna see that and watch things collapse.
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Terrible, terrible idea.
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I would love to see flag charms of all countries tbh. I understand that BHVR might not just want to release a charm of one flag but that's why I think it's the right time to add all flags to dbd. I would love to have the flag of my own country in dbd too! :D
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I can already imagine people going into steam profiles commenting
"-rep ukraine flag"
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Flags for evey country would atleast be fair. Would like to know the nationality of my teammates/opposition
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Exactly, I would love to see all country flags to be added one day. I would 100% use the flag of my own country as well.
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You can remove comments and also disable them. You can also just set your profile to private so you never have stupid comments under your profile. People put -reps for the most stupid reasons and that's why i think profile comments should just be removed tbh.
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haha,i dont take it seriously,its just funny to see that people care about something on a pixel
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It's just sad some people take time to put hate under someone's profile. I have mine disabled, I don't need salty comments from these kids. xD
I don't take any salt, toxicity or hate serious tho. Sometimes the endgamechat can be hilarious too.😅
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Aren't there alot of players from Russia. I know it's a nice idea but BHVR is a company and I don't know if they can afford to lose those.
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I don't agree with Putin's actions buy i understand why he is doing it.
The U.S/U.K is hardly beacons of morality on these issues, The U.S in particular have given us wonderful chaps Like Saddam, Pinochet and Noriega.
Cuba is still suffering sanctions from the U.S 70 years later, why? Because the U.S views/viewed them as a threat i. the Munroe doctrine.
To think Russia is going to accept a hostile alliance at their borders is just laughable.
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I'd rather BHVR did something more meaningful than add a token flag, like make a Ukraine/Slavic theme cosmetic but sell it and all proceeds go to Ukraine refugees/aid. Most people don't want to think about the situation. If they're going to do something, then make it count.
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I think some of you might not know, but Ukrainian nazis and military were killing their own people in Donbass for 8 years, civilians and children, bombing them with military jets and artillery, labeling bombs "all the best we have for Donbass children". They killed many thousands of people, including around 100 children. Even the US government has officially recognized their military "Azov" squad as a neo-Nazi group, they have committed a lot of crimes in Donbass. But western mass media won't show you that. They wear nazi chevrons and even their presidents Poroshenko and Zelensky were wearing them, you can find a lot of pictures on the internet. But I guess killing civilians by Ukrainian army and neonazis in Donbass is ok, right?
If you don't believe me, google Anne-Laure Bonnet, she is one of the few western journalists who have visited Donbass to tell the world about what was going on there.
Ukrainian neonazis have burned down many people alive in 2014 in the Ukrainian city Odessa (google for "Odessa massacre 2014"), because those civilians didn't want to recognize the current Ukrainian neonazi regime, after that those nazis were making selfies with their dead bodies and laughing about them and the government doesn't care, no one was accused. And why would they if their president was wearing a nazi chevron?
After Hitler was defeated most germans said they "didn't know" about brutalities of Hitler's regime and they were so sorry for what they have done. I guess the world didn't learn that lesson.
I don't think adding such a charm to the game is a good idea, just google for pictures of killed civilians, disabled children and destroyed civilian houses by Ukrainian army in Donbass.
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While i wholeheartedly feel devastated by whats going on in the Ukraine we should not draw any more politics after they removed blackface bubba. Games are an escapism from the real world issues and when those real world problems follow you into the game then so to do people who will make sure you understand their pov is the only way forward and they dont care if your having a good time or not.
Silence is often the loudest voice and the opposite is also true as the loudest are usually the weakest minds. Politics has its platform and videogames is not one of them. Why do you think players wearing the rainbow often get hacked in this game because their are people out there sending a msg to them and if you draw in more charms to cause division it will only increase the msg of the haters not just the hated.
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Im most likely not going to reply to any replies to this comment that focus on this first paragraph as this is a DBD forum and I do not want to get into a politcial debate here but there seems to be a bit of a sentiment here that most russians support the war which at least of the ones I know(mostly from DBD) isn't the case at all. I am in no way defending Russia as a nations actions but those decisions were mainly made by the sham of a goverment over there and does not accurately reflect the Russian population as a whole and assuming BHVR would lose all their Russian players or that Russian players would automatically tunnel people wearing a Ukraine charm is just plain racism. As with anything there will definetly be some Russian players who do these things (Just as I can guarantee some immature 14 year olds from other countries who thinks its cool and edgy would support Russia's actions and tunnel anyone with a Ukraine flag and proceed to say racist things about Ukraine in the end game chat) but assuming it as something most Russians would do it just blatant racism. But who knows maybe I just managed to find every Russian who dislikes the attack on Ukraine on my steam friends list through DBD and Payday and have a skewed view.
On the topic of adding a Ukranian flag charm I think it is a bit pointless unless its sold for money as raising awareness wont do very much because you have to be living under a massive rock to not know about the situation happening there. Imo if BHVR is doing something (which they really should) is make some cosmetics that act as donations. EG you buy a 5 quid blue and yellow recolor of some outfit and BHVR donates 5 quid. Or make a portion of all cosmetics purchases lets say 20% for arguement sake you buy a 5 quid cosmetics BHVR donates 1 quid to a charity for the Ukrainian crisis.
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Whilst I understand the sentiment behind this post, I'm going to close it here. Political discussions have no place on our platforms...this forum is open for all players/users.
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