BBQ Basekit?
Please don't destroy me in the comments. With killer the way it is at the moment, would BBQ as basekit be the worst thing in the world? Keeps the killer incentive with BP & allows for 4 other game helping perks.
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There are quite a few mechanics that should really be basekit at this point. Unfortunately I doubt the devs have any plans to make them a reality. Even the BT plans will probably go down the toilet.
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I like it. I only run BBQ for the points anyways, so even if they just kept that and did away with the aura reading I'd be happy.
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Yeah same, 2 birds with one stone then
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Sorry, to get double BP you have to ditch one of your precious Slowdown-Perks. You cant have both.
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Maybe... but that won't stop players whom have made the decision to Camp and Tunnel right from the start
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No. It would literally just reward tunnelers and campers at minimum 25% more bp lol.
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Why is it always gotta be us vs them lol, I play both quite frequently. Only really play Killer for BP and go for chases.
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True I guess
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I think something like this would be a good idea to encourage killers not to stay around the hook. I understand that was the purpose of BBQ, but the killer has to have the perk and run it for it to be affective. If the devs are really considering Kindred and BT to be basekit for survivors, I hope they are also thinking about killer.
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Tell us you're a survivor main without telling us you're a survivor main.
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I play both sides, but I think, Killers can invest a Perk Slot for getting so many BPs, which also allow them to use better Add Ons.
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Killers run BBQ because the grind sucks, you know it, we all know it. Forcing people to use 3 perks just to alleviate the insane grind is just a ridiculous idea, we can instead just nerf problematic add-ons if they ever become to oppressive.
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And so the side, which already gets 30-50% more BPs at base AND has easier access to double BPs should get this as Base so that they can run 4 Perks instead? Yeah...
If you want to get more BPs, run BBQ. If you think you need other Perks more, run those and dont get double BPs.
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Then buff survivor BP? If you're saying that the game is killer biased then prepare to get laughed out the door, I play far more solo queue than killer and I still haven't changed mind on which side is stronger: It's just a matter of which side plays dirtier, you should know this, you've been playing this game for 3 years at the very least.
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I did not say that the game is killer-sided, I said that Killers get more BPs than Survivors.
Yikes³
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Why are you so smug man? I said "if you are saying that the game is killer biased".
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No, dear god no. 'everyone uses it, its one of the most popular perks, so just give it to us for free'
Lemme translate that to survivor. 'everyone uses dead hard, lets just make it a base part of the survivor kit'
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BBQ doesn't extend a loop possibly 60+ seconds
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No, the problem of the grind affects everyone and it should be addressed in a way that doesn't inherently favor one "side" (especially when they already gain a lot more bps)
Now though, will they address the grind? Soon™ (same answer since two years)
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It really isn't fair. BBQ is amazing on certain killers eg. Huntress, Artist, Nurse, even some others (basically ranged or high mobility) and then not so great on other killers like Hag, Trapper etc. who are territorial and can't get around the map as well.
Aside from being a flat buff to all killers, it would make good killers even better and not do much for lower power killers really. The BP would be nice though but BHVR will never just give a strong bp effect like that inherent on either side. I pretty much go in knowing i have to sacrifice a slot on either side if I want to farm as much BP as possible in a match through BBQ or wglf.
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Have you seen the matchmaking leak for incentivising?
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That's one of the things they've been talking about since two years
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Nice stuff are you making up.
As I said, if someone wants to have Double BP, they should invest a Perk-Slot. Survivors have to do the same.
And it just shows how killer-sided this Forum is if the idea is "Hey, lets give the side which already gets more BPs even more BPs!". Not even considering that the grind on the Survivor-Side is even worse than on the Killers side since:
- Survivors get less BPs overall
- Survivors have it harder to get specific things out of the Bloodwebs since they have 3 times as many Items
- Survivors have it harder to gain double BPs (if they dont want to throw the game)
- and last but not least: Survivors have more Perks
The grind has to be reduced for everyone. Not just for the side who has it easier already.
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Rather have a 15 to 20 second base kit corrupt.
Least that way if a survivor spawns next to a gen it has a chance not to pop in first 2 min of a match
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If you think bbq is so popular because of the aura effect you are seriously misinformed. If they removed the bq gain you wouldn't ever see it ran.
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I agree with this, Tremors is literally 10x the perk BBQ is but is non-existent.
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I have a question:
Why do you care how much BP your opponent gets?
How much BP they get is irrelevant to you.
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I think it blocking is a little to short and doesn't it also have a stupid cooldown?
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Only if Kindred becomes basekit too.
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Not an awful shout tbh, just maybe lessen the range slightly
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Lol
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My idea (al ready said in various comment) is that is could be good to make more killer left the hook (even if the facecamp nerfs devs said is better choise), but killer could continue to camp and have more information, also very strong on bullet killers. For bloodpoint issue devs must rework all the system, grind became worse. Also kindread could be basket for compensation, even if I prefer a maybe nerfed Bt and nerfed corrupt (green versions maybe).
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Then I demand that Survivors gain tripple BP by default. With Killers not getting it, because they have BBQ.
I mean, it does not affect you, so you should be alright, eh?
(Saying "it does not affect you" is one of the most lazy reasonings. Sure, many things dont affect me, many things will not affect you. But you can still have an opinion about it)
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I would make the bubble pin point survivor's location like Doctor madness or Rancor if survivors are 40m away from hook. Aura tracking for 4sec can be op on Top tier killers.
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Honestly I find this funny how you tell people to spend money or get lucky to reduce the grind
Instead of you know suggesting that they buff the bp earning for survivors
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The survivor player in me wants this while the killer player in me doesn't
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Great I wouldn't mind this suggestion as it would at least close the gap between the two
My theory is why the gap is so big is to get people to play killer to try and make sure both sides get matches in a reasonable time instead of just the latter getting matches in a reasonable time
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100% bonus bp basekit for everyone.
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Yippee
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Sure, make BT, Decisive and Kindred basekit too though
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MAYBE double bp depending on your game, not saying it isn't easy, just saying it's possible to not get your full stack
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true. but going "No, because the other side has less", is a bit less productive than "yes, but also X for the other side to help them out aswell".
but let's be honest, best way to reduce the grind is just removing perk tiers... too many perks...
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No because aura reading. If you want it basekit for BP gains they should just increase BP gains for everyone - not just one side.
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