Is anyone a little concerned that BHVR still wants to add an auto ban system?

Pretty much this, it will not be a matter of why, it will be a matter of when.

I was pretty freaked out about it when they made the announcement last year... but that was before we got the massive cheater epidemic they've still failed to get any handle on. The report system seems more backlogged than ever and it's not removing problem players nearly fast enough - it's at the point where people freely admit to cheating in endgame chat and even stream themselves doing it because they're that unafraid of repercussions.

So at the current moment... eh. An outright auto-ban scares me, but something like an automatic flagging system that a real person then looks at would be very helpful at this stage. This is especially true because the current system only actually considers reports that have video evidence attached to them, which is way too big of an ask to be reasonable and discards almost all feedback made. But the big issue is the number of spurious reports, both maliciously sent and out of genuine confusion/stupidity regarding what the rules actually are. Someone racking up a high volume of reports per day might be a cheater, or they might just be a salt farmer or bog-standard camper/tunneler. I would still guess that blatant cheaters get more reports than BMing players, but enough rage reports get sent that it's not a reliable metric.

I also fear that if people figured out how the automated system worked and what criteria it operated off of, they'd eagerly abuse it by sending outright false reports in hopes of getting people they don't like banned. SWFs seem especially powerful for this, since they can coordinate.

I want to see the autoban system go live to see the meltdown of the community as everyone starts to execute each other with reckless, salty, toxic abandon. They'll undo all the bans within a week and go back to the drawing board (Didn't they do that with MMR?) but oh man it would be a fun week to watch.

Don't forget about the automated disconnect bans / penalties. Various streamers got falsely banned because it could be abused when it was first released.

It took multiple iterations to get it to a point where that doesn't happen anymore.

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This game has way to many cheaters auto ban is a great idea it's at least better then the current report system if it doesn't work they can always revert or improve on it.

I would like to take this moment to mention how great the current auto ban software is that devs use via steam: EAC Easy Anti Cheat

Easy Anti Cheat at one time detected my Razer keyboard as cheating and would kick me from lobbys, time me out and would ban me from game for security warning and I was blocked from playing.

I wouldnt trust ANYTHING auto in this game tbh.

The "community" you reference are who we are afraid of.... why? Because we know how the community behaves.

There are TTV streamers who report players frequently for nothing, and on stream. Its literally a meme behavior now for TTvs to report you for winning in a way they do not like they do it live on cam dude.

There is simply no way that any auto-ban feature would not be abused. They abuse EVERYTHING already. If ppl do this to meme on stream, there is no doubt in my mind casuals report players all day long for nothing. Both sides.

Go on YT and dig up false reporting in DBD, its a meme now and they do it all day long

I play a lot of Legion/Twins/Bubba my three mains, ask me why I would be concerned about "auto ban features" based on accumulative reports with no human verification of infractions,

Let's just say it this way,... right now we have a system where you must submit proof in video for reporting. The reporting system is already heavily abused, devs have to put out info graphics saying you cannot report for slugging/camping/tunneling etc because survivors report you for those 3 things all day. These survs dont even know what tunneling or camping is

But for some reason you think an auto-ban system with no human verification of infractions would some how be a great change and we should have no concerns about "auto banning players" in this current atmosphere.

I dont even see how a mind could grasp such a concept.

I absolutely hope this is never implemented. It would be absolutely lazy on BHVR’s part to do this, considering they don’t take genuine reports seriously and they’re not going to hire more people to go through the constant support chat of “hey, I was banned because I 4kd a SWF and they all reported me for exploits, and your system dinged me for it and now I can’t play the game.”

Well like you said "The reporting system is already heavily abused" it's not working can't you get that. Easy Anti Cheat works but it's not perfect can't get everything adding auto-ban feature is just another layer to prevent cheating but if you are a cheater not saying that your are I can see why you don't want this change.

I think a lot of people's default fear is that the threshold would be too low and leave it open to abuse as a result - false positives in an automated system is an understandably scary prospect.

That said - I think BHVR is intelligent enough collectively to recognize this risk.

There's a lot of perks in this game that enable strange behaviors that the other side can understandably misinterpret as cheating (Rancor, for example, reveals the location of every survivor whenever a gen is completed [including those in lockers!] in addition to the well-known ability to mori the obsession - but many players don't know the latter effect because the perk is so rarely used) and that confusion might reasonably lead to more frequent accusations of cheating than usual.

It's also not the hardest thing to anticipate users who will actively abuse the report system to try and intentionally ban players they dislike - adjusting the system to disregard or even punish players who submit a high number of faulty reports is also possible.

Ultimately I think it's something that can be implemented correctly. It'd take a lot of care & consideration, but they seem to know this and I trust them to come up with a good way to implement it.

They were pretty aware of the flaws of deciding SBMM based around kills/escapes purely was a terrible idea, stated so, and did it anyway. Year and a half of working on the "super smart system" they implemented it. Kills/escapes. Almost a year later from constant complaints did tests, gave data, and made adjustments. They've been working on this for over a year now, the same as SBMM, and needless to say they've also stated that "after a certain number of negative reports we will take action" And since it's automated, it will be an automatic action.

I can think of many ways someone who plays this game in a specific way could eat reports every game, and when the community knows it exists, they'd probably just report anyone they dislike. So we're assuming that this system will be totally super smart, like SBMM, and somehow be capable of discerning actual reports accumulating against one person against not? I'd say you're talking pretty confidently for what very clearly could be terrible, but you're right.. surely the developers are good enough and smart enough to have seen these things, to not be abused, right?