Free vs Paid Chapters
What's the issue?
well if you want all the perks and all the characters to be unlocked you need to pay a total of $120 give or take. now that's a steep price but the grind is so incredibly difficult with iridescent that it's not even worth your time to try and get them all the regular way. I am a proud buyer of every single chapter. however, for new players, this sounds like an immediate turn away from the game.
suggestions
it's simple really, they need to start releasing some of the original chapters for free, like roots of dread is original it could release for free. the number of chapters is getting overwhelming and BHVR clearly recognizes this with the announcement of the grind nerf. what do you guys think about seeing more free chapters vs paid chapters? obviously, they need to make money with these chapters. but it's getting too steep at this point.
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How do you think companies make money? giving stuff away for free? no.
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You could always grind shards to either buy an original character or wait till it's in the shrine.
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cosmetics, auric cells, base game cost, the 20 paid dlcs they already have in-game, giving new players more variety to choose from is helpful for building an audience, not to mention BHVR is also a vfx company and has done work on movies.
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I'm tempted to make a 2nd account and see how things go when you play without ever buying a DLC. Honestly, I think that there are enough default characters and perks that by the time you have all the free perks unlocked (e.g. every default character at level 40), you will have enough shards to buy multiple new characters.
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lets talk about the grind for iridescent shards shall we!
to purchase a single killer with iridescent shards, someone grinded as much as possible for it and it took them 300 hours to grind enough, there are 24 killers in the game. that's 7200 hours in order to unlock every single killer the standard way, seeing you don't spend any of it on the shrine of secrets that is. and not to mention the 31 survivors that you also have to unlock., it's getting a little out of hand
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Not that bad. If its a currency that lets you buy paid content. i think the grind for them should be steepish
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That doesn't seem right. I have around 1.3k hours and I haven't bought a non-licensed DLC in two years, and I have enough iri shards to buy the next 3 non-licensed DLCs outright.
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Since I bought everything for money - how many iri shards does one character cost?
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9k, I think.
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Ah, nice, after reading the post above with the 300 hours for one char I figured way more. That's actually quite affordable - thank you :D
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This chapter would honestly be great for a free chapter due to the memory aspect or whatever it was.
Sadly it has already been on record they won't even release a free survivor, let alone a chapter.
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I think making some of the older chapters either much cheaper or free would be okay. I dont think they should just release new chapters free though.
Spark of Madness and Hag's chapter could be free by now I feel.
And as a person who purchased both, I wouldn't feel mad about it. I got my money's worth years ago so let people enjoy it today.
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I don't think they would be making a bunch of money from new players. I didn't spend any money in this game until I had it for a year, and most people don't even get that far into this game. The way they can keep having the bills get paid is releasing new content that people have to pay for. Plus, this original content can still be bought with iri shards, meaning the player doesn't even have to give them real money (just their time and maybe time=money?).
Also, wherever you got your numbers for how long it takes to get iri shards is probably skewed or off because that is not a realistic calculation to achieve all the non-licensed characters. First of all, during some of the rift seasons, they have put both the killers and survivors on sale for iri shards, meaning you can buy them for less. This isn't guaranteed obviously, but it shows there are promotionals that survivors can take advantage of. BVHR has also given out free shards as log in rewards. They basically gave out a free character over the last christmas event.
I have about 1300 hours in the game and I'm only missing 2 killers. I currently have 12,000 shards (saving up for the new chapter). I've only bought the unlicensed characters with iri shards and any paid DLC's I've bought at 50% off from steam sales. I get that people don't have the means to buy content sometimes (especially when you already bought the base game), but they do give you a way to get more content without having to spend a dime (you just have a grind).
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Guys I doubt they even make much of the game DLcs anymore its all cosmetics.
Games make way more selling in game things than the games these days thats why so many games are free to play
I paid $9.99 for the base game via steam, BVHR has in game cosmetics that are $15
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They could give players a discount on all of the "old" original chapters, but why would they give away the NEW chapter for FREE? BHVR, as far as I know, is not a charity but a company
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You can get them at quite a substantial discount. You can buy the killer expansion pack and the survivor expansion pack (or if you're brand new, the DBD Ultimate Edition, which includes both with the base game) which gives you all the non-licensed characters up to Chapter 14. It's how I got into the game last year!
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90% of the perks are never used. So why even bothering buying character with perks that are never be used?
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I often feel rip off when buying new DLC within a week or two the killer gets nerf BVHR has gotten away with this for years.
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dead by daylight only makes 5$ off each new chapter, but 10$ to 15$ on every individual cosmetic. trust me they have money to give out free DLC. but there are so many characters and very little that new players can use
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Honestly, this game has given me so many hours of gameplay, I don't mind spending money on it. (Keep in mind I'm a big Playstation discount gamer lol) It's a game and they actively do new events and chapters and stuff, they deserve the money. If you want free, you can basically get the basic pack and play and not buy add ons.
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to me it would be understandable if the base game was free to play and they're doing that type of business scheme, but its a paid game with 100$ worth of dlc on top of it
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A company's first objective is to make money : employees to pay, mouths to feed.
What would be their incentive adding new content? Besides, these DLCs are pretty cheap. You don't need to buy all of them at once.
Don't think it's already pretty generous of them to give an option to pay with in-game money for unlicensed content? There is a word for that.
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But what would they gain from throwing free dlcs at us? The answer is nothing. They would lose money, plain and simple.
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Not sure about giving chapters away for free. BHVR needs to make money.
The problem here, and it's the one you seem to have, is that so many perks are locked behind the purchase of these chapters. But this problem is caused by the imbalance of the perks in this game, with certain perks being almost mandatory.
This problem would also be fixed by not having such meta perks anymore, making no perks seem like a requirement. Instead shifting some of the power these meta perks have into the baseline game. Another reason why I am hopeful for the big perk update, but the devs have not confirmed anything yet, so we'll have to wait and see.
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That’s literally just game balance. Do you really think they’re rubbing their hands together and saying “ah yes, how will we oppress killer players this time?” They’re not. They’re just waiting to see how the new killer performs, and then balancing according to that.
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I play dbd on gamepass so I didnt mind buying the mandatory Halloween and BBQ dlcs.
With the gargantuan grind, dbd feels like a free to play game anyways.
I would highly recommend bhvr follow this model for all platforms, but PC ruins everything like usual.
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I particularly don't see it as an issue because they do give alternatives to have stuff without needing to pay with real money, like the OG characters being sold by shards and perks coming through the shrine. I agree that the grind for shards is not the fastest, but I can understand that otherwise it would not be any better for them if people could just get whatever they release at full price by just playing the game a few hours. They're still a company selling a product/service and we'll still be their costumers at the end of the day. It would be great for the players to have a faster way to getting all, but not really for them I guess, as taking longer to get a new character means the player will spend more time playing their game I guess.
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I mean... All the original content is free. I didn't spend a dime on it.
However, I did spend money on the game. Quite a bit. More than if I would have had to buy everything. That is almost why the free to play model makes more money than the full retail model. Lol.
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The DLCs are pretty reasonably priced, and with the exception of licensed content (which is its own money hurdle), can be obtained for free via in-game currency. This is plenty generous enough. BHVR's gotta make money somehow and new DLCs are the most work-intensive thing they do.
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It is ridiculous people defend BHVR on this topic. While behavior is a company, it already charges base game and ridiculously priced cosmetics for ridiculously priced auric cells. Other games such as battle front, Minecraft, and many others with large audiences DONT charge 10 dollars with every update. That would be insane. Last I knew it was the companies responsibility to keep their audience engaged by providing new content without locking it behind a paywall. They shouldn’t be entitled to our money. You guys let them get away with the idea that paying for new original content was ok so of course they’re going to keep doing it and say that they need to do it to keep the game alive. Believe they make well well over what they need. It wouldn’t hurt them to release a free chapter for every 2 paid chapter.
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I own every single DLC in the game. Every single Killer and Survivor.
I don't want BHVR to make any of the DLC's free. I want them to keep making money so they can keep fixing game.
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First of all, you're responding to a thread on which the last reply was in May.
Second, Minecraft is ironically not a good example. Minecraft Dungeons (and likely Legends in the future) also has bought DLC that make up more than half of the total playable levels last time I played.
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just wait for the teachables if you really don't wanna buy the killer or survivor
each licensed survivor and killer is like 5 bucks, can't you spare at least that much?
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They could definitely more heavily discount any original content that is over 3 years old. Having the Hag cost the same as the Dredge is really kind of silly.
I think this is why DbD goes on sale for 50% off or better a lot of the time. Even with the updated graphics DbD still doesn't look like a game that's worth paying over a $100 for all the content.
But releasing new content for free? Dream on, buddy.
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Yeah but they are not charging for updates. You still get a map if you don't pay. And perks you can get in the shrine eventually.
And are you really comparing cosmetics to chapters?
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