If Boon totems didn't exist, this game wouldn't be so bad for killers

Yeah the funny thing is that strong killers still barely even care about boons but it just totally murderers the weaker ones and a few hit-and-run types. So if SBMM wasn't enough, it's even more of an encouragment to just spam meta killers/builds and camp/tunnel everyone because that's the only viable strategy for alot of characters in the days of 4 second healing speeds.

CoH should not be treated as boon issue. It's CoH issue, it's self-healing issue, it's healing speed issue. CoH should not be nerfed as boon, it should be nerfed as single perk.

Maybe.

It would be fine if boons worked like hexes. They're assigned to a random dull totem that has a high chance of spawning next to the killer and once it's snuffed it's gone forever.

I think this is exactly what is happening. Healing is a time waster for good players. The teams I play with that end up self-healing at CoH, lose the match. The players that heal other players end up winning games. I find that I win more matches when I don't self-heal at CoH and get a teammate to heal me.

I think inexperienced Killers are blaming coh, when it's really time management on the killers part.

Yea but while you're off self healing everytime you're injured there's someone on your team using pallets and possibly getting hooked when pumping out a gen was the best option, I stand by the fact that good players won't use COH because you're just stalling the game and nothing is getting done, now it becomes an issue when multiple people have this same mindset that they cant work injured and then all the pallets are gone and there's nothing for the killer to respect because at that point they can just bloodlust for the down. COH is at it's best against a endgame camping killer when you need to reset and go back in for a rescue but other than that you're wasting too much time

It speaks volumes about player mindset when healing time is to much to distract you from gens. Survivor isn't that time crunched that gens need to be smashed out in under 4mins, but that's the mindset that players go in with.

Its maybe 1 game in 10 where the killer is applying enough pressure to mean healing is wasted time. Its typically far better to reset and smash out the last two gens then it is to stay injured and risk a snowball to solely focus on gens.

These are the players who get caught out by NOED etc because rather than spending a few seconds to focus on secondary tasks like healing and totems they have this idea that completing gens in 4mins is the be all and end all of the game.

I'm afraid its just not that time crunched for survivor that healing with COH stalls the game so much to use up all the pallets. That's just players who waste too many pallets.

The party wide ability to reset wounds solo at increased pace is just too easy a mechanic not to exploit and at the same time it resets the pressure of being wounded, when compared to the sunk cost of getting those wounds its a no brainer. Unless you are so gen focused that you are missing every other part of the game, even the good map sense to avoid wasting pallets.

None of which has any relevance to whether or not COH is OP.

You have a playstyle you prefer and its highly efficient, great. Not everyone is gonna play like that and thank god or the game would be more dull than it currently is. COH does a little too much to reset hit and run playstyles and lessen the variety of games, its is generally a bad perk as a result.

You don't need to run it but its so easy to heal up if you do that healing is a no brainer if you have it.

Being injured should be threatening but its really not and that's a shame.

Well that's fine we can agree to disagree, you want it removed because it's strong , I want it removed because bots who can't use it correctly waste too much time off gens, against really good killers that try to snowball COH will make you lose but against the average player I'll admit it's not a race against time in those games

It doesn't need to be removed but it does need some tweaking. Either how boons work needs to change or COH needs to change.

They slowed the heal speed which is a start but the infinite nature of re-lighting boons is not too far removed from original Hex:undying and that got hit with the nerf stick pretty quick.

I'm of the opinion that Boon totems as a whole is a FINE addition to the game.

BUT.... and its a big but... Boon COH is where most of the bs problem comes where its super annoying to deal with. compounded further by bhvr's being so tone death attitude to the community's complaint ON BOTH SIDES MIND YOU that the maps are way too big and save tiles being problematic when they're aligned next to one safe structure over the other. not to mention all the problematic second chance perks. COH just further highlighted the problem with the game's meta of bs mechanics.

with every other boon perk there is at least some back and forth, the survivor needs to bring the killer near the totem if they wanna get use out of it, which then risks the killer finding it and snuffing it. so there is always a back and forth of getting value from it vs the killer spending the time to counter it. with COH it basically says eFF all of that and it gives free value for the whole team because for the killer to go out of their way to go cleanse them its a bigger time investment than the value they could get from just downing.

COH's value should at most stop stacking with other healing actions or items. and at most extreme only self heals as fast as selfcare+botony.

andhey then they'll just bribe the playerbase again with a few thousand BP thinking it can fix the playerbase from leaking off of the boat. XD