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What’s the average time Ruin stands?

Why not make it an offering, I see so many post of ruin being useless and how it doesn’t last 30 seconds.

why not make it a common offering for killers with a time of 60 seconds. 

Or even an activation perk, as long as two dull totems remain you can activate ruin.

Comments

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited January 2019

    @katoptris said:
    As soon as you take a step ruin get destroyed

    This !
    Definitely.
    LOL i just can't be aangry anymore i just watch notification and laugh.
    I know im dumb but i removed Ruin for Thanato LOL.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,678

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    Why not make it an offering, I see so many post of ruin being useless and how it doesn’t last 30 seconds.

    People tend to exaggerate things. It is 100% not everytime gone during the first few minutes.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

  • katoptris
    katoptris Member Posts: 3,326
    powerbats said:

    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

    It only stay Alive for me if it not on the hill in all it glory 
  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,140
    It's a mixed bag. Had games it was never touched and had takes it was spawned right next to a survivor. It's a high risk high reward perk. I personally would be against it being an offering. 
  • weirdkid5
    weirdkid5 Member Posts: 2,144

    I had a Killer DC once because his Ruin got destroyed before he could even get to the other side of the map to defend it.

    Pretty good job.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    For about 30 seconds after the survivor is in control of his character

  • Science_Guy
    Science_Guy Member Posts: 2,073

    Depends on which map you're on.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @powerbats said:
    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068
    edited January 2019

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:
    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    Have you met the Nurse when she's played by a good killer because if not then your statement is false oh and Umbra_bug says hi.

  • Laakeri
    Laakeri Member Posts: 835
    Forever in r1 and maybe 1 minute in mid ranks.

    Why waste time looking for totem when you can just hit great skillchecks and become a machine in games where there isnt ruin?
  • Ryuhi
    Ryuhi Member Posts: 4,533

    @powerbats said:
    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

    ...Why would they complain if they got kills while its up? That would mean that they're actually getting some kind of benefit from the perk they put in their loadout. The reason they complain is because it can become a lack of a perk slot within seconds of a match starting.

    Its like taking alert as a survivor, then finding out you're going against freddy (who the perk does nothing against, unless you're already in the dream world.) He's not exactly the best killer, but it completely nullifies part of your loadout.

  • Ryuhi
    Ryuhi Member Posts: 4,533

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:
    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    Yes and no. Good survivors will (and do) power through it, but those same survivors would have likely been getting great checks and going even faster. So, if nothing else, it slows gens at least small amount vs good survivors, and a lot vs bad ones.

  • WatchBloodRain
    WatchBloodRain Member Posts: 175
    Versing doctor two matches ago couldnt find it at all, 3 people died before it was found, last match against huntress dropped it within a minute
  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    weirdkid5 said:

    I had a Killer DC once because his Ruin got destroyed before he could even get to the other side of the map to defend it.

    Pretty good job.

    I can one up you they had thrill and ruin and the second I touched a totem dc
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:
    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    Have you met the Nurse when she's played by a good killer because if not then your statement is false oh and Umbra_bug says hi.

    what does nurse have to do with ruin?

  • BlackReaper
    BlackReaper Member Posts: 134
    edited January 2019

    @Aven_Fallen said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    Why not make it an offering, I see so many post of ruin being useless and how it doesn’t last 30 seconds.

    People tend to exaggerate things. It is 100% not everytime gone during the first few minutes.

    yeah, when i play at rank 1 the killer is too much obsessed with the ruin and we dont even care about it and rush all the gens with ruin, just hitting great skillcheck like mad mans, its happen to me sometimes.
    And sometimes you cant find it and you lose because your team dont work on a single gen trying to find it.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:
    I've had matches where Ruin stays up the entire game just due to how well it's hidden and the killer either gets everyone, 1 or more escapes and or no gens get done and killer 4k's. I've also had matches where it dies within 30 seconds of match starting.

    But like I've said killers complain about it getting destroyed but don't complain when they get kills because it was up.

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    Have you met the Nurse when she's played by a good killer because if not then your statement is false oh and Umbra_bug says hi.

    what does nurse have to do with ruin?

    You said only bad survivors die to Ruin so I pointed out one of the killers that kills good survivors when Ruin is up along with Umbra_Bug.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    nurse doesn't need ruin to kill good survivors in the first place so your point is irrelevant
    totems shouldn't be spawning in view of survivors as soon as they load in period

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,098

    10 seconds into the match

  • Bongbingbing
    Bongbingbing Member Posts: 1,423

    Usually within the first minute or two but the very, very odd time It'll stand for a decent amount of time.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @yeet said:
    nurse doesn't need ruin to kill good survivors in the first place so your point is irrelevant
    totems shouldn't be spawning in view of survivors as soon as they load in period

    Nice deflection, you said and I quote

    @yeet said:

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    So yes my point is relevant and you once again just can't admit it oh and Umbra_Bug again says hi and she's a Huntress 2-5 min games on average with Ruin usually 4k's.

    But hey if a good killer doesn't need Ruin why are good killers using Ruin if they don't need it? I mean you just said a good nurse doesn't need Ruin to kill good survivors yet they run it.

  • Grandkurama
    Grandkurama Member Posts: 328
    When you load the game it's already destroyed
  • SmokePotion
    SmokePotion Member Posts: 1,089

    Depends on the map. When it spawns in the middle of a cornfield, all nice and bright, about 2 steps.

    Generally speaking, it lasts for 1 hook. It's a trade off perk. Instead of losing 2 generators for your first hook (on average) you will lose 1 totem.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160

    I'd say somewhere between 30-60 seconds against bad Survivors or towards the end of the match against competent Survivors.

    ...or almost instantly if something like that happens:

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    The time is more or less inversely proportional to how much the Survivors in your game suffer from its effects. If they can't hit Great Skill Checks consistently, it's usually gone before you can do anything about it. If they can hit Great Skill Checks consistently, it might very well stay during the entire trial.

  • HawkAyeTheNoo
    HawkAyeTheNoo Member Posts: 731
    Seems like a waste of a perk slot if it keeps getting taken out so quickly.

    Even if you try hiding it better we survivors will hunt it, we will find it and we will take it away from you. :) 
  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,823
    If it always gets cleansed so quickly then why would people continue to use it so often, even at rank 1? The logic makes no sense.

    "Ruin gets destroyed within the first two minutes ... but also it's a mandatory perk! I love running 3 perks instead of 4 for 90% of the match."
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    If it always gets cleansed so quickly then why would people continue to use it so often, even at rank 1? The logic makes no sense.

    "Ruin gets destroyed within the first two minutes ... but also it's a mandatory perk! I love running 3 perks instead of 4 for 90% of the match."
    You gotta love that irony. I need Ruin but it doesn't do #########.

    I've started to replace Ruin with either Sloppy or PGTW and found little difficulty honestly.
  • Watery
    Watery Member Posts: 1,167
    Ruin is an odd duck, in terms of perks. Ruin usually either gets cleansed at the start of the match, or is found too late, IMO.
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Mc_Harty said:
    brokedownpalace said:

    If it always gets cleansed so quickly then why would people continue to use it so often, even at rank 1? The logic makes no sense.

    "Ruin gets destroyed within the first two minutes ... but also it's a mandatory perk! I love running 3 perks instead of 4 for 90% of the match."

    You gotta love that irony. I need Ruin but it doesn't do #########.

    I've started to replace Ruin with either Sloppy or PGTW and found little difficulty honestly.

    Yeah I always love the irony as well, they complain when it gets cleansed and thus play with 3 perks and don't complain when it doesn't get cleansed.

    On my Spirit when I'm in red ranks I run Rancor, BBQ if farming for points and if not run Bitter since it's great especially at the end. The other combos are M&A if i'm going jumpscare and if I really want a jumpscare I'll add in Tinkerer.

    If not Tinkerer I'll use Franklin's if it's 4 of anything and then go from there for the 4th perk.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @powerbats said:
    Yeah I always love the irony as well, they complain when it gets cleansed and thus play with 3 perks and don't complain when it doesn't get cleansed.

    On my Spirit when I'm in red ranks I run Rancor, BBQ if farming for points and if not run Bitter since it's great especially at the end. The other combos are M&A if i'm going jumpscare and if I really want a jumpscare I'll add in Tinkerer.

    If not Tinkerer I'll use Franklin's if it's 4 of anything and then go from there for the 4th perk.

    My Freddy set-up is Surveillance, Sloppy Butcher, Bamboozle and BBQ. I probably swap out BBQ for Make Your Choice if I wasn't such a ######### for bloodpoints.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    edited January 2019

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:
    nurse doesn't need ruin to kill good survivors in the first place so your point is irrelevant
    totems shouldn't be spawning in view of survivors as soon as they load in period

    Nice deflection, you said and I quote

    @yeet said:

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    So yes my point is relevant and you once again just can't admit it oh and Umbra_Bug again says hi and she's a Huntress 2-5 min games on average with Ruin usually 4k's.

    But hey if a good killer doesn't need Ruin why are good killers using Ruin if they don't need it? I mean you just said a good nurse doesn't need Ruin to kill good survivors yet they run it.

    because they can run whatever perks they wanna run?
    also bringing up some random player who's apparently good is pretty meaningless when the caliber of rank one survivors today is pathetic and i can't even remember the last game i haven't 4Ked

  • blue4zion
    blue4zion Member Posts: 2,773

    .1 seconds

    Typically it'll be broken within the first couple minutes, especially if it spawns next to a gen or across the map from you.

  • blue4zion
    blue4zion Member Posts: 2,773

    Also the reason people still bring it in is because it still, no matter what, slows the game down. Either by lasting all match, or wasting survivors time looking/cleansing it.
    Every second counts imo

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:
    nurse doesn't need ruin to kill good survivors in the first place so your point is irrelevant
    totems shouldn't be spawning in view of survivors as soon as they load in period

    Nice deflection, you said and I quote

    @yeet said:

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    So yes my point is relevant and you once again just can't admit it oh and Umbra_Bug again says hi and she's a Huntress 2-5 min games on average with Ruin usually 4k's.

    But hey if a good killer doesn't need Ruin why are good killers using Ruin if they don't need it? I mean you just said a good nurse doesn't need Ruin to kill good survivors yet they run it.

    because they can run whatever perks they wanna run?
    also bringing up some random player who's apparently good is pretty meaningless when the caliber of rank one survivors today is pathetic and i can't even remember the last game i haven't 4Ked

    Again with the deflections, it doesn't matter who I post you'll just dodge as always it's your usual move when you can't refute just deflect.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:
    nurse doesn't need ruin to kill good survivors in the first place so your point is irrelevant
    totems shouldn't be spawning in view of survivors as soon as they load in period

    Nice deflection, you said and I quote

    @yeet said:

    ruin will only seriously affect bad survivors
    if someone is repeatedly dying because of ruin then they need to learn to hit skillchecks

    So yes my point is relevant and you once again just can't admit it oh and Umbra_Bug again says hi and she's a Huntress 2-5 min games on average with Ruin usually 4k's.

    But hey if a good killer doesn't need Ruin why are good killers using Ruin if they don't need it? I mean you just said a good nurse doesn't need Ruin to kill good survivors yet they run it.

    because they can run whatever perks they wanna run?
    also bringing up some random player who's apparently good is pretty meaningless when the caliber of rank one survivors today is pathetic and i can't even remember the last game i haven't 4Ked

    Again with the deflections, it doesn't matter who I post you'll just dodge as always it's your usual move when you can't refute just deflect.

    deflection about what? you bringing up some unrelated player?
    doesn't change the fact that ruin can be easily dealt with

  • AgentTexes
    AgentTexes Member Posts: 24

    I run Whispers. As soon as the match starts I run to the other side of the map where my totem is and usually get a down if it lights up. Then carry them away from totem.

    Then once totem pops if they powered through 2-3 gens I step it up and stop playing nice.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @yeet said:

    deflection about what? you bringing up some unrelated player?
    doesn't change the fact that ruin can be easily dealt with

    Again deflections, like I said it doesn't matter who I post videos of, who I tag you'll just keep on deflecting.

    Doesn't change the fact that it can be hidden the entire game and the killer gets 4 kills at the end either.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    deflection about what? you bringing up some unrelated player?
    doesn't change the fact that ruin can be easily dealt with

    Again deflections, like I said it doesn't matter who I post videos of, who I tag you'll just keep on deflecting.

    Doesn't change the fact that it can be hidden the entire game and the killer gets 4 kills at the end either.

    and i can get 4 kills perkless? irrelevant