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David: Ignoring the opinion of the community
I feel totally deceived. My opinion is that such important information about any characters shouldn't be thought up and added to the lore after years of this character already being in the game! That is so forced, unnatural, you just have chosen one of the survivors and started to rewrite the whole his life!
You know, that´s really unfair. As a woman, I´ve just lost my favorite male survivor. I think that having some ideal characters, maybe even sexualized is OK in videogames, so why the hell you are don´t take care of the female part of your community???
I understand the needs of LGBTQIA2+ community, but you could make for them a new character so that your changes wouldn´t inflict the current fan base of any already existing survivor.
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Why does it matter to you that David is gay?
Like, why does that mean you've "lost" him?
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"I, as a woman, am now angry that the LGBT+ community have valid representation for it means I can no longer sexualise the character" babes do you realise how DERANGED this sounds
Grass is needed and ASAP
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Oh no how unfortunate... How are you gonna sexualize the fictional character since he wouldn't be attracted to you irl now?
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That character is from 2017 and just now suddenly he is now gay.
It does feel forced and it is.
They should make a new character. Why not making the next character gay on 6th year of DbD? Idk.
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"I've known my friend since 2017 and just now suddenly he is now gay
It does feel forced and it is
His parents should make a new child instead. Why not making the next child gay? Idk."
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Because all the years I play this game I was considering David a straight man. And the lore, where was mentioned his ex-girlfriend, was also confirming that.
So yes, it matters a lot for me, that now all I believed about David is just ruined. I already was a fan of David, and BEhaviour should just make a completely new character gay he will also have his own fan base! I mean, it looks like taking a toy from one child to giving it to another one for no reason!!!
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If they want to make him gay, fine. Then how about wait for his new lore in tome to come out? Nope.
If it was suddenly in his new lore (and it will be there I am sure) then it wouldn't feel forced, at least not much. This feels like it was like "Oh we need gay character ASAP... Ehmmm... David? Yea, sure."
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I don't get how yall can say this is "forced" when sexuality wasn't even a mentioned trait for David.
So why does it matter? Literally nothing is lost, and nothing is gained besides representation of a group that faces regular oppression in the world.
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David's just not that into you.
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Man, that´s the same as poor Dumbledore in Harry Potter! Doesn't it feel forced that he is suddenly gay 10 years after the last book was written???
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Women can be part of the LGBT community. I know, weird. This seems to be a straight person problem.
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Actually Dumbledoor is forced because there's no canon material on it until Fantastic Beasts 2. David is still receiving more and more canon material to support this. So no, it's not forced but nice try.
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Straight women are starving over here
"Last year we had 15 presumably straight male survivors, now it's only 14!"
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I know they can be- sorry if it came across like that wasn't the case. I worded it how I did because OP said, "As a woman, I´ve just lost my favorite male survivor. I think that having some ideal characters, maybe even sexualized is OK in videogames, so why the hell you are don´t take care of the female part of your community???"
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"Poor Dumbledore."
Oh the humanity; he's gay. A true tragedy.
The reason Dumbledore feels forced is because JK Rowling has expressed queerphobic views before, and is a TERF which is directly opposed to LGBTQ+ ideals. So the fact that Dumbledore is gay feels ungenuine because it comes from an ungenuine source.
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You know, people never mention their sexuality irl at the first meet, or it is never mentioned in the first line of their lore. But this is implied by indirect causes and usually, you can figure it out. For example, you can take a look at whom they are dating
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Kind of a big difference there.
On one hand we have an author who, after she already finished the series says "well, this character was gay the whole time, even though I never did anything, wrote anything or in any way supported that idea in the actual books"
On the other we have a game where lore about each character is given out piecemeal, where after working with GaymerX for over a year, decided that the next reveal for David's lore is his sexuality.
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I honestly don't see the issue with David being gay and then it "ruining" the "straight woman" thing.
People always just assumed he was straight and it did not ruin it for gay people. People don't have an issue with making wraith/nurse gay when they are straight when they write fanfiction or make art, so I don't see why straight people can't just do the same and move on.
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You know, i dont agree with it either, they could of made a new character and such.
but the way you worded it is kind of disgusting,
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It is definitely weird
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Thank you really much ❤️, at least someone understands how frustrating I feel with this news
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jesus christ what is wrong with you
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There are cases of gay men dating or even marrying women. This is done because:
A) The person may not have had the resources to understand what they're feeling due the stigmatization of gay people and the lack of resources to study it.
B) To prevent emasculation, due to toxic masculinity disowning homosexuality. David King is known to do brawls and collect debts. Toxic masculinity dictates these are "manly" things to do (physical altercations) but also disowns homosexuality as being emasculating. David probably dated a girl to prevent discovery and keep a reputation in the ring.
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I would say y'all need Jeebus, but he didn't do too much for LGBTQIA+ acceptance when he was alive and his biggest fans are kinda dicks about the whole thing so...
Y'all need Big Gay Al.
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Yeah, I´m sorry if someone doesn´t like how I said this. I´m just really angry and still trying my best to be polite
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As a gay man I see this stuff a lot, Turning characters different sexualities like flicker of a lightbulb. its dissapointing that they did it this way. but mabye the tome will make it better
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Please, understand me! I have nothing against gays, and I know that they face a lot of problems in our world. They need to have support and attention to this topic.
But making David gay is not a solution at all, how that should help them? It´s only affecting the existing David mainers and fans, and nothing more
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So basically
"I used to fantasize about this character in a video game. Now that I know he wouldn't want to be with me in real life, I'm upset. Why aren't you specifically releasing characters I can flick my bean to?"
Cringiest take so far. Actually reminds me of an old friend of mine who, upon telling a girl that had crushed on him that he is gay, had to endure months of harassment and abuse and "why couldn't you just do it for me, guys get hard all the time anyway!" Entitled toxic bullshit.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you can't connect with a character of a different gender unless you could have sex with that person in real life, That sounds like a difficult thing to have to deal with.
There are literally gay children all around the world who are being told daily that being gay is bad, and makes them a weak, craven thing. Some of those children will now be able to look at David and see even the King of survivors can be a proud gay man. Personally I think that's a bit more important than whether or not the game provides you with fodder for your wank bank.
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Can you please explain why this make you angry? And please don't see this as an accusatory question, I'm genuinely trying to understand.
Coming from a man perspective who happens to be bisexual, generally speaking all characters are defaulted to straight when sexuality is not mentioned in their lore. As far as I know there was nothing on David's lore until now that has mentioned him dating or being attracted to anyone.
For gay/lesbians/bisexuals, and I am speaking just from my own experience I don't know how others feel about it, but I don't really get upset/angry when another man is seen as straight. Like I mentioned in another post, there are fanfictions and art portraying straight characters in gay relationships.
Wouldn't you as a straight woman not be content with just consuming straight media from that character? David being canonically gay doesn't mean all media from now on will showcase him as gay, I'm sure there are plenty of people who will show him as straight.
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There are several male characters whose sexuality is ambiguous, so 'losing David' isn't a big deal. Get over yourself.
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It's time to move on. Just small steps for now, like switching the shirtless cosmetic back to default. I know it's hard right now and we're all here for you, but one day you will be able to get horny for a different arrangement of pixels. Trust me.
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this don't feel forced people take years to come out.
I'm pretty sure most david mains are gay imo including me.
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Right? It's like Gay/bi/etc wrestling fans.
You're showing men in underwear, who are hot, grabbing each other. Of course I'm going to watch.
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First of all, there was already mentioned a girlfriend in his lore.
And in simple words, I´m angry with rewriting the story of an existing character as they want, don't taking care of fans. Just imagine if your favorite survivor is Kate/Feng/Meg etc, and in the next tome suddenly it comes that she has a cock.
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Omg Kate being trans would actually be really iconic if you could put your blatant homophobia and transphobia aside
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That's it, go full mask off
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It's not rewriting the story at all.
I suggest reading his full Lore, it will make things a lot clearer for you to understand.
And it's incredibly common for gay men to have had previous relationships with women for various reasons.
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Nice try, but my favorite skin is not shirtless, and I mostly used to play as Meg in a duo with my boyfriend as David. We both had chosen a survivor to represent ourselves, we always do the same in games which we are playing together. And I still think it´s unfair now to make David representing entirely other people, not his previous fans
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It's the way you don't even realise that David was incredibly popular with gay men too 😭😭 it's literally all about you isn't it
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I would see no issue with that. My favorite survivor is Claudette. If I found out in the next lore drop that she was transgender (you know, the actual term adults use, instead of being transphobic ######### stains) it wouldn't bother me a bit. She could be a lesbian, she could be straight, she could be ace. Wouldn't hurt me any because I am happy at the variety of life and don't decide which character I like based on my lust.
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Now that's great question, since I happen to be transgender myself.
I think if I liked someone that much from a video game to a point of getting upset about them turning out to be a sexuality that wouldn't be attracted to me, I think I'd have bigger issues than someone having genitals I wasn't expecting them to.
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Just tell me WHY behavior couldn't make a completely new character? Some people will find him attractive and play as this survivor.
And the fans of David wouldn't be frustrated with so big changes in their favorite character. That´s so a simple solution.
Why???
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Ngl if they did that would be cool to see
btw you can have a girlfriend as your ex then realized that you aren’t into girls but into guys instead, stop being jealous of David’s little david
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If they did pull the trans card on one of the survivors then I'd definitely say their forcing it then
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I was answering the question if you didn't mention
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What makes you believe you are representative of all David Fans? According to your own posts, you don't even play the character, your boyfriend does (and after this thread I'm wondering if you even allow him an option) every actual David main I've ever met has been a gay man. Why do you believe your experience trumps theirs?
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Peanits explained the reasoning much more eloquently than I could.
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"His previous fans" – I'm sorry, but the player base contains just as many, if not more gay men as straight women. Do I have a proof for that? No, I'm just guessing by looking at the amount of women I saw in comparison to the amount of people asking for shirtless guys.
Like 90% of David's fans were gay men anyway.
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this doesnt inflict the current fanbase
ansolutely no harm is done to you or ANYONE by making a characters sexual orientation different. NOTHING is being removed, no one is being HURT, no one is being IGNORED, you're just a bigot. I hope in time you'll realize how awful of a human you are for taking an IMAGINARY CHARACTERS SEXUAL ORIENTATION AS A NEGATIVE THING AND EVEN MORE SO FOR VICTIMIZING YOURSELF AS IF SOMEONE HAS PERSSONALLY HURT YOU
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wow transphobia! gross! anyway, trans women are women and some gay men have previously dated women before coming out and still been gay. you're a freak!!!! i hope they make every character you like lgbt now. suffer. us lgbt people STAY winning <3
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