Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the upcoming massive perks rework?

I’m optimistic about them nerfing/reworking DH & NOED, cause now we won’t have to hear “nerf dead hard” everyday.

on the other hand I’m curious as to what they have in store for the other perks.

BHVR does not have a good track record over the past 5+ years.

Even if the perk reworks make a more boring meta, if it's at least a different meta I'd be extremely happy.

Optimistic, because i have nothing to lose here.

If it sucks, then I'm just not going to reinstall and thats that.

I never expect anything good when it comes to reworking perks.

While the developers have always brought creative solutions to the table - in my opinion, they seem to have a very rudimentary understanding of high functioning play in their own game.

They were shocked by data that showed a direct correlation between Dead Hard usage and survival rates - but they wouldn't have needed data charts and statistic screening if they booted up the game and played it for a bit.

Anyone can tell you what's strong about meta perks - a lot of high functioning players can talk at length about the design philosophies behind the good and bad of maps and killer powers as well as perks.

It took years upon years for them to un-break Decisive Strike, and instead of fixing totems... they just doubled down on keeping them in an awkward hell-state forever.

From what I've seen:

For every 3 or so super lame and crushingly bad ideas, there's an absolutely brilliant and masterful one that rises to the top.

If the devs are looking to work on 40 perks, I'm worried that about 10 of those changes will be positive, and that 30 are going to be so incredibly outrageous and silly that they stand monumental in the face of all the team had achieved.

I want the best for the game as much as the developers, we all do, but looking at the track record and the reign of terror that was September 2021- May 2022... I can't help but worry that the majority of their works may miss their mark.

Pessism is a great outlook on life. If you expect things to go poorly, then if they actually go well it's a nice surprise. If you expect things to go well, you're only going to be let down when BHVR BHVRs perk reworks.

Just for your own sake, go back through patches where perks were reworked, including buffs and nerfs, and really think about them.

Have you run Furtive Chase even once since it got the rAdIcAl rework of not losing tokens when the obsession dies? And to clarify, running it for a "hook/kill the obsession" tome task where you would have used it regardless of that change doesn't count.

Buckle Up got changed. +4 whole seconds of seeing the killer's aura. That was the problem right? Not being able to see them for long enough?

It would be a gross overestimation to say that 1 in 10 perk changes has any significant impact on the chance that they're actually brought to a game, or feel useful when they do. Most of those times is because they buff them to be so ludicrously overpowered that they get used every match until they get nerfed again. Looking at you, Boil Over.

BHVR blatantly has no idea why a perk is overpowered or terrible, and seem to decide their buffs/nerfs/reworks but throwing darts at a wall with random effects and values tacked to it.

If more than 3-4 perks get changed in a way which either drops them out of the top 10 most popular perks, or brings them into the top 10 most popular perks without breaking the game, I will be genuinely surprised.

Going by their track record I don't see any reason to rationally be optimistic. Hope I'm wrong.

The worst case scenario is that the meta changes and something new is obnoxiously powerful and commonplace. More realistic scenario is that the meta changes and it's slightly better than before. No reason not to be optimistic.

I see people talking about BHVR's track record here, but then using bad examples- the random slight number tweaks they give to some perks when the patch is fundamentally focused on something else isn't really the comparison here, you'd be better served looking at their track record when changing a perk is given more focus. So, not Furtive Chase or Buckle Up, but instead Object of Obsession, Decisive Strike, Undying, Ruin....

On that track record, they're on firmer ground. There's still the occasional woefully bad idea like the original Boil Over rework, but the ratio of good to bad is swung firmly towards good.

Kinda neutral on the perk changes as I'm sure there will be a mix of interesting ones and kinda meh ones (which is fine, some perks need more radical changes, others just need a little tweak or two), excited and optimistic about the "slight base game changes". Might just be the excitement talking, but while perk changes are relatively common the kinda base changes "changing the meta" implies makes me real curious and I hope they're good, smart changes.

As long as none of the 5 most common perks now (for each side) will be in the top 5 most common perks post-rework, I'm happy.

I'm just happy for a meta change. See some new things from both sides and try new stuff myself.