Four man mori rancor... doable or not?
I've actually tried to do the challenge that Ohtofu is trying... without any success. Do you guys think it is possible or not? The main problem i have is that i have to give back some air to the survivors... and then it comes biting me in the back everytime. I could have easily got rid of multiple survivor before endgame... but then, i just can't kill them all "one after the other". There is always one survivor that open that damn door.
Edit: i managed to get three man mori with rancor in endgame. But the last one categorically refused to stun me. I hooked him. I'm tired. But, yeah, it is doable. By the way, my build on Pig was rancor/ nemesis/ no way out/ knock-out (i was add-on less on azarov wretched shop).
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Its possible. never seen anyone do it. but just the fact that nemesis(perk) exist makes it possible
someone will do it eventually
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Actually, Monto did it. But it is because the last survivors gave it to him. So i ain't sure that counts.
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Its possible but hard to pull off
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I've tried it three times now, playing Pig and running the same build OhTofu is. First attempt I had two survivors DC as they were about to be Moried, while the other two escaped. Second attempt I Moried two, one actually died to their RBT (as I was doing the first Mori!), and the last survivor got the hatch right in front of me. The third I got one Mori, again another RBT death, and two escapes.
I think it's possible, but it takes the exact combination of things to go right and a lot of luck to pull off. Hiding that you have Rancor (by avoiding switching the Obsession with Nemesis until the last possible moment) I think is key to make it work.
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Well, if I was to try, I’d go with Bubba.
Build: Rancor, Nemesis, Play With Your Food, and No Way Out
Play for the 4 Stacks of No Way Out and doing so by doing your best to trigger as few pallet drops as possible. Collect 3 Tokens of PWYF before final gen pop. Have line of sight or be in chase with Obsession.
- Final Gen Pop
- Use super sonic speed and 1 shot chainsaw ability to end chase immediately and Kill with Rancor. You lose 1 token of PWYF.
- No Way Out procs when exit gate switch is touched GIVING A LOUD NOISE NOTIFICATION and 48 extra seconds.
- Hunt second Survivor, most likely the one touching gate, use speed to pressure survivor to loop with pallet and ride survivor till they are compelled to throw pallet on head.
- Nemesis triggers, obsession changes, PWYF triggers and regains stack for speed.
- Quickly 1 Shot Down with Chainsaw, losing 1 stack of PWYF and then repeat for all Rancor Kills.
Best way I can think to try. What are you and OhTofu using?
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OhTofu's current build is playing Pig with Rancor, Nemesis (to change the Obsession with a pallet stun or flashlight blind), No Way Out, and Remember Me (to stall the exit gate openings as long as possible). The add-ons are the Crate of Gears (to make searching the Jigsaw boxes take longer) and Rules Set No. 2 (to make it where survivors can't see the boxes until the trap is active, with the idea that they'll pop the last gen with a trap on rather than waste time looking for the boxes and not look to escape immediately, giving you more time to change Obsessions and get the Mories).
ETA: I think the issue with using Bubba is going to be that survivors may be more willing to pre-throw pallets against a Bubba left and right, potentially leaving you with too few to change Obsessions when you need to. One of OhTofu's recent attempts, he was on The Game, and they'd used so many pallets by Endgame, he was having trouble getting stunned (and the survivors seemed to know what was up and were pre-throwing everything -- going against a full-on SWF makes the challenge that much harder).
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I'm going to say that it's basically never going to happen unless the survivors give it to you.
Rancor is only active when the exit gates are powered and since in order to mori survivors with rancor you need to switch obsession with a perk and currently there's no way to switch obsession to a survivor in dying state, you basically can't slug. So once you start to mori one survivor the rest will just open the exit gate and leave because you are stuck in the mori animation.
Even if you try to stall the exit gates being opened with perks like remember me and no way out, you still have to deal with the hatch too since unlike the hook dying animation you are stuck in place until the mori animation finishes and then the hatch immediately opens giving you no time to locate the last survivor.
Not to mention with Nemesis you need to be pallet stunned so if survivors drain pallets early into the game or start pre-dropping once they realize you are doing Nemesis + Rancor, you'll have a harder time getting that 4K rancor mori.
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I thought that, since i didn't have that much difficulty getting evil incarnate, that i could do it after a few attempts. But getting a 4k mori rancor is way harder... even if the problem to getting them are of the same nature.
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Evil Incarnate at least can be done before gens are finished. Which helps keep survivors from just leaving while you are moring a survivor. It's still difficult but at least if you mori a survivor with a gen or two left you can snowball into the 4k. There's no snowball potential with rancor since the gens are already done.
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Yeah, you're right. I'll try Ohtofu's complete build next. But i think it is a lost cause. Maybe i'll try to just get four man moris then.
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It's technically possible, but realistically impossible
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Even if you get two off, by then the other two will realise what’s going on and stop trying to stun you. They’d really need to give it to you if you want a full 4-mori game.
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Well, evil incarnate kinda have the same issue... but it is doable.
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Well yes, but Rancor only triggers when the gates have been powered. By that alone, you got substantially less time to get it going.
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That's for sure. I'll give it a few more tries... i guess. But i think i'll have to find another challenge. I'm really tempted to try getting four man moris on all killers. Seems more doable for a challenge.
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I think that's the only way it is possible to get. If you're a survivor and you see 3 other survivors get mori'd you know not to stun the killer or you'll get mori'd. Most players would just give up and give the killer a hook instead.
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That is not exactly what i meant. The survivor opened the door, but came back to give him the last mori. That's why that is debattable.
Edit: Nevermind... he did got it legit. Luckily. But legit.
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Technically it is.
You would need the survivors to cooperate though.
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The other advantage with Evil Incarnate is that teabaggers can 'help' you get the achievement. That is such a fond memory for me.
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Pretty sure RapidMain did it, though I might be imagining things. I watch too many content creators.
Regardless, it would take a ton of luck, even if you're the best killer on earth.
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I tried it with Remember me/ NOED or Knock-Out... but nothing works for me. Even map offerings. I can drop a nuke on the survivors head... they somehow counter it. I'm amazed actually. I'll try one last iteration of the build (Indoor map/ Knock-Out/ rules set n°2/ jigsaw's sketch)... after that i'm done.
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Does the wiggle out stun trigger Nemesis? If so then it should be just a matter of slugging everyone then then taking them out one by one.
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you have to have enough ways to stun you at endgame and a way to stop them from just leaving.
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No, this doesn't work unfortunately. I need to slug everyone and make them stun me one by one with a pallet.
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Oof, should have known it couldn't be that easy.
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Well, i managed to get three man mori with rancor. I couldn't get the fourth one to stun me unfortunately. I hooked him. The friggin bastard!
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