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I'm surprised I don't see a lot of Plagues with this COH meta

Maybe in the beginning but now not a lot. Any reason why?

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  • Chocolate_Cosmos
    Chocolate_Cosmos Member Posts: 5,735

    Probably she is not so fun to play as.

    I like her, she is good and very unique power but... no really mood to play her at all.

  • GillyBeannn
    GillyBeannn Member Posts: 554

    I'm surprised most ppl consider her boring, I personally find her fun.

  • GillyBeannn
    GillyBeannn Member Posts: 554
    edited March 2022

    Oh yeah that I can understand. It seems like Plague doesn't have proper puke validation and that can be really frustrating and annoying.

    Post edited by GillyBeannn on
  • GillyBeannn
    GillyBeannn Member Posts: 554

    I find that when plagues use thana and other slowdown perks, ppl tend to cleanse more because they don't wanna deal with the penalties.

  • MilManson
    MilManson Member Posts: 939

    Easily loopable and the sick state gives survivors a free dead hard from the start of the ability.

  • Murgleïs
    Murgleïs Member Posts: 1,105

    She has a lot of style but is weak against survivors with more than half a brain.

    They will genrush you and then all cleanse together, making your power useless. They will milk everyloop and then hide behind pallets / walls to avoid the red puke and stun you / cancel your power.

    Also the maps are huge, she has no mobility, the survivors dictate what you can do. If you don’t use Corrupt Intervention, you will lose minimum 1 to 2 gen, even 3 if they are split.

    Does than sound fun to you ?

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564

    She is so loud, that makes me not play her.

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 7,019

    I see her fairly often. Definitely more than I used to before her buffs.

    I like playing her too.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,817

    i respectfully disagree id rather play pyramid or sadako or quite a few others than her

  • Adjatha
    Adjatha Member Posts: 1,814
    edited March 2022

    If Plague's puke actually registered hits like it's supposed to, you'd see a lot more of her.

    There is nothing more frustrating than letting a full charge loose on a point-blank survivor and they walk away without any infection at all.

  • Veinslay
    Veinslay Member Posts: 1,959

    Someone else brought it up in this thread, but her whispering/chanting when you have Corrupt Purge is so obnoxiously loud that you can't hear anything else going on basically. I wish they would address that, but that can go on the backburner until CoH and Dead Hard are nuked

  • Gamedozer7
    Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 2,657

    I play killer with headphones and it's pretty annoying to have her yelling in my ears the whole time it's even louder then gens it feels sometime.

  • The_Krapper
    The_Krapper Member Posts: 3,259

    Idk what it is about plague but playing as her makes me dizzy something about the way the camera looks when you're walking around makes me want to vomit in real life so I choose to stay away from her.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited March 2022

    Well for a few reasons:

    1. Survivors control too much of her power. Not even speaking in terms of her power level here but simply from a fun stand point. It isn't fun when the survivors are the ones that get to dictate whether or not you get to even use your ability or if you just get to play a loopable m1 killer all game. That much control over whether she gets to use her power isn't good design.
    2. She's extremely loopable with no counter play if the survivors don't cleanse. Yes they are 1 hit down, but that only matters if the survivors aren't good at looping. So you're left in this position where you're just hoping the survivors are bad...that's not fun. There are more than enough pallets to throw them all early and still have the gates open before you run out.
    3. Survivors don't have enough incentive to cleanse. If you're a good survivor you don't care about being 1 hit down with how safe loops are and numerous pallets are.
    4. She's extremely susceptible to being gen rushed even more than most killers..who are already getting gen rushed hard. It's just even more exacerbated on her when the survivors don't have to waste any time on healing and how much extra time she wastes to get them infected. She's just exceptionally inefficient when it comes to time. They have nothing to do but sit on gens.
    5. Even in the case where you do get them cleansing and you can get faster downs, all those faster downs aren't really faster when you look at the extra time you wasted getting them infected, going out of your way to pick up a fountain, and time you gave them on gens by them not having to actually heal. You're essentially just giving up time early to get it back later and coming out more or less just even, maybe even in the negative. This only actually ends up better when you can snowball from it with a multi slug and that realistically isn't happening against good survivors.
    6. Her corrupt purge forces you to respect all pallets which again makes her loopable. The slow travel time and high arc of her vomit is also quite easy to avoid if you know how to loop and hug walls.
    7. Finally the server ping really destroys her vomit. You will get lots of times you receive the hit notification of her vomit but it doesn't actually damage or infect them. It's quite irritating.


    There needs to be more of a danger to refusing to cleanse while fully infected.

    -Maybe momentary pauses when you vomit to making looping more dangerous or a small like 4m TR reduction to Plague for each survivor fully infected. Just spitballing ideas here.

    There also needs to be more time efficiency on her corrupt purge acquisition.

    -Allow her to collect her pools remotely from anywhere, just give her a momentary stand still to channel it wherever she's at.

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  • Hawk81584
    Hawk81584 Member Posts: 405

    As a survivor, she’s not easy to deal with, so personally I’m pretty glad I do t have to see more from her

  • Marc_123
    Marc_123 Member Posts: 3,689

    I saw some these days.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,105

    few reasons, sounds like long laundry list of them.

    The interesting part about #5 is that survivor not healing is survivor's playing at their absolute strongest. it really highlight how much weaker the other m1 killers are with second chance health states.

    In regards #6, I just wish they unnerfed her add-ons. did they really have to nerf rubbing oil & worship tablet to make corrupt puke weaker. slow wind-up really hurts : (

  • El_Gingero
    El_Gingero Member Posts: 1,147

    She’s pretty strong but overrated imho. If you’re unlucky with fountain spawns and if survivors play efficiently, she’s a tier 3 Myers for the majority of the match, but without an extended lunge or faster vault.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    "few reasons, sounds like long laundry list of them."

    Fair haha

    "The interesting part about #5 is that survivor not healing is survivor's playing at their absolute strongest. it really highlight how much weaker the other m1 killers are with second chance health states."

    It does. People over estimate how dangerous being injured is. Loops are just too safe and pallets too numerous. This all stems from balancing around bottom up instead of top down.

    "In regards #6, I just wish they unnerfed her add-ons. did they really have to nerf rubbing oil & worship tablet to make corrupt puke weaker. slow wind-up really hurts : ("

    They tend to nerf things that don't need nerfing. How it goes unfortunately :(

  • FrostyEyesSusie
    FrostyEyesSusie Member Posts: 421


    Your power is to make everyone the equivallent of exposed. Imagine a Myers with a permanent tier 3 EW. Unless they cleanse up in which case you become a better Huntress.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,570

    Myers at least gets a longer lunge and faster vaulting for his t3 and unlike plague can ignore dead hard on healthy survivors. And even factoring those bonuses, Myers still isn't hard to loop.

    Like survivors being 1 hit down only matters if you get that hit.

  • GillyBeannn
    GillyBeannn Member Posts: 554
    edited March 2022

    Oh I get what you mean. I don't have motion sickness but I guess her weapon taking up half the screen and the constant shaking your camera to puke on survivors can be a bit woozy. I don't get woozy shaking my camera personally but I understand for those who do have motion sickness. That's why I never play Plague without shadowborn, it's kinda needed on her if you have that problem and it just gives a quality of life. Have you tried playing Plague with shadowborn?

  • The_Krapper
    The_Krapper Member Posts: 3,259

    No I haven't put that on her and tried it yet I may do that I've always wanted to test some builds on her I have her maxed out, thanks for the input hopefully it helps.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,708

    Because survivors are OP even without CoH.

  • ManyAchievables
    ManyAchievables Member Posts: 667

    She's really just... not fun to play as. Something about her never feels satisfying.

  • GillyBeannn
    GillyBeannn Member Posts: 554
  • Canas
    Canas Member Posts: 1,021

    Legion can put people into injured state as easily and yet they're regarded as one of the weakest killers in the game. Plague is pretty much the same since she has no power if survivors refuse to cleanse. Also since quite literally EVERYONE is running Dead Hard it's like they still have two health states. Infact survivors genrush even harder against her since they won't bother healing anyway.

    Dedicated servers pretty much put the final nail into her coffin by removing the skill aspect and turning her puke validation into a matter of sheer luck. Eiter the game registers your projectile or it doesn't, that's pretty much it. Just missing your Corrupt Purge once can lead to devastating time losses.

  • remoirel
    remoirel Member Posts: 231

    I love Plague, but her power is just generally borked since the switch to dedicated. It can take forever to actually infect a survivor with multiple streams of your power, just because they can do the animation of being hit without actually gaining any stacks of infection.

    That plus nobody cleanses, so you have no power to use, and them being perma broken means they don't waste time healing. I hate running slowdowns but you basically have to on Plague to get anything out of the match. Its boring.