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Can I get a clarification, is the new SBMM being worked on gonna be more lax/less strict?
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Currently on a break from DBD, games been a complete stale recently.
I currently dont play killer, I dont see the point when half the roster cant complete to the players I'm versing especially with their full stacked meta.
I mainly play survivor now but even this is a drag, I see hardly any killers but nurse and blight and why I dont mind versing any killer or perk its boring only seeing these 2 90%+ of my games.
I want to know if the game will be less strict in mmr, I'm not even talking about the unbalanced maps which is an issue I just want to know if things will change.
As an off peak EU player, any longer queue times will make me quit and honestly if something dont change I'll just drop the game for good as killer is no fun and survivor has no rarity.
Looking for a clarification so I know what to expect
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They’re making the brackets tighter, so instead of say players within 500 you’ll face players within 250 of you, but they’re also lowering the soft maximum cap so instead of, say, anybody over 2000 being treated as a 2000 it’s instead anybody over 1500 is treated as a 1500. (I’m just making up numbers here obviously.)
So if you’re in the average player brackets you’ll be matched against other similarly average players more often. But if you’re a very high rated player you’ll have a bit of a broader pool of players in that very high rated bracket to go against.
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So it will basically depend how much they lower the cap.
The current cap was leaked as 1900 (I'll use this and I know I'm maxed) and if the pairing use to be 500 I could be matched with 1400
So if the new system is pairing within 250 I need the cap to be at least 1750 just to achieve the same form of match?
I would assume all this focuses peak time so take some salt for as I'm off peak
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Yeah, it’s impossible to say obviously how this would impact you exactly not knowing the actual numbers, but that sounds about right. Where before you were say 1900+ and getting matched down to 1400+ now you’re effectively 1700+ getting matched down to 1400-1500+, something like that? So it could more or less be a wash if you’re at the cap. (The article didn’t mention the percentage of players at the soft cap but I’m assuming it’s high enough that it only applies to something like 10% or less of players.)
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Yeah see that worries me, I know I'll be at the cap just because I "win" slot but I was kinda hoping game would become more fun so I would be encouraged to play more.
I feel if the new cap isnt changed enough people at the top wont see a change.
I was actually wrong in my comment I just realised the current can match 1900 to 1400 but the new would only match 1650 to 1400 due to it being 250 pairing not 500.
I feel this will be great for all players except those at the top once again (unless the cap is lowered enough)
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To be fair, nothing really stops you from "playing for fun", if you play for fun and happen to lose in the process your MMR will go down and you'll face people who playing that way is a more reasonable matchup. (Or if you happen to keep winning playing that way then great!)
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Yeah but sadly shared mmr exists, I dont have the strength in me to endure deranking my mmr for each killer till I can play in a fun way with them.
It's why I just dont play killer, because even if I went through all that hassle theres alot of rng on maps and getting a 2k should be a draw not a win
Besides just the thought of the toxicity I'd get for playing in a fun way and just get BM through the whole match multiple times in a row... I also get players that die to EGC on purpose, even had cheaters doing it so some games even if I "lost" I still win because they control it
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Could you explain what you mean with: "I feel this will be great for all players except those at the top once again (unless the cap is lowered enough)"
Do you mean let's say 1900 is the cap now and you are there you want the cap to be 1600 so you get more players under your lvl
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Actually I believe one of the devs commented recently that "shared mmr" isn't a thing, your individual killers do have individual rankings. The only time "shared MMR" happens is when you play a killer for the first time it sets that killer's initial rating to be something correlated to the ratings of your other killers. But after that that killer's rating moves independently of your other killers. (Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt though, if I'm misremembering what I believe Mandy or Peanits said someone will probably link to the actual quote.)
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he wants to be sitting at 2000 rating while he plays with people that has less than a hundred.
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So basically it will be old rank 1. Where the skill ranged from complete potato's to gods and veteran killers enjoyed like 95% win rates. The game has come full circle and MMR accomplished almost nothing
The games will be more "laid back" as you rack up your 100+ streak on meta nurse again
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I doubt the bracket goes down to "complete potatoes". It's probably more like the old ceiling affected 5-10% of players and the new ceiling impacts 8-15% of players or something along those lines. I could be wrong but I'd be surprised if the ceiling isn't set high enough that the great bulk of the playerbase is below it.
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I have a feeling these alterations will change nothing. When survivors are waiting long enough, fairness is sacrificed for speed. No matter the system it can't work if there aren't enough killers to go around.
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It sounds like its gonna be more strict but create sections that people will play in around their skill level......
so its just ranks again
but without the ranks, just a free feeling of emptyness
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Their biased wording in the blogpost points to changes being meaningless at best, harmful at worst.
"Tough" versus "Unfair"
"Competitive" versus "Unfair"
"Lower-mid skill who, understandably, don't want to get destroyed by high skill players", versus:
"High skill players who want more variety in their matches." Where is the word understandably here, why even put it anywhere in the blogpost in the first place? It just shows that at least the writer leans towards one side of the argument.
Maybe I'm just reading too much into this, but I've studied my fair share of texts at university. I think anyone would be able to pick this out if they looked a little closer.
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All those super good killers that are absolutely destroying any and all opposition with the rare exception of a super sweaty and competitive squad bringing 4 BNPs where they actually have to turn on their brains for five seconds will have easier matches! Aren't you happy more people that shouldn't be facing them will now become their fodder? After all, killers are always complaining about the game being survivor sided, so why not buff the strongest killers? Make sense right? Just like in hockey!
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Idk about anyone else, but I'd at least like to be able to see my own mmr with the upcoming update.
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No, but nice try.
I'll try explain the best I can, this can be abit difficult to get across clearly but I'll try.
The current SBMM matches people within 500 bracket, the mmr cap is 1900, this means currently a 1900 can match with a 1400 (while this is rare it can still happen)
With the new proposed changes the new SBMM will match people within 250, this means matches will be closer together so newer players will be matched with people closer and people middle of the road will be closer.
However at the highest level you can only go down, while before you could go down 500 it's now only 250 meaning if a player wants to see a 1400 in the new system the mmr cap needs to be 1650.
If the cap doesnt change to that low then people at the cap will actually have a smaller range of players than they currently do. And although people like to deny it the game isnt balanced for high level especially for most of the killers.
That is my concern, I already avoid killer because it's hard to have a fun match in the lobbies I get (mmr cap, off peak and playing weaker killers)
Survivors I dont care about difficulty as it's a 4v1 and survivor is usually very easy for me but then it's the issue of versing limited killers and the game getting boring.
Summary: better matches for all players except the top who get matched with less. This is just theory of the info they have shared atm
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Yeah each killer have separate mmr but when a new one is released or at the very start they all had the shared mmr.
So a new killer for me will be based of all my others for example and others that I dont play much had the shared mmr from the start.
Like I said I dont play much killer because it's not fun, while I know some of them are placed too high and I should get them lowered I dont wanna go through that effort if that makes sense?
Sorry if I haven't explained it well
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Ah Okey I think I get what you mean and that's a fair point. But wouldn't your proposal then keep it like it is now that I can just be unlucky and get the high mmr squad
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No I feel lower the bracket to 250 is fine, it's great way to improve the majority of matches however playing at the top is very boring or unfun for either role and that can only really be changed if the cap is lowered.
What they're doing is a step in the right direction in terms of how their SBMM works but that cap HAS to be brought down a decent amount to improve the game at the higher level.
Basically high mmr survivors want to see more killers, high mmr killers want to feel like they can have more fun even if they play a weaker killer etc.
It's impossible to balance for all levels and the low-mid will take priority in BHVR eyes
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Yeah for me the fact that there are killer that just can't compete is crazy on it own I think that shouldn't be but that's a controversial thing
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Well luckily the majority dont have that experience, I dont agree with it either but when theres alot of RNG within the game itself it can be hard to balance things correctly.
When that DH change drops though I feel things will change for the better and I'm kinda excited for both roles. As survivor I'll see more killers (hopefully, they cant be hurt by DH so much) and I can play and killer without worrying about 3+DHs lol
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Hopefully it gets better atm I think they need to put a warning on most killer before you buy them like caution after getting to good and climbing to much this killer will get worthless :D
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