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I was flamed for cleansing totems by another survivor.
I got so sick and tired of seeing NOED and decided to do what every killer told me to do on the forums. DO BONES.
So I did.
I went around the map, cleansed every hex/dull totem I could find and one Mikaela came up to me and started to point at me profusely.
Then at end game, she started going off about "why'd you cleanse totems when boons are meta" "You're trash" "You ruined the entire match for everyone" and etc.
So, I DON'T cleanse totems and get flamed by killers, when I DO cleanse them, I get flamed by survivors.
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO FREAKIN' DO???
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just do bones
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I literally did. I still got blamed for ruining the game for everyone.
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Well…
Do them anyway, if someone wants to ######### about it ignore them.
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Don’t cleanse all the totems. Just take note of where they are in case noed comes into play.
Noed needs to be reworked. Cleansing all the totems is not practical counterplay to prevent something that the killer may not have and actively hurts the boon economy in a meta where coh is extremely common. (And I’m not implying coh is balanced; it’s not, just speaking objectively here.) Add onto that the fact that Pentimento exists.
But yeah. Imo, cleansing totems is a waste of time unless it’s a hex or you’re running a perk that requires a cleanse (eg. clairvoyance).
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Out of 4 games I did bones, 2 of them blamed me for wasting time and 1 told me I was trash.
I don't want to hear those things for doing smth others advised me to do.
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Trust me that’s more then my solo q teammates do.
Id rather know sooner than later that the killers has NOED
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Was the Mikaela pointing at you when you were cleansing? If I was you I would have stopped to see if she would Boon it (if so).
Also to answer your question: The "do bones" strategy to prevent NOED isn't usually viable and... the killer might not even have it. Furthermore, Pentimento now exists so the whole "do bones" strategy is even less appealing. You need to be on gens against killers that have good pressure, cleansing totems should be an afterthought. So I would never "do bones". You should take your opponents advice (killers) with a pinch of salt (also "do bones" is an actual meme).
The best thing to do is to take a mental note of where you've seen totems throughout the match and if there is NOED, hopefully you can therefore cleanse it quickly.
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The comment made by T1nity proves your advise otherwise...
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So many contradicting advice from multiple sources... I dunno who to follow anymore...
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Seems like the best thing you can do is turn off end game chat.
Seriously. That chat is the best argument I have that console is the best way to play this game.
Whether you notate where each totem is, cleanse as you see them, or ignore totems until noed pops, you don't need that sort of abuse from your own team. Ignore them, focus on whatever strategy you feel gives you the best results in game.
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It's a meme like I said, I don't think you actually read what I said.
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I did, but Tr1nity firmly seems to believe doing bones is rightfully justified...
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Learn to ignore your solo queue teammates and killer rants in chat. Anyone who is disrespectful towards you in chat isn't worth your time and you should just move on.
I run Inner Strength, I do bones for my heals, boons be damned.
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You know, that's what I told the Mikaela... that there are other sources of healing instead of CoH, but she told me to get with the times and proceeded to call me an "idiot who uses perks that are no longer viable" lol
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“Just do bones” is a bad argument and I’m tired of hearing every other killer defend noed with it. The same way I’m also tired of survivors saying it to defend coh.
It is not practical counterplay to either boons or noed, with a different reason for each.
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So many times i had people waving or pointing at me when cleansing a totem just so they can cleanse them themselfs when they didnt even had a perk like inner strengh.
Fk this, i am not stopping unless i KNOW you have a boon.
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No argument here.
I just don't use CoH and am frustrated with dealing with NOED, but gets blamed every time I try to prevent it. There's nothing really I can do atm. sigh...
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If a boon doesn't go up in the first few minutes of the match, I tend to get totems that are in sneaky places (you know the ones that no one can find usually) if it's RPD I just cleanse as I see them. If someone wants to complain, they had time to activate their perk
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Regardless if it's there or not all Dem bones will be broken...why....Boons that's why. I'll break every totem, unless a Boon is already on it. (I'm not a total ass now). I don't have Boon Perks so I need some broken bones for my locky heal. With Small Game I usually root out 4/5 totems before gens are done and that's only because of Boons that are on a totem. Before anyone says well your not doing Gens or some BS like that, I am you'll be surprised how many totems are actually within range of a Gen.
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Or bless, but NOED is stronger than pentimento and it’s a rare perk.
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I think it may be safe to wager that the people advising you to do bones and the toxic people in your actual games are not related in any way.
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I can ensure you that whatever you do in this game...it's always wrong. That is why I've stopped listening to those people a long time ago. I make sure to do whatever I want to do in a match, not trolling, just doing what I think is right in that situation. And if I want to cleanse totems I CLEANSE TOTEMS! If someone runs a boon perk I won't cleanse all totems though.
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Probably the optimal strategy is leave the totems up initially, but then on the last gen take a minute to destroy the remaining totems. That leaves Boon users multiple choices early in the match but eliminates fhe threat of NOED at the end.
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Pentimento is so useless, it tells the survivors when the killer has activated it.
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Survivors worst enemy is not the killer. Its other survivors lol
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disregard the opinions of mikaelas. destroy bones. win game. repeat as needed
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I had a Bill corner me when I cleansed a dull totem and he kept pointing at me until the killer arrived and smacked him. Thankfully the killer went after Bill and left me alone. I don't understand survivors sometimes. You just can't win with people.
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Take one minute to destroy all 5 totems? It takes 14...12? Seconds, which is already a minute, then you gotta factor in travel time
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Well as a killer main I can give my opinion on what would mess me up the most in terms of survivor strategies.
As such, my opinion would be to cleanse some of the totems, but keep two or so that are in good spots for boons. Somewhere the killer has to go out of their way to snuff. Any others you should cleanse, so ones that are near a gen or near hooks. That will give what I believe to be the best mid-ground between, cleansing for noed, allowing for boons, and applying pressure to generators.
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I am a survivor main and I see where you are coming from I have died more to noed then anything else. I play with friends mostly (solo honestly sucks) but when I have played solo and Noed has come into play (first down some times) it is extremely saddening to see the three others around a door open it and leave you on hook not bothering to even look. I have seen people say play how you want and I agree. If I que solo I run detectives hunch and conterforce so I can easily find and cleanse totems as gens are done (extremely useful when they have devour hope). So play how you want ignore the boon babies cause if they want to use their boons they can just "git goot" at finding the totem before you ;)
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This is why I despise boons,it completely broke the totem cleansing and I hate it.
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If you cleansed the totems before Mikaela could boon one, thats her problem, not yours. she shouldve already had her boon up to prevent you from cleansing it.
Some people really need to get it together.
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The Mikaila was right, that breaking bones removes boon options from your team. OP was clearly not on the same wave length so the anger is misplaced to some degree. But I would stand by her point to OP. Let your teammates boon.
Pentimento exists and OP would be a dream for many killers playing right now.
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It usually takes longer than one minute to complete the last generator or two since those tend to be easier for the killer to defend.
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You fundamentally did the correct thing. If I were running all four boons I would still want you to do bones.
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Objectively its best to take note of totems and maybe cleanse only one or two at most, then if NOEd procs you go back to the remaining totems that you know the location of to check for it and cleanse it.
So its "do bones" but in an indirect and intelligent way.
That being said... if you want to cleanse every totem you find then go for it. You aren't in the wrong here, the people having a meltdown at you for how you play are.
I clear totems all the time its worth BP's I'll do it if I want to. I really don't care if Salty McTantrum takes the game too seriously that any deviation from a very specific script of play is somehow an affront to their fun.
That's because, and I say this without a hint of malice, to hell with their version of fun or playstyle, you're not responsible for it.
The major problem with this game's player base is people have a very single minded way in which they expect it to be played and get really pissy when that doesn't happen.
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Agreed to that one.
I'm a survivor who hasn't quite recovered from a combined NOED/Ruin/Undying/Devour-trauma yet 😂
Started running detectives hunch - not just to find totems to cleanse but also to just generally get a feel for where totem spawns are (so eventually I can free up that perk slot).
Clean two along-the-road totems when you pass them - and you will pass them (and they're terrible for boons as well so no booner should be sad about them). That leaves three for possible boons and you have a good idea of where the remaining bones are so in case of NOED and someone being downed it's still quite manageable to check those totem locations and get rid of NOED in time for a rescue.
Actually, if everyone's on the same page in that regard getting rid of bones has essentially no impact on the "normal progression" of the game and NOED is gone within twenty seconds of being activated.
That being said. More often than not it's not really a foolproof strategy cause usually there's quite a bit going on during a match and more often than not you don't get around to the totems between hooks, heals, chases and gens. It's about as viable a strategy as "bruh, just snuff coh". But like i said; I'm mildly traumatised, so I do it anyway.
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Eh, idk, it's just everytime I've tried to hunt for a totem, everyone popped 3 gens and never give me a chance, lol
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Lol, could be. Honestly I play killer mainly so take what I say there with a grain of salt. (I also don’t use NOED that often, I think the only killer I have it on at the moment is Hag in an all totem build.)
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Just move on from it I cleanse all the time someone will probably get upset at me but, it doesn't matter cause you play how you wanna play. That person probably relies to heavily on Boons and seems to not want to much challenge in there games.
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As fellow survivor, do bones. If someone is running boon perk they should go boon a totem so rest can get cleansed to prevent NOED.
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But dem 1000 cleansing points 😅
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Keep cleansing bones and make the booners cry
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If you're gonna cleanse all the totems, at least bring Counterforce or some other totem detection. You can also wait til NOED appears and just look for the totem. What ends up happening with noob survivors is they'll cleanse some totems, but not all of them, and the ones that they cleansed were the obvious, easy to see spots which means the NOED is gonna be in a really hard to find spot now.
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Okay fair, lol. If it’s at the end of the match and everyone is safe I might do a dull totem for points.
But I have score events hidden anyways because I got tired of them clogging up the top right.
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The best way to motivate a Mikaela to find a boon totem early is to tell them in pre-game chat you have Small Game, Counterforce and Detective's Hunch equipped and are doing a totem cleansing challenge regardless of the actual truth. Then hope you don't need Mikaela to unhook you at any point in the match.
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Play how you want, but for me, cleansing ALL totems for NOED is a waste of time. I make a mental note of totem spawns and return later if I have to.
With COH being a stronger perk than NOED, I would rather have that and deal with NOED later, if it even comes up at all. With people doing their challenges or dailies or maybe the killer already has a lot of pressure created without a gen done, it's almost always the better play to prioritize gens over anything else in solo queue.
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It depends on the totem location. The ones that are in the main building and annoying for the killer to get to are bad to cleanse early because booning those can waste a lot of the killer's time to track them down. Cleansing totems that always spawn in the same location first is equally bad because if NOED is involved, you just made tracking it a lot harder.
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do bones and ignore
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CoH is obviously a very helpful and strong perk to have in the game. It's not a good idea to destroy every totem (CoH can no longer be used) when the killer may not even have NOED. It's best to remember totem locations and break them later.
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