Unfair killers

Why you so worried what other think of your gameplay?

Mmh no, no, even against Nurse it's often the teammates who are bad.

I had the leisure to "test" many survivors over the years and a lot are pretty bad. (And when these don't insult you, they mislabel you a "god" because, of course, it's the only reason they could have lost, surely?)

But then there are good survivors who understand looping, running in a straight line and dropping pallets isn't always the way and can hold their own. The interesting bit is that they are not necessarily the players with the most experience in the game.

I suspect ou are assuming that what you have experienced, as many times it may ave occurred, is the general case.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm only saying it's not a rule.

Right now the best general strategy to get a 3-4k is to tunnel out one survivor as quickly as possible (generally whoever brings CoH, or someone who already used DS on you). The pressure it puts on the survivor team to knock out the other gens starts a snowball. Even good teams will play sloppier and more rushed, which leads to more mistakes that can be taken advantage of.

Also, just to note. "Playing to have fun" and "playing to win" aren't mutually exclusive. Maybe it's because I started playing chess as a small child, but I always find the most fun in any pvp game doesn't come from being "relaxed" but from coming up with and adapting a strategy to another player who is also coming up with and adapting strategies to defeat my side. If I'm looking for a relaxed "casual" experience I play one of many single player games that don't require more strategy than figuring out what color I want to paint the fence around my tulips.

and yet kill rates are over 50% and most matches end up with a 2k plus so your story doesn't add up.

You are almost guaranteed a 2k with camping and tunnelling, especially with a one-shot killer. Camp and tunnel if you wish to win.

Killers are winning left and right but since they are not having easy matches anymore and they have to try they are complaining.

Oh yes, the kill rates.

Let me just ask 2 questions about those rates.

1. Are disconnects counted as kills? How about suicide on hook? Do those affect the rates? My gut says they do, but BHVR hasn't really confirmed one way or another, have they?

2. According to those rates, Nurse is actually the weakest killer in the game. Do you agree with that assessment, or do you feel like there is a reason behind her lack of kills? If there is a reason, then surely it's not just nurse's rate that would lack context and nuance, right?

I still don't think tunneling is best stragedy well only if you can do it very fast like in less than 2 mins but you are going to lose pips and bp. Sometimes that only ends the way that you get looped whole match and you don't apply any pressure on others who just do gens. My goal is down and hook and go for another down him and hook and then if the first guy is on hook I go back there hit unhooker and slug unhooked and down unhooker and put him on hook if the first unhooked is not revived then hook him again. This way I apply much more pressure and I can stop then for doing gens so it's most of the time much better stragedy for me than tunneling. Usually I kill first when all have been on hook at least once so everyone can still have half decent game at least.

I usually avoid the urge to do this, but it's just driving me nuts today, so sorry in advance for hurting feelings.

There is no d in the word strategy.

As far as the rest? BP I care about, but I've given up on the pip system long ago. I don't care if I pip, double pip, unpip or double unpip. I don't care if it pops. The emblem system is trash, and a relic of the past. If more end up dead than alive, I won as killer. If more end up alive than dead, I won as survivor. Far easier to judge, and it's all the mmr looks at anyway.

ummm I enjoy it too, but upload a vid of you playing casually, so we can see how it goes.

What bad game design does iron maiden counter? I get that the rest you're going to say are "gen speeds are too fast", which I am not sure I agree with, but IM? I use it on doc literally to counter survivors trying to hide from the madness.

If I could right now I would. Why do I need to provide evidence of me enjoying a game though? Is it that hard to believe a killer doesn't rage every game and actually enjoys the role they choose to play as? I get frustrated when things are out of my control (Lery's on a killer like Oni for example) and that's about it. If I get burnt out I switch builds/killers, switch to survivor, or take a break from the game.

I hope they do give rewards. I know playing competitively is not viable for most of the killer roster and they deserve that extra boost. Where did "half of the playerbase" come from though?

I understand what it happening. A lot of people complain about the competitive nature of the game and then continue to play competitively. Games are meant to be fun so don't force yourself to play.

I'm probably the only person that thinks creating a competitive and casual game mode is a good idea but the major complaints (meta, tunneling/camping, MMR) come from what seems to be casual players looking for fun complaining about competitive aspects. But the fact that there is a meta and strategies such as tunneling show that there is obviously a divide in how people want to play.