Sooo, Im really sick of SWF
Im constantly being paired against SWF ( I know because its confirmed in end game chat) The most concerning thing is that I was playing as a brand new killer that I had never even tried before with one perk. First game and I get paired with one again, resulting in a game I cant possibly enjoy. Please for the love of god, stop SWF pairing until I at least have four slot perks opened.
I rarely play killer as it is because of SWF and now I can't even try a new killer without SWF toxicity
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I don’t think the issue is SWF, the issue is the survivors were just good.
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Fair enough, but doesn't a coordinated team perpetuate the issue of t hem being "good"?
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15% difference in escape rates implies something different
It's common knowledge SWF is OP. But now there is even a statistic to point to as well
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They are the most toxic when they lose or win too. Pretty sad state of affairs when the killer is needed for them to even play.
I had one swf that just wanted to fool about with 4 head on's. Was pretty funny when they somehow knocked a locker down on me.
They never even touched gens.
Memorable game that!
Generally it's rough though when they communicate your every move. Just plain silly really.
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This game is so old that you are not going to be able to avoid playing against experienced opponents whether they play together or not. It is an ancient problem and all you can do is try your best and earn as much bp as you can.
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Can't complain about SWF on the forums, man. You're just deflecting blame for your loss. The survivors' performance is never in question, but yours always is.
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I played DBD with Xbox game pass. My very first game ever I played as a lvl 1 Trapper with 1 perk. I got 4 rank 1 SWF, 4 DHs, Coh, etc. If that was my first game ever I'd uninstall the game and never play again lol.
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In my limited experience, its not just about skill but level of fun. Going against tougher opponents CAN be fun, its the toxicity that swf brings. Just had another game against 3 bills macroing flashlight clicks all game. SWF toxicity is definately driving me away from playing killer even more than it has.
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Point of order: the wording in BHVR's statement was something along the lines of "a difference of as much as 15% at some MMR brackets."
We don't know what that escape rate is, if it's even problematic, or what that MMR is when that differential takes place. If a solo player had a 35% escape rate that jumped to 50% in SWF, it wouldn't mean SWF was OP. But that would be a literal 15% jump. Even if we take them literally at a flat 15% (which we shouldn't), there are still unknowns.
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Most other popular games limit the team sizes in ranked mode. Apex legends keeps 3 stacks out of solo / duo Q lobbies. League limits you to a duo in a 5v5 game, etc etc. Just saying "I am going for the save" on discord is worth like 3+ perk slots to the team. So many other competitive games acknowledge the difference in performance between people on voice comms and people who are not.
DBD just throws them all together in a nice unbalanced and lazy mess. The survivor's skill has nothing to do with the problem.
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Join the huge ass club....
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"Good"
If only playing Survivor required even half the amount of skill playing Killer did, and this wouldn't be as much of a problem.
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Honestly, being sick of swf is like being sick of tunneling.
If you can't get used to it, better find a new game.
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If you read my original comment, im sick of SWF toxicity when it's paired against brand new killers who haven't had a chance to learn. All Im suggesting is that low level killers (pre 4 slots unlocked) should not be subjected to them. I can deal with them (mostly) on the killers I have leveled and had a chance to understand.
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I feel you. I'm pretty exclusively solo myself, but understand the frustration.
However, swf seems to be a big part of the player base, and as such you gotta expect you will meet them in game.
Is it always fair, no. But MM is a ######### show currently. And just being a swf does not necessarily make them good. Regardless, killers are getting ranked with available players because of the gap in killer to survivors ratio.
Sad but true. So killers have less room to grow before being thrown to the wolves.
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SWF isn't healthy for the game.
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How many I hate swf posts have we had in the last 5-6 years now?
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Gonna be honest, if i feel like the survivors are SWF i either dodge or bring Franklin's and lightborn,
just incase they pull that 4 flashlights bs at 10 seconds
its SOOO unfun to play against them
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I'm a survivor main and I hate playing with SWF people because it's hell. But you can't talk about it here, it's like Bruno pretty much...
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Just like how nurse is the worst killer with 40 something % killrate huh?
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It's because people are in denial. They literally believe SWF has no influence on the outcome of a match, and therefore killers who blame SWF are just making excuses for their bad play.
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Didnt you get the memo?
According to this Forum, all Survivors are trash at the game, but became a godlike tournament squad when they are a 4 man SWF. Because 4 trash Survivors together will be unbeatable.
Yeez, arguing reasonable that the Survivors might have just been good.
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true and real. Why add mmr and not the other stuff that goes with it to keep it playable.
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