Leave David Alone, He's Gay Period.

The only complaint I have is that David is getting a second tome when half the survivors still haven't had their first tome. They could've made Jeff be first gay character instead and given him a tome now along with new cosmetics in the rift. I hope after this they give the remaining survivors their own tomes first before giving any others a second tome.

I appreciate that, but every single company will give the exact same, boilerplate response. I know I'm being skeptical, but I'll want to see the work before I join in the celebration.

I know it's different teams that work on different things but I just don't think BHVR really cares. These teams still work for the same company. If they really cared about the community they would have invested more money on a better anti cheat, focused more on QOL of the game and updated the report system. That's something that would benefit the game so much more, at least in my opinion. I just feel like David is going to be used by BHVR as a money machine, but we'll see. I don't mind him being gay, I just feel like BHVR did this to make more money.

I take it the lore's been datamined?

pretty so it has.

Yeah and I read it and it's good

Babes back off we're sharing

I'm assuming you mean if they changed Clark Kent because they had his son Jonathan who is gay takeover as Superman so technically they changed Superman.

There was also Superman Red Son where he is raised in Soviet Union during the Cold War instead of US.

They've done several different versions of Superman.

Now I want a shirtless David WITH a pride flag as cape.

Might finally move on from my old trusty claudette.

Then we find out Meg is David's old girlfriend and that they used each other as cover only to find out together their true selves.

Ok, no.

All I can say is that there's a really nice song by Lily Allen that completely covers this.

Knew it, I thought his friend was his bf or crush. but good for him ig

I don't care who you collaborated with. BHVR could have hired every single LGBT person including me to work on this collaboration and still I would be against it.

"New characters don't have lore" That's completely untrue licensed characters don't have lore because BHVR legally can't make stuff up for them. Newer characters have pages of it.

The act of choosing a character to be LGBT, for any good or bad reason, is very parallel to the idea that being gay or LGBT is a choice. When you choose one character over another you're implying either that there are implicit characteristics that are gay/LGBT. Any of the characters could be LGBT even Felix with a wife and kids could be LGBT. Singling David out for whatever reason or whoever you collaborated with again is very parallel to the idea that's it's a choice either that was intended for the character from the onset or it wasn't. I've seen the community manager you collaborated with some group and looked at all the characters and realized David was the best fit. That's choosing someone to be gay. Again it's both odd and concerning how parallel to the idea that being gay is a choice this is.

If you didn't want a paywall for the first LGBT character you could have released them for free. Imagine the better publicity around that. Being inclusive and diverse is so important to us as a company that we will release the first LGBT character in DBD for free. Again I'm LGBT I enjoy representation, what I don't like is the idea, that being that way is a choice. I don't like choosing this character to suddenly reveal his queerness years and years after his introduction. "He could have been gay the whole time" True he could have that's my point that would have been more pioneering and interesting. This is pandering, I'm not for this at all.

Ideas are intangible including the words real or fictional does nothing to discredit the comparison. Also the fact that one person has pointed this out and other's haven't is another meaningless statement.

Please explain to me how looking at all the characters finding out which character would be the best fit for them being gay(the community manager's own words on how the company picked them) is different to the abhorrent notion that being gay is a choice.

"whether those decisions be made when the character is first concived or down the line after the character has long been established."

An established and extremely highly debated and criticized topic among many fandoms notwithstanding DBD. It's not even close to something that's considered a widely and easily accepted practice.

Again I haven't seen any evidence that this type of change doesn't run parallel to the homophobic idea that being gay is a choice. Whether BHVR made a new character or updated an old as they did, homophobes' would complain. We accept that as a reality we ignore their argument.

In my opinion as an LGBT person, the act of looking at all the characters in the lineup and signaling out one as a best fit to be LGBT years after their creation and implementation is in my opinion parallel to that very abhorrent idea. There are no implicit characteristics of LGBT people outside of sexual orientation. They can be and are anyone that's the point.

I don't necessarily believe that was their intention I think most people are well intentioned, they have terrible execution. After a history wrought with this idea in the LGBT community still to this day even, it's extremely odd that this wasn't thought out more carefully. I couldn't care less if no one else makes that argument. It doesn't make me any less wrong; It doesn't make me more right either it's a non statement. Again, if others are fine with it, that's fine. This is my opinion, and it's not going to change.

Yay for David coming out 👻👻👻👻👻👻

He's currently living his best life aside from the meat hooks and constant loop of death <3