"Those" types of survivor mains are starting to notice artist...
You know? "Them" kinda survivors.
"Artist no counterplay pls nerf"
"Artist op pls nerf"
"I DC against artist nothing I can do"
Ya know the bad survivors who have their hand held through every part of the game? And just cry for nerfs whenever a killer takes skill to verse?
Welp artist it was fun playing you but I'm not gonna put days worth of playtime into another killer that's gonna get gutted in a few months time. I learned my lesson from slinger.
Legion it is. Time to stock up on Julies mixtapes to jam out every match. Free-entry raves located in house of pain featuring franks and julies mixtapes when the patch drops :)
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I noticed 2 threads on Artist came up when Otz made his 50 win streak video
Coincidence? Or is my pattern recognition brain at it again
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Not only that but I've also been seeing a LOT more artist players, I used to never see her but now there's always 1 or 2 a day.
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I can't say I've had the same experience in game lately, haven't seen one in forever it feels like
Faced a lot of Sadakos and Myers today weirdly enough.
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Couldn't the same be said for both sides? Honestly killer and survivor mains both cry and complain and keep getting each side nerfed and it's getting ridiculous I play both so I've noticed it on both sides getting stupid at this point
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Everytime a League of Legends player gets laid I see an Artist, in other words I haven't seen her since February. I legitimately forgot she was in the game at one point
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I actually did get one as survivor the other day but the most recent one before that was 112 matches prior (and yes that is an exact number). So I pretty much never see her.
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still have yet to see any artists
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It absolutely happens both sides, it just happens a lot more from the survivor side.
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You're looking for a new killer to try out? Spirit is an excellent choice! She's strong even after her last nerf and is also a blast to play.
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Survivors could say the same for killers because how many survivor perks get nerfed and how killer kill sequences have been changed and how the hatch was nerfed it's all from perspective and part of the issue is the devs just don't know how to balance and take complaints from both sides and compromise and balance. They won't start any time soon I'm sure
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That is the best analogy I've seen made on the forums bravo.
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some people definitely over exaggerate it but I can definitely sympathize for people who don't like playing against her
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Okay. I'll bite.
What IS the counterplay to Artist?
You know, aside from just running in a straight line and hoping she decides you are not worth the time investment?
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Being psychic, and knowing to equip a flashlight before the match starts. Also hoping they forgot to equip DMS at the loadout screen, that works too
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She needs nerfs. I've been saying this since she released.
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At loops: Baiting birds, making rational choices when to cross crow paths and mindgaming her.
Away from loops: Baiting directions, lockers, more mindgames.
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Unfortunately, both sides are getting nerfed, but not in the way they need. The game is still really cut-throat, making players optimise the fun out of the gameplay.
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Killers side gets nerfed more than Surv side
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They also get buffed more. There's more mechanical content there, so it's going to attract more balance changes.
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Killers are far more varied than survivors, when they nerf a single killer, it doesn't affect the rest of the killers, when you nerf a single survivor thing it nerfs the entire survivor player base, regardless of what anyone on this forum wants to talk about it makes absolute sense that killers see more nerfs / buffs than survivors as each killer is an individual unlike survivors.
This argument about killers getting more nerfs is getting so boring.
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How do you bait birds? By running back into the killer and getting M1'd?
How can you make "rational choices" on when to cross crow paths when all she has to do is press a button to fire them at you?
I'm playing devils advocate here because i don't care whether she is nerfed or buffed or stays the same, but the counters sound like, run into her and hope she doesn't fire her crows at you.
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They're gonna nerf Artist to Doodler
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You already know how it goes... It is embarrassing how they had the nerves to nerf deathslinger, a killer far from the top. It's like they want only blights and nurses to have fun in this fkin game. They don't learn either, fixing haddonfield cuz every1 complained but they still make extremely survivor sided maps like eye of crowns. They won't ever learn. This game is flawed to its core.
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It may be getting boring but that still doesnt stop surv from saying that killers always get their way, the game is killer sided, or better yet how they want every killer to get nerfed instead of learning and applying tactics.
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We dont get buffed as much as you think, If so then almost every killer would be up to Nurse or Blight level of pressure
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I'm starting to play artist more, as well as branching out into doctor and nemesis, but when playing artist I feel bad sometimes cause you just can't loop her correctly.
I place a crow at a pallet and they get hit by me or a crow.
They have no option most of the time other than hold w.
Isn't this the same reason they nerfed Pyramid head that one time.
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Have you actually seen this forum?
Both sides say the absolute opposite of each other all the time, killers constantly say "oh X is nerfed what will survivors complain about now", and survivors go "Oh x is nerfed, what will killers complain about now".
Killers constantly say the game is survivor sided, and survivors say the same, and with all this, despite survivors and killers both getting changes, each side demands more and more, or moves onto the next thing, it isn't a one sided thing and you'd be very biased to say otherwise.
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The devs are 100% going to nerf Mommy in an upcoming Chapter, maybe even in the Anniversary Chapter
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You can bait birds by seemingly running into the flight path, then quickly dodging back out and/or running forward. TL walls are a great example of how the artist must consider baits and how a survivor plays before firing + any time she does a blind 8m crow shot. If you predicted wrong you get hit, if you predicted right you just run past the crow.
Rational choices can be made because crows have travel time and can be dodged given you didn't let her completely shut down the loop (which at that point you should've W keyed). Assuming you're swarmed and are running away it'll take around 0.65s for the crow to reach your location assuming you're 20ish meters away. You can easily stay out of the crows line of fire or even better try and bait the crows out due to their travel time.
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1, The game is surv sided whether you can comprehend it or not and is not up for debate.
2, Forum or no Forum, majority of complaints arent even about nerfs, its about how some tactics are either "broken" ,"unbeatable" ,"unfun" ,"not fair" as we see in this damn post.
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Mind pairing that with Susie's? Also they should really make the adjustable music unlockable toggles like the Bubba masks.
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You are probably right. A big streamer does well with a killer wich in it self lead some people to demand nerfs and often it leads to an increase of of this killer being played. To be honest every time I see someone using otz as an example here in the forums I just stop reading. We can't and we shouldn't use people like him as an example and just because he has a certain view on a killer or perk it's not automatically right
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Why, exactly? There's nothing nerf worthy about her
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As soon as she summons the bird, hold W to another pallet. You will have enough distance to make it and you did not waste the pallet.
Also yes, the bird hitbox is awful it’s very easy to bait.
The Artist is strong because survivors are bad, same thing with Pinhead. Try to do this 50 winstreak yourself and come back to tell us how you did.
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nah wraith is the perfect choice he's still strong even after his nerf and is very fun to play :)
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People have been saying this about her since release though
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You have more than a thousand posts in these forums, so I'm pretty sure you know what you just said isn't true.
I see way more threads asking for survivor nerfs, than threads asking for killer nerfs.
Either way, all those threads are just made by people who just aren't good at the game and would rather get everything nerfed so they can get free kills and free escapes.
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Artist is fine with the sole exception of Dead Man’s Switch and her ability to force survivors off gens at unlimited range. If she gets a nerf it would probably be to limit the range she can damage a survivor to reduce the effectiveness of that combo. (They could probably limit her crow damage range to 30 meters and she’d still be just as powerful as normal outside of that Dead Man’s Switch combo.)
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Flight Path crow is 7.5m, she is will not inflict any damage past this, except if you are already swarmed (and it takes few seconds to remove the swarm).
I mean...do you guys really understand how her power works before asking for nerfs ?
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Don't mind me, just verifying that this comment contains 100% factual information.
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I perfectly understand how it works, do YOU understand how it works in combo with Dead Man’s Switch? It’s pretty simple
- Artist hooks someone, triggers Dead Man’s Switch.
- Shoot crows at three generators, if survivors dodge the crows to avoid being swarmed the gen is blocked for a while. If they stay on the gen they get swarmed.
- If someone is swarmed at a gen, fire another crow at them a few seconds later. Now they either get damaged which forces them off the gen anyway or they get off it to avoid the damage, either way the gen is blocked for the remainder of Dead Man’s Switch
- Meanwhile the Artist never even has to leave the hook. She can literally stand and guard it the full duration of the Dead Man’s Switch and force the survivor to lose at least one hook stage while simultaneously blocking gens. (The main weakness of camping a hook is the other survivors can freely work on gens while you do it. But this combo negates that problem for Artist, she can camp and still block gens at any range this way.)
Maybe you should watch some videos of people using this combo in this way before saying I don’t know what I’m talking about?
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In that scenario, what exactly is stopping the survivors from paying attention and just letting go of the gen before their teammate is hooked, waiting for the Birdy to fly by, and then getting back on? I mean, that's what I do, and it works every time without the gen being blocked.
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Again, watch a video of a killer doing it. You stay off a gen during the carry (which is already slowing down your progress), and wait for the first crow to fly by. You get on the gen, a few seconds later another crow. You work through it, a third crow and now the gen is blocked for the rest of the duration and all you’ve gotten done on it so far is the time between the first and third crow at most. Meanwhile a survivor is at least stage two or worse dead on hook.
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Here, I found a good example
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So now Instead of sending crows to 3 different gens, they are sending them all to just the 1 gen. Meanwhile you've got 2 teammates who wouldn't be getting any crows because the cooldown.
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Im not wasting 30 minutes of my one day off this week watching some streamer, do you at least have a timestamp?
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So she has to use all her crows on 1 gen far away that is going to be blocked and not regress, meanwhile the others can rescue and do others gens.
She is not Bubba you know, face camping won't work against good survivors, you can rescue at any moment with BT. And if you do it before DMS end, she won't get another DMS and now you can genrush as much as you want.
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Artist with that build honestly has zero counterplay. Inability to do the objective, it is worse than old Undying.
I think this proves Boil Over needs another nerf. Need to make sure killers can do their objective very easily.
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To be fair, she is another killer that is not much fun to play against, at least in my opinion (though it seems this is a pretty popular opinion). In fact a lot of killers post Oni are some of the last fun to play against imo... I miss 2019 DBD so much
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Ok at this point you’re just willfully not understanding how it works I think, and you obviously didn’t watch the video I posted as an example either.
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