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Will Survivors only be happy when the last Killer leaves?

shalo
shalo Member Posts: 1,621

I get tbagged and abuse in end chat just about every game, why are Survivors so angry at Killers?

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  • KateMain86
    KateMain86 Member Posts: 2,374

    Its either survivor mains who have had too many matches with not so fun killers or they're just being toxic for the sake of being toxic, or a combination of both. I think a lot of times survivors who tbag don't mean any harm by it. You never really know unless you get to talk to them after. As for the chat abuse, I know a lot of times things can be said in the heat of the moment and I think people often say things after a stressful match that they regret afterwards. We're all human and sometimes we just need to take a moment to collect ourselves. However if they're just saying mean things to you for no reason then yea they're just being toxic.

  • caramelpudding
    caramelpudding Member Posts: 119

    I don't really care about teabagging (and I get teabagged a lot, cause I am really a bad killer xD). But when I had a really bad game I just stand there after the gates got open and get myself something to drink and a snack lol

    When I play on PC and I don't even bother anymore to see the endgame chat. You can't have a good conversation with most of the people, no matter if the game was a fair and good or a bad one. I gave up having nice endgame chats.

  • malloymk
    malloymk Member Posts: 1,562

    Exactly. Survivors have a worse reputation simply because there are more of them. That's it. End.

  • Elessar93
    Elessar93 Member Posts: 92

    Because this game has one of the most toxic community I ever seen. The lack of moderation and punishment for those people is ruining an otherwise chill and fun game.

  • RenRen
    RenRen Member Posts: 1,443

    That's just how most survivors play I guess. I'm guessing they think it's fine cause they haven't properly played the other side. Could be wrong don't know.

  • 1Lo1L
    1Lo1L Member Posts: 8

    There is a certain etiquette to being killer too, you know. And when you break it, this is usually the reaction. If they are 'abusing you in endgame chat' you're probably complaining about them cussing you out for something you did ya? Or did you just get so utterly trounced that they decided to tell you how bad you are at the game? Honestly curious.

  • DoritoHead
    DoritoHead Member Posts: 3,546

    GRR oppressed basedpilled killer main versus entitled sheep survivor main

  • shalo
    shalo Member Posts: 1,621

    No, I didn't know, what are the rules I'm supposed to follow?

  • Salacia
    Salacia Member Posts: 51
    edited May 2022

    The survivors are toxic between the cheaters (speedhack, repair generator hack), the bodyblock, the insults chat end of the game, the teams under voice (voice big cheat on this game, example the status blindness is useless on a team because of the vocal, assessment a killer who plays with the status blindly he loses full perk + accessory because of a ######### vocal, the other survivors are aware of where the killer is in real time thanks to the vocal, the survivors have smartphones on this game in game? answer no)

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    Survivors leave the game in droves too, come back for a chapter, then leave again.

    And killer mains are like "danm, SBMM proves survivors only love meta perks, and thus ruins the game"


    That argument goes both ways. I have friends who love playing killer, but refuse to play survivor unless we have a full team because they have had too many random teammates either screwing up, or being camped and tunneled where the random teammate didnt know what to do because they were not in comms.

    I also have friends who love playing solo surv, and refuse to play killer because of SBMM.


    If you gonna be biased, try to not show it as much.

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,618

    Teabagging is no more just pressing a button repeatedly than telling someone to f... themselves is just saying words. Technically correct if you completely ignore the intended meaning.

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    As a survivor. I will still be angry even when the last killer leaves. Nothing can stop me from this battle rage.

  • WesCravenFan
    WesCravenFan Member Posts: 2,637

    Math is not biased. It does not "go both ways".


    For that to be true, the departing players would be on relatively equal numbers.


    And they are NOT.


    Not even CLOSE.


    Look at the survivor/killer population numbers for two seconds.

  • Hilidaris
    Hilidaris Member Posts: 164

    Well there's a small difference between tunneling and sluging in order to win the game and taunting in order to annoy the killer

    in the case of tunneling and sluging for the sake of annoying others then yes I do agree with you

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    You are correct. More survivors are leaving than killers.

  • WesCravenFan
    WesCravenFan Member Posts: 2,637


    Charts do not support that. At all.


    There is a reason that 4 man sweat squads with vaping TTV buddies are matching up against baby Trappers with 40 hours in the game. There are not enough killers to support the current survivor population.

  • 1Lo1L
    1Lo1L Member Posts: 8

    it's not rules you should follow per se, it's more like escalation rules. If X person is behaving in a negative way meta allows for you to also behave negatively to a similar extent and then no one has a right to complain.

  • hiken
    hiken Member Posts: 1,188

    normally only heavy campers and tunnelers get that type of bhvr, i never do it if the killer played fair but if u tried to tunnel all game what do u expect? trying to ruin others fun dont expect decency from survivors.

  • 1Lo1L
    1Lo1L Member Posts: 8

    actually a lot of ttv vapers still use soft ware that lets them cherry pick lobbies but you didn't hear that from me

  • I_CAME
    I_CAME Member Posts: 1,621

    A curiosity. Why do you still read the end game chat? Like why do you keep reading it and expecting a different result when you know what's going to happen?

  • ColonGlock
    ColonGlock Member Posts: 1,224

    Don't take it personally. The killer's burden is to be feared and taunted. Sometimes you can take advantage of their mistakes.

  • Viskod
    Viskod Member Posts: 854

    This is often how I am rewarded for going out of my way to try not to hook the same person twice in a row if I happen to run into them like right after they've just been unhooked. I make the mistake of not taking the opportunity presented to me, and they make it out as a result and still taunt me on the way out or insult me in the chat anyway.

  • Wampirita
    Wampirita Member Posts: 809

    Because even if one in 30 games will be wholesome, it's enough to make my day.

    I'm a killer main, I'm not good at it, and I know it. I'll get 4k maybe once per day and I don't care about it.

    I can have fun even if I don't get any kills in game. I can have fun if I won't be able to hook anyone.

    I love complementing survivors that gave me a chase of my life that they did a great job. I love pointing out some sick plays they did in games vs me. I like to be outplayed by actually smart moves and giving them props for that. But what do they say in response when I tell them this in end game chat? I'll get cussed out, and if they won't be able to say it in game, because of censor, they'll pm me every tip on how to kill myself.

    I started learning Billy on 1st of May. Even since then I don't think I got more than 3 sacrifices with him. I completely suck, and I don't give up. I went through countless games of being cursed at. But then I got a really tough game, which ended in really wholesome chat with Claudette helping me understand how to play, gave some tips. ONE game since I started playing him, wasn't filled with hate. And it was motivating enough to keep trying.

    Ironically, the most "hated" killer, aka Bubba, is the only one who brings the most friendly people to my games. I succumbed to maining him, just because of how people in game are never toxic towards me.

  • Annso_x
    Annso_x Member Posts: 1,611

    Tbagging as taunting in a pvp game is nothing new or worth screaming "toxic" over, it's not like they're hurling slurs in a voicechat. Also the vast majority of killers who tunnel / camp as their game strategy (aka from the beginning of the game) don't actually need to do it bc they're not in high MMR no matter how much they tell themselves they only lose bc they're going against a sweat swf on comms (but that's a discussion for an other day).

    Tbagging doesn't have an "intended meaning", you're literally making the meaning up by yourself and getting mad over it... it's the only way besides emotes and nodding (that are also considered toxic) for the survivors to express themselves, i don't tbag bc ppl act like i insulted their mom over it but everytime i consider doing it or have done it in the past was to say "good hit / that shouldn't have hit" "bye / ggs / thanks / please" "lol" "look / come here" or whatever, even if the majority of people are using it to taunt you it's literally a pvp game and not that deep. As long as they keep the taunting in game you're just being dramatic if it actually upsets you to the point of wanting to quit the game (and in that case you should definitely stop playing it tbh).

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,618

    Crouching does have multiple meanings in the game; one of which is very derogatory and is specifically the meaning I'm referring to. The rest are just due to the limited emotes in game.

    The people who use it to taunt are generally either children, have the mentality of a child, are having a really bad day and did something out of character, or could just be a miserable person.

    Regardless of how people try to reframe it as just 'a video game' the fact remains there is still a person behind the screen and saying it's just a video game is no different than when people saying 'it's just words' or 'lighten up' to someone who is a victim of bullying.

  • Kaitsja
    Kaitsja Member Posts: 1,928

    Honestly, endgame chat should just be removed. Consoles don't have it, so it should just be a simple matter. It's mainly just used for survivors to be toxic and bully the killer for no reason.

    As a survivor main, there is no reason to be giving survivors a free pass for mistakes they've made. Mistakes should be punished, after all.

  • Annso_x
    Annso_x Member Posts: 1,611

    I'm gonna have to disagree here, there's a big difference between getting tbagged and getting insulted in post game chat for eg; bc unless they explain why they tbagged in post game chat (in which case they're reportable if they're bullies) the killer is the one interpretating the tbags in the end, I'm not saying it's all a big misunderstanding and everyone is being nice bc that's obviously not the case, but i feel there's quite a difference between if go in thinking "ah they're taunting me bc we're playing a game against eachother" and being midly annoyed about it or thinking "ah they'd be insulting me if they could bc they want to bully me over a game" and getting hurt over it. Also, even watching streams & videos of popular killer mains (survivor mains too, but to a lesser extent in my experience), they regularly insult survivors as 'game banter' and i've never seen anyone claim it was toxic behavior, toxicity is very subjective in the world of video games. I genuinely believe how you feel about tbags depends on how you interpret them, I very rarely feel like the survivors are actively trying to bully me bc i don't take tbags as insults, but also i don't tbag bc I know some people feel strongly about them.

    And anyways to get back on track of the post, even admitting survivors tbagging are all being toxic jerks, it doesn't change the fact there's as many toxic killers. Ultimately there's no doubt both sides are equally bad in my mind (but you could argue killers can be more affected bc in a 4v1 it'll feel more personal, mostly if mutliple survivors are being jerks) and I don't understand why people make all of these us v them posts when neither "them" or "us" is the only side ruining the other's experience. We're all miserable.

  • MrPeanutbutter
    MrPeanutbutter Member Posts: 1,586

    Yep, basically this. People who enjoy abusing others in video game are pathetic human beings who will never accomplish anything. Best to let them enjoy the most gratification they will ever receive in life.

  • MrMori
    MrMori Member Posts: 1,945

    Post game chat is never worth engaging with. I keep it closed, and am happier to do so. When the game is over, and gates are opened, I don't even go to gate, I go to basement. They wanna BM, feel free to come down there.

  • DBD_Pinhead
    DBD_Pinhead Member Posts: 763

    No they won't be happy because the devs will give them bots, which is probably their goal anyway when beating you just isn't enough for them. Then they'll probably complain about the bots to have them nerfed too. This is one of the few games you'll have to go out of your way to restrict communications because a great deal of survs are #########.

  • AverageKateMain
    AverageKateMain Member Posts: 949

    If we could stop the whole "survivors are toxic only" argument, that'd be great. Killer mains act like you guys aren't going out of your way to miserable as well. Last time I checked, survivors can't kill the killer (camping them until they die just to kill that one survivor)

  • Hilidaris
    Hilidaris Member Posts: 164

    you never heard of sportmanship I guess.

    It's not because in other game people do it (wich is also toxic in the other game) that it's ok to do it in dbd

  • Deathstroke
    Deathstroke Member Posts: 3,735

    Do you tunnel and camp? If you do then don't expect them to be happy about it. Those are dirty tactics from survivors perspective and sometimes totally unneccesary to use.

  • Jasix
    Jasix Member Posts: 1,246

    Who cares if they teabag you?? Why are you letting random people on the internet affect you that much? They do things to frustrate you and you are just giving them what they want. As far as end game chat goes - you can avoid it by just closing it. Stop letting people frustrate you - it is your choice.

  • AnneBonny
    AnneBonny Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 2,252

    this game/community is in a constant fight over who can piss the other side off the most and you're gonna have a lot more fun if you either stop caring or stop playing.

  • Annso_x
    Annso_x Member Posts: 1,611

    lol first of all not caring about sportmanship =/= being toxic; otherwise you claiming tunneling and camping aren't toxic would be hypocritical considering literally forbidding someone from playing the game to ensure you win it is the furthest from sportmanship there is (someone doing something you don't like isn't "toxic", stop misusing the word).

    Also i've stated multiples times that even if i personnaly don't mind being tbagged i don't do it to others bc i know they may not feel the same; and my point wasn't "tbagging is fine" but "both sides are toxic and making a them v us post implying the contrary is stupid", which it is.