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Why People are Blaming Other Side for Their Lose?

People from both sides are doing this.


I lost! How this is possible!!! I did not deserved this lose. I am best gamer on the world. DbD is unfair! Survivors are op. Killers are op! Camping is op! Genrush is op! etc.


Just why? I am not saying DbD is perfectly balanced but i don't think DbD is that bad either. I rarely see people who admit their mistakes and write good messages.

Comments

  • EvilJoshy
    EvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,295

    For once i agree with you. Almost all losses can be traced back to self error. Thats why i like to record my matches and watch them to point out where i screwed up or what i could have done better.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,076

    Yes and no.

    On one hand - it's a very human thing to do, to blame your loss on balance or the other side.

    On the other hand - this game's nature is that a lot of match outcomes are decided before the match even starts. If I pick Nurse, grab the best perks she has and strong addons, then get sent to Midwich against survivors running 'fun' perks, they are going to get shredded. And it's not entirely their fault.

    If I pick Pig, grab 'fun' perks and mediocre addons, then get sent to Eyrie against survivors running fully stacked meta perks - I'm going to get 4outed and teabagged all the way to the exit gates, unless MMR pairs me with survivors significantly worse than me.

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564

    Nah.

    Meta perks are strong for both sides and helps so much, true. And they can make you win.

    But end of the day, you can win without them. As survivor, you can be efficient and finish generators fast. Or as killer you can make good pressure on survivors and win either.

    And plus it was your choice to play with un-meta perks. Nobody told you don't bring your best stuffs.

  • Cybil
    Cybil Member Posts: 1,163
    edited March 2022

    Teammates usually weasel their way into this blame game. I was playing Myers the other day on Gideon Meat Plant and David intentionally sandbagged Michaela in that one room near basement. She ended up eating a tier 3 and gave up on hook.


    (don't worry, I face camped the David later on)

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,076

    Eh...no.

    'If you aren't running x perks/killers you are playing the game wrong' to my mind indicates that balance is seriously squiffy.

    Yes, you can win without them. But if it's substantially easier to win with them, if the delta between 'good' and 'bad' perks is so big, then that probably needs adjustment.

    You are also discounting map choice, which - if I recall the statistics correctly - accounts for something like a 25% difference in match outcomes. That's enormous.

    Can you honestly look me in the eye and say that me playing Blight with his best addons and meta perks against a similarly equipped SWF on Midwich isn't going to be a significantly easier match than, say, Trapper with meme perks on Eyrie?

  • Deferlo
    Deferlo Member Posts: 131

    Entitled dbd player be like:

    mistake.jpg


  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564
    edited March 2022

    I can not. But both killers can win. But this does not mean we should ignore balance issues. My post is not about balance problems. Sometimes RNG can be against you but you still can make this game win.

    I just had today Blight who had "Ruin + Undying + PR + No Way Out" and lost game. And called us baby survivors for Dead Hard. But it was his fault. He chased Dwight so long, he never give up on chase and lost 3 gens. And then game turned easy mode for us. But this is not just killers ofcourse, survivors are also doing this.

  • Voodoo_Thirsty
    Voodoo_Thirsty Member Posts: 522

    Because each role have different interpretations of the situation.

    Killer - I lost? Well, it's 1v4 and if the 1 loses even when it should be compensated for being outnumbered, then this game is unfair.

    Survivor - I lost? Out of 4 survivors this killer chose to kill me first? This game is unfair and my teammates are trash.


    It's the same BS over and over again that happens on the forums and it will stay like this forever, unfortunately.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,076

    Of course. Dunning Kruger is a dominant law of gaming.

    But I'm also saying that sometimes when a killer posts 'yeah, I couldn't really do anything there' in postgame, they aren't entirely wrong.

    For example, I played Onryo yesterday and got sent to Swamp. The 'poglog' spawned in front of the main structure, creating a near-infinite and I was facing a 3man SWF that knew how to run it. There was very little I could do - it's not even a loop combo you can really mindgame. I also didn't have many good perks. I got slaughtered.

    I logged over to Hag, faced the same 3man (welcome to early morning DbD), was sent to DDS and had two of them dead at 4 gens. They didn't play any worse - but I was on a killer with a much better toolkit, had better perks and a less abusive map.

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,738

    Cause people don't want to look at themselves as the cause of losing

    "It worked before... so Killer/Survivor is the problem"

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335

    Self Awareness is apparently hard to come by anymore.

    The anonymity of the internet only makes it worse.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 12,696

    I usually blame myself.

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,956

    Human nature pretty much.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874

    I kept blaming Pig's crappy ambush, so I responded by always bringing Amanda's Letter. ;)

    But in all seriousness, I know I'm not amazing at Killer and I'm complete crap at Survivor. I'll just keep playing Taxi Build Pig and whatever consequences come of it, that's on me.


    Map balance overall IS hot garbage IMO, though.

  • fulltonon
    fulltonon Member Posts: 5,762

    Jokes on you, I'm blaming other side even if I win as a killer.

  • ChiSoxFan11
    ChiSoxFan11 Member Posts: 1,093

    Pretty much this in a nutshell.

    It's very difficult for people in general to focus on themselves when it's easier to point the finger somewhere else and say "That's the reason for XXX". It's something you see in everyday life, not just in video games.

    From my end, when I'm playing DBD, there are legitimate reasons why there are matches where my not "winning" (either as survivor or killer) may not be because I didn't play well, but things that are not in my control (bad teammates in solo queue, bad map or RNG as killer. etc.). However, even in those instances, there are likely examples in said matches where I made mistakes myself that contributed to the result, and there are always matches where I can trace my result back directly to how I played (especially as killer).

    Self-reflection is the path to improvement in everything, not just in a video game.

  • JonahsTablet
    JonahsTablet Member Posts: 762

    Yeah man, I just got my 469th win with Perkless, Add-onless Clown on Badham.

  • Chaos999
    Chaos999 Member Posts: 869

    People will go out of their way to express their sentiments of anger, frustration and unhappiness.

    People who are content or satisfied will rarely feel the need to share or express it.

    This phenomenon is exacerbated on the internet, because of several reasons. So when looking at it, it would appear that all you have is a bunch of complaints from unsatisfied persons, but for every complainer you have several silently content enjoyers.

    I mean here in the forum I mostly see the same few dozen persons complaining over and over, a few new faces that also come to complain, a very few select members that actually come here to do things other than complain and that's about it.

    When you look at the store opinions, you realize there are tons of people that just say "fun game, try it".

    Or maybe I'm just crazy. Can't ignore that possibility

  • Firellius
    Firellius Member Posts: 5,636

    Technically, your opponent IS responsible for you losing.