Should Nurse's attacks be Special attacks?

Thats a lot of dead perks in the bloodweb for nurse. The special attack clause is and still is a massive restriction on build options. Imtroducing into nurse will homongimise her builds. I d rather a nurse running two game delay perks and carrying starstruck agitation then just 4 game dealy perks.

If you think special attack clause are good for dbd you need to play huntress and see just how many perks simply take up pointless space on the bloodweb. I ll come out and say it, balance is pointless to work towards if it kills build variety and expermentation. Nurse is the definition of excellent game design both sides have agency and counters with no clear answer or strategy to win.

The games are always dynamic never the same mindless looping tripe that many dbd players believe is somehow exciting? Your always making reads on where she will blink and increasing the difficulty of those blinks by denying los. But hey go on push another awful change it worked so well for slinger after all.

Hope we're not cherry-picking what stats we follow, SuzuKR.

People on the internet disagreed with that. Showing that people think that the devs shouldn't follow stats such as kill rates without context.

Because all perks are already viable on her, right?

Perfect balance means strongest killer apparently. They also go off of tournaments for balancing statistics so I'm not surprised.

I mean yeah, Blight counts as a special attack when lethal rushing, why would nurse's blink attacks be an exception? Especially given she's the strongest killer in the game and learning her isn't nearly as hard as people say.

What will it change? Well, the big one would be exposed perks wouldn't work. Is that a big deal? No. Because regular nurses that don't suck will down people as fast as most killers would with the exposed perks anyway.

It may hurt build diversity but there is little to no diversity when facing a Nurse. Either she's good and your options are mind gimmicks at best, or she's bad and you have another clip to your 5 views montage. Also let's face it, build diversity is a meme. You're getting corrupt and at least two extra gen regress perks with most nurses lmao.

My way of seeing it is to declare it a special attack, it can't be similar to a basic attack. I think Blight is a perfect example. While it definitely is close to a basic attack, the base ways it functions are different. Nurse's function nearly identically to a basic attack, and so I don't know why the devs should take the effort to classify it as such when it takes them months or years to change simple numbers for killers.

Yeah because God forbid the community finds a problem with the only killer that can clip through walls being able to have easy access to insta down perks as well.

We could make Nurse Lunge special and buff the named perks to compensate, for example. Like what was done with Third seal, make Surge and Sloppy work with special attacks as well. With Surge/Jolt, I think thats unproblematic, since there's still the cooldown. With Sloppy, it might be too much for certain killers (Legion) and maybe would have to be toned down a bit.

That approach would allow to nerf the problematic perk synergies (aka exposed perks), but keep the other perk synergies in tact. And it would increase the synergies of said perks with other killers.

Why give them a different effect? If you have some sloppy like addons, you are free to choose whether you want the perk and some ohter addons, or the addons and some other perk. I actually like that on Wraith, the budget sloppy addons allows you to use the perk slot for something else.

“Comp” survivors make up less than 1% of the playerbase. You can’t use the “comp” excuse as a way of making Nurse seem balanced in public matches when almost every player is casual.

And yes she does disregard all defenses even in comp matches, they just plow through gens while the killer camps. That’s a comp match. We are talking strictly public matches, ya know which is where the game should be balanced around.

There are much more extremely casual MegHeads than there are sweaty comp teams

I've seen good players in a SWF against Nurses in tournaments so I guess if there is an example of high level play in pubs I would like to see it. When it comes to balance I don't think BHVR cares too much about them though, they care more about the average player.

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omg, is this discussion of "how do we further nerf nurse but without making it obvious that we want to nerf her into the ground" still going on?

On one hand survivors are like "nerf NOED, it requires no skill", and then comes a killer that literally requires skill to get anywhere with her... and they want that nerfed too because they just don't want to learn how to juke this killer who doesn't have to walk around loops, etc.