Legion
Hey Behaviour, it's time to nerf legion (again) since you made him just as annoying and unplayable against as the Legion when it came out in the game.
Thought you guys would need a hint since you're always late to catch on with the state of your game.
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Legion is alright. Their style did not even change lol. Frenzy is feeling better, that's all.
Legion still need to chase you for second hit. With Dead Hard, it's third hit actually.
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awww someone got deepwounded
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why do survivors want an easy game.
btw they fine
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Big skill issue
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Legion on release was entirely broken. Legion now is just an even more annoying mending simulator.
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Someone got a link of the tutorial for that poor man?
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Are you really the true naratu? I mean the real one?
Btw yes I agree Legion is so ######### op you cannot do anything, we are at the point where they look at you and you just drop dead. There is no counterplay whatsoever, the only way to play this game is to watch streams cuz the game makes it impossible to be playable for ppl.
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I totally agree with you. They really need to nerf Pig and Sadako. They're too overpowered with their stealth.
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Except when he is on the 4th hit and insta downs you, regardless of health state.
I think if they just removed this unnecessary addition, survivors wouldn't mind it as much. Not a big deal on huge maps but small maps it happens often.
I find Legion OK when you compare to Nurse/Blight but his playstyle is really boring. Deep wounds is non-gameplay.
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Soon they will be asking for the killers ability to down people to be removed lol
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Occasionally I play legion and run the mending add-on and just run around and stab people to spite people like you. No downs. No hooks. Just mending.
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Yeah but it doesn't *have* to happen if you play with it in mind. Run away from your teammates. Count down the frenzy timer. Literally just think a little tiny bit.
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Man stealth is so broken, how do the devs even justify that??
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How often does this even happen without Never Sleep Pills? It doesn’t seem like it actually works that consistently. Never Sleep Pills let you get the fifth hit more often, but it also takes longer because of the lower speed, Legion spends 60-90 seconds just going through that chain of hits using that add-on and honestly one down per minute or more is not overpowered.
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If you think current Legion even *compares* to Release Legion, then you did not play against Old Legion.
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You know we all criticize BHVR but I will admit that constantly asking for pointless nerfs doesn’t make their job any easier.
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Legion being annoying to face is not a justification for a nerf.
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Just get better pls, we reach this point, calling legion op
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I haven't seen a legion in a while now
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actually a huge skill issue on your part. legion are exactly the same with the same counterplay they moved an inch in their own tier but they're still ######### just more fun to play with the music, different addons and the rare ability to get a down in power due to survivor ######### ups.
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Like really, with the oblivious effect being so op, how can they let that be unleashed on every killer. They basically made all killers stealth killers at this point. A lot of killers don't even need a perk, they have built in add-ons that make them stealthy.
Jokes aside, whenever I face a Nemi with tinkerer, his feet are so loud lol. I can hear him coming from a mile away.
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If you're team is THAT grouped up together, something is wrong and you deserve that down
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I don't know what you would nerf? I am of the camp "legion is fine" but lets look at their powers
Frenzy lasts 10 seconds
Speed increase by .6 m/s
Speed increase per hit by .2m/s
Can Vault at Med Vault speed
Can do non basic attack during frenzy that will put survivors in deep wound
Can see survivors not in deep wound in his terror radius with killer instinct
Cannot See Scratch marks or blood
if he hits 4 consecutive slashes with he can instadown
exiting frenzy is 3 seconds of 2.07 ms
So Speed, Sight, Delay, and Down.
The speed/vault is his only chasing bonus. Only thing he can do and is not able to down someone during it unless its the final hit. I don't feel like you can nerf this. and the slowdown makes it so even if the survivor is right next to the killer at the time when they go into fatigue the survivor gets a 6 meter head start running which takes a killer 10 seconds to catch up with using base movement speed, so 13 seconds total. plenty of time to go to a window pallet or other safe area.
Deep Wound/Killer Instinct - Only triggers after he hits someone, only in his terror radius and wont trigger for those in deep wound. I dont think you can remove either of these. Its what causes legion to be the hit and run champ. Without it there is 0 reason to go after someone else after the first hit.
The biggest change, the instadown - This really should only happen in 1 circumstance and that is the survivors make a mistake. Between mending timer being paused when running, being able to 99% mend and having Killer instinct not effect you when in deep wound the first 3 survivors should NEVER get hit twice in the same frenzy. as for the 4th. If all 4 survivors are close enough to get all 4 stacks even if they run in opposite directions that was a mistake. This is his only down potential with his power other than getting downed from not mending which is 100% survivor fault.
I don't see what in his base power you would nerf. I think the 3 second head start for the survivor is fine, as is the mending time, and the down. He also has his own unique terror music so at the start of the match you KNOW to split up.
Like I know this response is long but if you want to tell me what part you think is an issue I am willing to discuss.
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It's really not difficult to hit 4 people, even spread out on a small map (please note I already said large maps don't apply to this). Legion also gets a speed increase after each hit. AND can hit the same person after they mend. Again, it is really not hard to do.
Happened to me twice on Haddonfield, and another on Saloon.
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I specifically said small maps. And it is common enough. Its really not hard to hit 4 people. You get a speed increase after each hit and you can hit the first person after they mend.
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Legion is fine just learn to play against them lol.
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bruh the same thing with demo xD
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Legion only improved against survivors that can't or don't employ the simplest counterplay.
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So what? Three times in 2 matches? I honestly don't think that falls under the category of "not hard to do"
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Glad you agree <3
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I have to support this now.
He absolutely destroys in SoloQ if he is not new. (SWF gods may have no problem)
2x in a row 4k at 5 gens - yeah - 1 fast dc in second game.
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Well with never-sleep pills it might happen, otherwise it's not that common for legion to hit everyone and then down someone
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I agree legion is op af
He falls in pig tier whom is op for year and bhvr stil didnt nerf her
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Yes legion's extra speed should be reverted. In fact, he should have never sleep pills basekit, minus the extra duration. We should also make it so that legion tech is either not possible or bannable, this is an EXPLOIT, stupid killer mains need to stop EXPLOITING. All killer do is get carried. I mean what's so hard, just hit the guy lol haha. Survivor cannot kill killer, bad game design, unfair. Killer kill survivor easily because they hand holding with behavior. stupid game nerf clown nerf legion nerf killer
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Absolutely awful to play against Legions atm.
Don´t know if they changed MMR again - my games are really not very good these days.
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Legion is fine. Genuinely only see them get a down with their power 1 in every 5 games.
When you know it's Legion you just get distance from your teammates and it's fairly easy. Also don't mend for about 20 seconds to be safe.
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I don't even think their buff was that strong to be honest. They're just more popular at the moment because of the update so as survivors we're facing more of them so it becomes annoying to go against. Don't worry, in a week you'll be complaining about dredge.
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Maybe for you.
I see a lot of 4k at some gens left.
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I dont find legion easy or hard. I am just so sick of 95% of killers playing legion....ugh
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tbh, there was a Legion buff patch not that long ago, of course, people were trying them out, but generally, I don't see that many anymore
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Why are we still complaining about Legion nobody plays him anymore people realised he's still garbage even after the buffs he received.
The last time I played against Legion was last week and it was against a streamer with the Never sleep pills add-ons he literally threw the whole game just to get a down while in frenzy.
the game was so long and boring but hey that's Legion for you it's all about game slowdown with the mending mechanic.
Nothing really changed about Legion hes still bad and annoying to go against,tho they made him even more boring with the recent buffs.
What a badly designed killer.
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Nerf? No.
Adjustments? Sure.
He is easily the most unfun Killer to play against.
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If anything I'd be giving them more buffs, they're still quite weak.
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The only time I see Legion get a 4k is whenever the survivors insist on healing for no reason lol
Played against a Legion today and after the first gen was done a survivor who hadn't been hooked yet was t-bagging constantly for me to heal them 😂 surely enough a boon was placed and within 10 seconds of healing they were hit by fetal frenzy lol
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Just split up. Legion can still get bullied pretty hard. Don't be like those many, many survivors I see where they wait until the last second to hop off the gen then get mad when I get the 5th frenzy hit on them.
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Legion is very strong against weaker players but is still trash against competent ones who know how to exploit their gaping holes.
Ultimately the rework changed nothing about this and the core of this is that unlike every other killer they cannot use their power to down anyone unless the other side clumps up massively, or forget to mend. They can't use their power at all against wounded survivors other then to inflict deep wound again and they also know they are safe from feral frenzy and therefore must rely entirely on m1. Every other killer has either a tool to assist (e,g clown bottles), a projectile or can get the exposed status on a survivor. Legion can only cause a deep wound and otherwise has to m1, which puts them at the mercy at any semi competent looper and bonus points if Dead Hard is involved.
I can see the frustration factor in coming against them and agreed the rework completely failed at addressing their underlying design problems but calling them too strong is ridiculous when their power has such a strategic disadvantage.
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Legion is fine the only difference is now they not so unbelievably easy to beat you actually have to use your head.
If you think that makes them unbeatable then I definitely question your playmaking.
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"after they mend'
Stop mending right away then.
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Legion complainers enjoy nurse then👍
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