The best way to nerf Noed

That is indeed a excellent idea, wonder why nobody has thought about that.

Why not just put on the icons of the perks and add ons on screen?

That way we always know immediately what killer we are facing at the start and what their build is, that would be such an amazing idea 👍

Something better would be if Survivors could somehow nullify NOED early into the game, maybe by hoing around and cleansing all the totems so NOED doesn't have a chance to spawn. Sure Survivors are running a risk the Killer doesn't have NOED, amd that meams gens wont fly faster than a speeding locomotive which gives the Killer a chance to snowball and win, but at least on the bright side games won't last five minutes.

Or just do bones?

I take out 4-5 totems on my own every game, cuz no one else does it, their spawns are super easy to remember, just check those when going from gen to gen?

Someone will say "Ugh, but i'm solo Q, it's not that easy, yada yada". I'm solo Q too. I've been chased by the killers for half the game and STILL did bones. I chase killers, do gens, help teammates, touch bones and still escape. Instead of hiding in the corners of the maps, check those corners for totems. Most of you hide when just a glimpse of terror radius is heard. So you're not on gen on that time. Don't waste your time hiding when killer's attention isn't even on you.

I even think that NOED should be a baseline part of the game, not a perk, still as hex, to force survivor out of their lazy af excuses.

You won't get any better if all you will do is complaining.

(My absolute FAVORITE are people who do gens inside LT's, when there's a totem spawned right next to the gen and they'll just leave it there, makes my blood boil)

Exactly, finally someone understands /s, lol

Come on that isn't a nerf that's like saying a good nerf for ruin is to show its aura permanently to the survs

That's the dumbest thing I've seen in a while. There should be also notification before survior uses dead hard and when I down someone with DS.

If we say about nerfing NOED the only thing that make any sense (but there is no need, just cleanse totems) - is to make it token based so the killer won't be rewarded for doing nothing whole game and then still have 4k because of NOED.

Wraiths too

IMO, the best nerf to would be putting a requirement of hooking all survivors at least once to activate. Its simple change that also wouldn't matter for most, but will mean you can't get value if you decide to tunnel and camp one survivor all game.

I would prefer a rework however. One that buffs it and makes it more punishing for survivors, but also feels more fair for them too.

NOED doesn't need a nerf. Survivors just need to stop acting like Idiots running for saves when they know its active and actually seek and cleanse the totem.

There is nothing more annoying than getting to the point in a match where NOED csn activate and three people go down because they get too cocky.

reworking noed into a better perk is the better option. the perk is mostly useless throughout the match so nerfing it wouldn't do much imo

It’s because it’s easier to remember the dull totem spots in case of noed than cleanse all 5 totems in a soloQ match. You also won’t be wasting time for nothing if it turns out the killer didn’t have noed

"Just do bones" is indeed a terrible argument. As a killer main who loves NOED (but doesn't run it often outside of endgame builds, which I've been playing around with a little), I have to admit that that's a really obnoxious response to criticism of NOED that isn't viable. If you run maybe one perk, like you said, you're not likely to get more than 4/5 done (and waste a lot of time doing it), and even if your entire goddamn build is dedicated to cleansing totems, you'll get all 5 done, but you'll still run around the map for seven minutes not doing gens to counter a perk that doesn't activate in the majority of games.

This is also the biggest argument for the OP's nerf idea. I agree that NOED doesn't need a nerf, but if OP's idea were implemented, it would change the focus of NOED from an endgame perk to a slowdown perk, because 2-4 survivors would spend all of the early game running around looking for totems instead of doing gens. Combine that with the Pig's Video Tape and Rules Set No. 2, Corrupt, Deadlock, and Merciless, and their team will have a hard time of it.

Of course, that'd ruin NOED as an endgame perk and all the builds it relies on, so I don't support the idea.

Also, NOED's counterplay (there is one, despite all of the survivors' complaining) isn't to "just do bones", it's to "just memorize bones' locations when you see them and then go back and check if the perk activates after the gens are done". It ain't hard, and I lose the totem within a few seconds of it activating in 25% of the matches I run it in.

It's still worth it in some builds, but only because of survivor stupidity. You get one down out of it (if that) if the little monsters know what they're doing and just leave through the other exit while you're on your way to the hook. Facing off against NOED is an opt-in scenario in most cases.