Leave David Alone, He's Gay Period.

because for the last time the team that writes lore will continue to write lore and the gameplay and UX and UI teams don't suddenly go "oop there's a gay character being written let's just change our entire plans" because that's not how it works?????? at all????????????

that's the very shortened down tl;dr version that doesn't spoil too much of it, but yes. id really advise reading it yourself because it has an impact

and they communicate but the lore team won't suddenly make the balance team not change circle of healing because mikaela is a lesbian??? cmon babes common sense

Some people have really silly attitudes. I remember when I was in high school, someone asked if I was gay because my favorite color was purple. Heck, even my own mother gave me sus vibes because I wanted a pink phone case.

They are just colors, bruh.

No one was asking about your opinion lol xD

LMAO

That the humor in that comment was the only redeeming factor.

lol

Because that isn't how these things are treated outside of the video game space.

If only our experiences matched up. This really isn't how things are treated in the real world because while most people are like "oh that's cool whatever" it's the people in power with the prejudice and they're really trying to make our lives a living hell and get us back to pre-60s legislation. So, sadly, it will always be a big deal until the war against our existence at a legal level is finally over, which won't be for a hell of a long time if I so much as glance at Florida, Texas, or the UK Gov and conversion therapy.

Perhaps in your personal circle, but absolutely not in the world at large, be it West or otherwise.

• "Can you name me a single, current piece of legislation that targets homosexuals in a negative way?"

There is a law recently created in Florida that forbids the teaching of sexual orientation in schools.

I didn't say it forbade the teaching of sexual orientation across all grades. I said that it forbade the teaching of sexual orientation in school, which you seem to agree with.

I think I understand why you seem to think that things are going peachy keen in the modern West regarding this topic. I suggest you stop digging your grave.

I think I've gotten everything I need to know from you. I think my time is better spent discussing things with better people.

Why can’t a game just be a game? Are people really debating over a GAME characters sexuality smh

I really hope you take this argument and are entirely against any and all forms of children learning about heterosexuality too, then, because homosexuality isn't, shockingly, intrinsically sexual and it's a mistake to believe it is. I had feelings of being gay since I was a kid, and proper education would've been an absolute godsend into making sure that I had any form of stable mental health. It also helps to correct issues of bullying and homophobia in children.

That's the joys of education, you can easily fix the mistakes of the parents if you can teach people otherwise. It's when you're not even allowed to teach that you basically lose hope of ever helping to create a better generation.

Then again, after our many other discussions on this topic, I can't even say I'm shocked at this development.

Are you saying kids can't be kids if they have the knowledge that different people exist? Should we shelter those kids from different cultures too then? After all, you're saying kids are too stupid to understand that people can be different, yet... They are smart enough to understand gender roles and gender norms... It's called the socialization process where parents and their social environment teach their kid what is expected of them in our society. They teach boys to play with toy cars and girls to play with dolls, boys to like the blue color and girls to like pink, ... So children do know differences and it's way more than biological differences. Genderroles and gendernorms are social constructs.

Children are smart as hell, at a young age they learn everything of what it means to be a boy through all kinds of media. So why not adapt the content of this knowledge to the 21st century?

It's not like your kid gets traumatized by the knowledge that not everyone is the same. My uncle is gay. From the moment I was born, I knew not everyone was heterosexual and it's not like I woke up from nightmares of my morally corrupt uncle kissing another man in a dark alleyway.

Like, how can you sit there and claim that the idea that you need to shelter your kids from the LGBT+ community isn't insulting.

According to a mod thats not like that only one survivor for one world is taken and this david is gay I have same idea.Presenting different Davids from different Terra worlds

I mean that kids learn from a very young age that boys like girls and girls like boys. And there's no one to teach them that that isn't always the case. And LGBT kids feel they are different from a lot younger than you would think. It's true that actual sexual attraction only kicks in during puberty, but a very dimmed kind of attraction is present from early ages.

I'm not saying that kids should be taught in detail about any sexuality (at least untill they're old enough). I'm saying, that just as a 4 year old knows that he will have a girlfriend (you know, in his understanding of what a gf is), what exactly is wrong about telling that kid something like "you can be together with whomever you like, regardless of gender". It's nothing sexual. It's nothing that corrupts the 4yo. As long as teaching the 4yo about straight people is fine, so is teaching about other people.

It always astounds me when people fail to put logical patterns together.

If teaching D.A.R.E. (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) lead to more kids trying out drugs, why would it then not be your logical conclusion to think that teaching about Sex would then lead to more students having sex?

Young people are extremely curious in nature. The mind is extremely complex and children at the age of 5 obviously don't have the same understanding of love, liking, etc. Their mental capabilities don't support understanding the nuances of love. How do you explain what love is to a 5 yr old? "It's someone you really really like" then what does a kid think "I really really like my best friend" "Maybe I'm gay." Maybe they are and maybe they aren't. The problem is that children don't have the ability to express themselves in that manner on average. "BUT I WAS A KID AND I KNEW!!!!!!" You're not every kid. We don't make rules for special cases. We make rules for the majority for the average, boring, dumb person who messes things up for everyone. I know many many boys and girls who "really really liked" their best friend then they found someone of the opposite sex they liked even more.

It's true that parent's screw their kids up more often than not but it's not something you can fix. The belief that a parent knows best is logically a dumb argument. Why would a person with no training in a given subject know what's best for someone, they can't. The same argument is true for teachers. A teacher doesn't have sufficient training either, no one does that's the point. A teacher arguably sees that individual for a total less amount of time, than the parents do and therefore cannot know the kid better. The idea that we live in an idealized society where no one is infallible is crazy. We live in a greedy world, it will never be perfect, and our rules as a society have to account for the imperfections of people. How many teachers flat out hated you as a student? I know many of mine did, and for what reason I was never privy too. When I look back and ask myself do I really want that mean ole b teaching me about the intricacies of love? HELL NO. Conversely I had some amazing teachers who probably could have done a better job than my own parents. How do you find those teachers, how do you sift through them, how do you weed out the bad ones. This problem becomes more and more complex as we add in the variables. The more variables we add in the harder it is to actually make sure the problem is solved correctly.

Some kids will already likely be mentally messed up because of their parents. That is a given and a usually unchangeable metric. Because of this bill some kids could be mentally messed up because of their teachers. Are you okay with that possibility? How many kids messed up is too much? One? Two? etc. All of this needs to be taken into account.

Not supporting the LGBT doesn't make you homophobic.