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Oni Is OP. Thoughts?

Just my opinion but I'd like to get others to weigh in. From my perspective, he's OP because:

- his ability charges up extremely fast.

- he can do 90 degree turns while using his ability (I used to play Oni and I swear this wasn't possible back in 2020. Was this a recent buff?)

- he practically knows where you are at all times if you're injured since the red orbs you omit can be seen by him

So you can't really loop him for that long (unless you're on a map that totally negates his movement) and you can't really hide from him if youre injured. And that's not even considering the perks that he'd have equipped.

Thoughts?

Comments

  • WeenieDog
    WeenieDog Member Posts: 2,184
    edited April 2022

    I think he's strong, but nothing more then that. I can see how he could be seen as overwhelming in solo, because he's a killer that you really have to starve in the early game and like Myers, can be heavily punished for the teams mistakes. You have to just trust that your teammates realize:

    what tiles he can use his power and what tiles he can't

    when he's going to charge and fake one direction on the loop but will actually go the other

    just sit in a locker/ hide to wait out his power

    or if they know they are going down, to jump into a locker to kick him out of his power


    and I think a lot of the killers that people tend to view as overpowered are killers that require team play to deal with.

  • SuzuKR
    SuzuKR Member Posts: 3,910

    No. Split up, play safe early to deny his first hit for as long as possible (he can only 99 with passive gain), hide as necessary, learn where his power is difficult to apply properly.

  • SuzuKR
    SuzuKR Member Posts: 3,910

    Uh, no. Oni can do stuff like 540° flicks by default. Also, 90° flicks are literally intended.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
    edited April 2022

    I play oni since release as main and I can confirm the turns has been always possible.

    And no you only see blood orbs at close range, the orbs give you only in rare occasions the position of a survivor. Oni can be very strong against a team that basicly give him the blood too easily but you can say the same to plague for example then. As long as you and your team are playing save and deny his blood a oni is very much beatable.

  • Firellius
    Firellius Member Posts: 4,384

    It had a turn rate limitation back when I played. Unless you're talking about the wind-up before the dash, in which case, yeah, he can adjust as fast as he can move his cursor. But once he's dashing, he can only veer, not hook or flick, IIRC.

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 6,898

    He’s good but he’s not op.

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,564

    Basically everything you said only applies IF you get injured which is why he isn't OP. He isn't even in the top 5 killers in the game.

    Everyone has an opinion which is fair 👍 at low ranks he definitely is very strong

  • Chocolate_Cosmos
    Chocolate_Cosmos Member Posts: 5,735

    If Oni is OP, then Blight is automatic lose for Survivors on every game no metter the player.

    Now to answer your question - No. He is totaly not OP. I wouldn't mind even buffing him a little bit.

  • MaTtRoSiTy
    MaTtRoSiTy Member Posts: 1,932

    Oni is definitely not OP, if you are a team of good survivors then you can completely deny him of his power and turn him into nothing but an M1 killer. Any killer that can be denied their power by the survivors is never going to be top tier, Oni relies on survivors giving him easy hits early on so he can snowball.

    Against potato survivors Oni can be very strong but then so are most killers but against survivors who play it safe and deny him free hits an Oni is not going to have an easy time

  • Marigoria
    Marigoria Member Posts: 6,090

    Not OP at all. Like someone said if he is doing a 90 turn degree he was probably hacking.

  • SuzuKR
    SuzuKR Member Posts: 3,910

    I meant flicking at the moment of smashing. For instance, zooming past a wall and flicking 90 to hit someone to the side. While rushing without attacking, yeah, you can only turn normally.

  • Firellius
    Firellius Member Posts: 4,384

    Yeah, I understood 'he can turn 90 degrees while using his ability' as an Oni literally making a 90 degree turn while dashing, rather than doing a flick-bonk.

  • The_Krapper
    The_Krapper Member Posts: 3,259

    No onis power can be used to strafe as well it's not a hack they just have the camera turned in the right way where the collision isn't picking up and you're gliding on the wall facing the direction the loop is going in and then whenever you get to the edge I can turn my mouse and literally run in a "U" if I do it right

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611

    Oni is far from OP. He's one of the most balanced killers in the game.

  • DragonMasterDarren
    DragonMasterDarren Member Posts: 2,844

    The most OP thing that Oni has is being able to do a demon strike early, and even then, if it wasn't there then Demon Strike would be mostly useless due to how long the full wind-up actually is and how laughably easy it is to 360

    A good Oni is terrifying, but far from overpowered

  • Senpai_J
    Senpai_J Member Posts: 62

    I was watching oni tournament footage because non top tier killers are rare to see there.

    People pretty much just played extremely safe with pallets, without his power by the time oni got his first hit the last gen was about to pop.

    Idk I feel like the current op killers wouldn’t get destroyed by pre-dropping pallets like that.

  • Sludge
    Sludge Member Posts: 768

    He's not as OP as Wraith I can tell you that much

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    I am always amazed at how people complain about Blight hits, but Oni goes around rocks and corners like nothing but oh noes Blight bad.

  • The_Krapper
    The_Krapper Member Posts: 3,259

    Oni truly is underrated with his strafe ability , he can run loops right with a survivor if it's done right

  • MrPeanutbutter
    MrPeanutbutter Member Posts: 1,586

    Oni is actually not very good. I almost never see him in my survivor matches and there’s probably a reason for that. Sure, there are a few really good Oni players out there, but your average killer player typically struggles with him based on my experience.

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    Just play safe at the start, hes a basic attack killer and really easy to loop as it. He only becomes good if people feed him his power early on.

    Also he can only flick 90° well hes meant to, so that makes looping certain tiles pretty easy providing you loop them differently to normal.

    He can be good in his power, but certainly not OP

  • JeanCharpentier
    JeanCharpentier Member Posts: 370
    edited April 2022

    Op because there is an exploit allowing 180 turn with his power (not 90 degree but 180 degree is possible).

    Without that exploit he is too weak, on par with Billy.

    Well it needs a rework.

  • RenRen
    RenRen Member Posts: 1,443

    No. He can be denied his power for a really long time and he can't get his power unless he gets a blood orb an m1 as his power bar goes to 99 but not full. Also the charge rate is really, really slow. Tbh I think he needs a rework. It feels like whenever I play oni, I either stomp the survivors or get stomped. There is no in between.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Personally I put him on par with Hillbilly. Basically when Oni is powered up he’s an objectively stronger Hillbilly, he moves just as fast but with better maneuverability and has a bit of an easier time hitting with his instant down attack. On the other hand that’s only when he’s powered up, so in the first part of the match when he’s just a basic attack killer he’s weaker. So I guess whether he’s better or worse than Hillbilly depends mainly on how much time he spends being powered down and how much he gains back powered up. I could see reasonable people arguing either way.