AFK pig
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I agree that one has more steps than the other, but I think the intent is the same for both. And I think intent is probably going to be the biggest thing here. It's a pretty boring way do it, but it's a way of eliminating survivors. That's the player's plan, their strategy. I don't think it matters how skilled or fun we think it is. Again, even if it's stupid, the player is making an active decision to block a box in hopes of killing the survivors.
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While you have a 100% guaranteed chance of dying with 0 effort being put in by the killer?
Sounds pretty balanced to me
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Swine roulette. Unfair, fun, yours.
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I can't wait for the AFK survivor meta to arrive
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A boon that autorepairs gens and revives in proximity.
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More like
A perk that guarantees the hatch spawns at your feet and also makes it so you don't get AFK crows ever.
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Well technically they aren't refusing to play the game, they are refusing you to get the key out of the box 😅😉
They just there to try an make sure you will die in the trial after all, kills only matters 🤷🏼♂️
Don't blame pig, blame BHVR and Patrick for his hockey comparison.
Sure it might be really unfun and boring (i couldn't do it as i don't have the patience for it) you can pretty easily counter it l, even as solo.
Just pay attention to the icons of the survivors, if there's still 1 or more survivors with a trap on while you are close to finish the gen, then just 99 the gens.
Mostly it is just 1 survivor who will remain with a trap on so once 5 gens are at 99 then pop them at once and open the gates and get out asap, this way the trapped survivor can escape through the hatch.
Again it is boring AF, but not bannable and pretty easy to counter
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I thought you can't escape with trap ticking.
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Hatch escape is the exception, even if ticking.
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TBH is it even a bad thing to force pig boxes to change?
Pig boxes have needed to be changed for years because of their insane RNG nature of being completely useless or giving free kills with no real control which happens on either side.
So anything that can push for a fix for pig boxes to not make them so frustratingly RNG for both sides sounds good to me.
For example: Just think if pig boxes always needed 3 searches it means that the pig both has consistent slowdown but can't block one box to kill the survivors as there will always be 2 boxes that will free you.
This also means survivors with bad luck can't have their head pop because they got unlucky on a large map nor the opposite side of luck with constant first box escapes.
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You can only escape with a trap on through the hatch, whether it is active or not.
Try to go through the gates with a active trap on and your head will pop 😉
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Its not bannable. But if the survivors have half a brain they will 99 five gens before checking boxes.
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Knock yourself out. It is one of Pig's most fun playstyles and not against the rules whatsoever.
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AFK pig is a misnomer for it. Because really you don’t go afk. You still participate just only in the endgame.
run the addons video tape and rules set no 2, then build for endgame. Noed, bloodwarden, etc
you can engage in a couple of chases but you want to pick a box and block it eventually. Now you play RNG waiting game. Best I’ve got is 2 head pops due to blocking the box. Mostly you just get one.
It doesn’t pay off like it used to as a good team will 99 the gens get the traps they can off and then pop gens in rapid succession to try for hatch if they still have a trap.
but most games you get one kill from the head pop then it’s 3v1 for the last gen and endgame with noed and bloodwarden you should be able to mop up at least a 3k from that.
Be ready for the salt, people lose their minds at you about this but to them I say give it a try. When teams 99 gen counter play it can make for an intense endgame that’s actually a lot of fun. Even if it’s not the most interactive game start.
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Exactly someone cooked up a lil tactic using this build and it can be interesting to give it a go. I ran it for about a week till I ran out of video tapes and got mixed results.
Best game all 4 heads popped 1 from box blocking, 3 from people just not removing the traps I don’t know why 🤷♂️
I never knew if a survivor struggled off your shoulder the trap would rearm. Was it a bug but they wiggled off and their head went pop barely 2 seconds later. It was really funny.
Most people were good sports about it but I did get a lot of abuse. But I often think bad sports are gonna be bad sports regardless of what you do so might as well try something different and potentially fun before they patch it out.
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I’ve been calling it all in pig, because you pick a box and go all in, it’s a gamble but can sometimes pay off big.
Goalie pig?
Pimple popper MD?
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The fun police are out in force here.
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You should try it.
People can find all kinds of ways to play this game having a rigid expectation of how it should be played is a recipe for disappointment.
why do that to yourself?
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No thanks I’d rather play demogorgon or pyramid head chase and down survivors while listening to their awesome themes than sit there and do nothing all game leading to cheap kills. Also you get no blood points from it and no pips in the emblem system so how exactly does it benefit you. It’s doesn’t help you get any better in chase either. Afk pig and basement bubba are two things I’ll never do in dbd but that’s just me
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You are a role model! :3
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thats what happens when people exclusively play killer, their opinions are just pure biasness. let their opinions be invalid
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the only way to fix this exploit is to really just rework pig's ability. lets hope more people do this "strat" so it gets changed ASAP
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It’s a pretty easy fix. Make it so survivors have to look through 3 boxes and the third one will get the trap off.
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"most fun playstyles" my son, either you got extremely low standards, or you're easily impressed 😄
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3 boxes would be the perfect fix, but knowing bhvr, we might have to wait a few more years before that happens.
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Why is the conversation about whether it should be bannable? I don't care whether it's bannable, it shouldn't be possible to do in the first place.
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Unfortunately, it's not bannable.
Scummy sure, but you should be fine.
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I don't see why they can't just make it like pyramid head cages where it just moves to a different spot on the map
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listen i really dont care how a Killer plays the game right now. You wanna soley focus on Kills like the great hockey player the Devs say you are? sure, go for it. i dont blame you, as you said that is exactly how the Devs want you to play.
You can hardcamp, hardtunnel and keep a close eye on your boxes, patroling them like gens - but dont just sit in front of one box and do literally nothing. all of the other scenarios have one thing in common: you are actually participating in the trial, which you can not say for someone that is sitting still in front of a box without moving.
defending a Pig doing that is about as stupid as defending a Survivor sitting in the same corner all game to "tactically wait out until all the others die and then escape through hatch". This isnt a strategy, this is straight up AFKing and ruins the game for anyone else who has to put up with it.
I genuinely have to question why you people even boot up this game when you refuse to actually play it and instead just sit in the same spot without doing anything. At this point you might as well just boot up Minecraft and stand still in front of a tree there - its the same level of excitement AND you dont actively ruin other peoples experience (but that is what its all about, isnt it?).
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I find it amusing that you assume i play like that.
You don't know me and how i play, just like i don't know you and how you play.
For all i know you might actually play like something you described, who knows and who cares?
As long as it is not cheating, if that is your play style and it is whiting the rules of the game then by all means play like how you want to play.
Don't play like others expect you to play.
Just for the record, i jave stopped playing dbd for like 6+ months, just about a month after they forced MMR in this game.
Survivor was fun as it always was bit to boring to only play that.
Killer games became 5 to 7 minutes.
So yeah, now i play games where MMR actually works and was ready for it.
Tho it doesn't mean I stopped following and watching DBD.
Hoping to come back when the game is in a healthier state.
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Yeah but playing one game of it as pig doesn’t prevent you from doing those other things. You are quick to denigrate it without having played it.
I prefer other more interactive game play myself but it was kinda fun and different to try something new. Even if it’s not the most interactive.
pair it with BBQ, you typically get 1-2 kills from pops then 2 bbq stacks from the endgame kills. I was getting between 20-30k base plus bonuses when it worked.
Bring a bonus to deviousness offering and you make out pretty well.
You are knocking it without trying it.
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I don't understand, like the pig could be protecting a box that has zero keys in it, the chance of all the keys being in a single box? Not very big
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There is about the same level of interaction that happens in most base games really, it’s just confined to the endgame.
As usual people have just put a bunch of narrow assumptions on how it plays and get all snotty about it. Then sit around thumbing their self righteous noses at anyone who doesn’t play the game they way they want them to.
You are only blocking the box for the first half, it’s not that different from getting a camped out kill and then playing out the endgame in a 3 v 1 only it takes less vigilance to guard the box than the hook and you skip the first chase.
I’d say they’ll probably patch it out by making boxes accessible from other directions much like hooks. Until then give it a try you may shock yourself and like it.
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It is very different from someone getting camped out
For a start, the killer has to actually win a chase and hook a survivor before they can camp and/or tunnel somebody out. Many people would have you believe this is difficult and thus takes skill which also means it's entirely possible for you not to catch anybody in a chase.
There is also things you can do to actually stop or delay somebody who is being camped to death - there are perks for that and things a player can actively do to hinder a killer's playstyle which means there is a back and forth. This, not so much.
Many people will make the argument that survivors either don't have to work very hard to escape or that they would if they weren't carried by their perks, so with that in mind why shouldn't killers also have to work for their kills? Why should somebody's gamestate be basically already decided when they spawn in because of something the killer decided to do?
Again I repeat this argument a lot but at the very least Basement bubba requires you to catch somebody, that's way more than this asks of you to do.
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I want to try it for meme. What's the build?
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sorry I didn't bother to read your reply. I assume it highlights a bunch of obvious differences about camping require a chase and having some form of counterplay. Yeah of course.
But lets face it many games of dbd have 1 chase at most, maybe some play around a hook then everyone gets out, that's a pretty common occurance and no too different from the format of blocking a box then having some endgame chases.
Sure someone may be guarenteed to die via head trap but the solution is pretty simple... make boxes accesible from all angles solved.
If you end up facing one then play it out and move on its not the end of the world.
As I've said on other posts the amount of puritanical melodrama about gameply in DBD is rediculous. While afk pig is a thing I urge you to give it a try maybe you'll learn something about how to play around it.
Maybe you'll... god forbid... enjoy it.
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Video tape + ruleset no 2.
You can do a couple of early chases and hits but you want to find a box and just bodyblock the front of it. Then its an RNG gamble as you sit there and wait for someone's head to pop. You may get lucky and get 2-3 but I've never got more than 2 in a game.
After that play as normal as typically there will be 1-2 gens still up and only 2-3 survivors left, so build for endgame.
I usually run NOED, bloodwarden, BBQ&C, 4th is whatever you like. Perks that slow the gate opening usually require pre-req hooks to get value so they don't usually help with this set up.
The counter play is the team doesn't touch a gen till everyone has got the traps off, usually leaving one person they then 99 5 gens and pop them in rapid succesion in order to open a gate and let the trapped player get hatch for 4E/0K.
Its not very interactive but it makes for a high stakes endgame.
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It shouldn't be bannable what a gross overreaction.
It won't require nerfs either all that needs to happen is boxes can be accessed by all directions, similar to unhooks. Solved.
Till then just role with it, its pretty rare to see and not the end of the world.
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It’s not bannable but please don’t. It’s basically not playing the game and you should never get a kill by doing nothing.
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Uh, no. Did you not see the issue I myself brought up that with your ‘solution’ the pig can just hit ‘em off or even grab ‘em, regardless of the side?
It’s not at all like unhooks that take 2 seconds to do.
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fair point I guess people will just have to learn to lose sometimes and not be big babies about it till a better patch is thought up.
"ban them its not fair" is still a gross overreaction though.
I mean when you die in game you don't actually die in real life so just curb the tantrum and queue up for the next game, like an adult would.
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Cause Kills = Skills
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As someone who enjoys doing it when I need a break from toxic streamer wannabe nonsense from survivors, it absolutely should not be bannable, and if it is, then so should blendettes who never come out of hiding until the doors/hatch open.
There's inherent ingame punishment for the play style in lowered bp, loss of your rbt in later part of the game, and you'll probably depip since you won't have hooked all survivors nor really chased.
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Makes sense
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This is exactly the way to look at it. There is so much nonsense on both sides of this game that one playstyle by one specific character that you may come across once in a blue moon really isn't some toxic disaster requiring people to be banned for it.
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