Question for Killer mains

Kindred, Windows, Spine Chill, *exhaustion perk of choice*

can sub the exhaustion perk slot for one of the meta perks survivors just can't exist without apparently, but the first three cover most of the solo queue weaknesses, while nothing can really be offensively exploitable.

I like pretty much any exhaustion Perk that isnt Dead Hard (because stupidly overpowered) / Sprint Burst (because holding W is not very enticing gameplay), Kindred, Iron Will, Decisive Strike, any Boon that isnt CoH (because stupidly overpowered), We'll Make It, ...

the ones i dislike are certainly a minority. I generally dislike Perks that are either way too good (e.g. DH or CoH) or promote an, in my opinion, unhealthy playstyle (e.g. BT or Resilience).

-Windows

I think Deadhard _could_ be if it either lost some distance or the I-frames because as a whole I think the idea of a last ditch lunge to safety is exciting

-deja vu: needed less the higher you go but nobody likes getting 3 gen'd

-Kindred

As a killer, i'm mostly indifferent unless you're running multiple meta perks and being toxic or to be toxic. I don't think a lot of killers care too much as long as you aren't toxic.

Bt, kindred, lithe, small game

Hey gamer, survivor and killer perk metas achieve two different things right now:

Survivor meta perks either undo mistakes, force the killer into a mistake, or a combination of the two. Killer meta perks generally slow the game down so they have enough time to actually accomplish their task of killing survivors of all skill levels. Right now it could be argued (and i will argue, at length) that survivor meta perks have almost no downsides to their activation and killer meta perks have a bunch of downsides. Or rather than say no downsides, they activate normally over the course of play with things that you would expect to happen.

Dead Hard erases a mistake and almost always prevents a killer from getting a down with the validation buff. This leads to more time chasing and more time for teammates on gens. DS is supposed to make killers wary of singling out a survivor after hook. BT allows for bodyblocking the rescuer (and therefore more time wasted on not doing something you naturally want to do as a killer). CoH makes survivors self sufficient and even more altruistic. Bodyblock someone? It's all good, you have unlimited resources. Other scenarios like boil over/breakout/sabo squads do pretty much the same thing but require coordination so I count them as SWF only. Iron Will is 100% silence at all times while injured and the only perk counter was nerfed so now you have to worry about door checks and all that fun stuff in a chase on the offchance the sound engine craps itself and removes their footsteps and normal breathing as well. The common theme to me with these is that there are no real drawbacks. Sprint Burst, touted as a lot of survivors as being "just as good as DH" doesn't show up often enough to support that. But with sprint burst, killers certainly don't feel dumb when they've cornered a survivor only to just have them dash out of the way and throw a pallet on you. You basically catch up to the guy fairly and you get your down.

Killer perks on the other hand all have downsides. Corrupt intervention has a timer and doesn't prevent every generator from being done, it just means you won't have something pop within 30 seconds of the game starting... usually. Deadlock slows people down but their progress is still there, and you have to basically start losing for it to gain benefit. STBFL can lose stacks hitting the wrong person. Hexes can be snuffed out, or worse... replaced with a boon. There's not a single perk that I can think of as a killer main where you gain its benefit permanently and it exists as a hindrance to survivors.

So with that said, when I look at "non-toxic survivor perks" I look at ones that do something similar to the meta perks and have a downside. Power struggle is decisive strike that uses a resource up and is pretty funny when it happens. For the People/Soul Guard means I now have someone who's broken I can chase and get a down on them. Head-On is an exhaustion perk that means I know I can chase someone fairly after they've used it. Kindred gives everyone wallhacks but the downside is you're on a hook so it leads either to gen progress or evading the killer on a rescue mission. These are examples of perks that feel fair to me as killer because the wasted time comes at a cost. BT is boring because it's 12 seconds of doing nothing as the killer. Dead Hard is frustrating because a fish you caught just slipped out of your hands. DS is boring because right now if COH is on the field and you don't tunnel someone, you're probably gonna have a bad time.

anyway hope this helps gamer.

In my Survivor games I've been running a pretty solid heal build of Autodidact, Empathic Connection, Empathy, and Renewal. It's not hard to get those first two tokens since you and the injured can see one another, and healing someone else gets you Renewal if you get hooked.

DH is isn't a problem for me, I can countered It most of the moments. Boon also don't makes me complain about something. Of course, sometimes both of them is a bad thing, but I don't have nothing to say about it