Killers that play 3 v 1 as if it’s fair
I report them as unsportsmanlike every time. The game is balanced to a 4 man swf. When playing as solo there’s often an instant DC. So we now have an already unbalanced game (killer is favored vs solos) become insanely unfair. Since Behaviour can’t figure out a fair way to deal with immediate DCs it’s MY OPINION that it is unsportsmanlike for a killer to play a game that is wildly unfair and balanced in their favor and they should just make it a farming game instead of beating up a team that is stuck in an unfair match since Behaviour wont let us quit in these situations. Just throwing it out there… It’s your system Behaviour. This is how I interpret it.
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The killer is just playing the game and you are getting mad at them instead of your teammates d/cing.
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"game is balanced to..."
You're really thinking the game is balanced to anything? Seriously?
That being said.. yeah as Crowman said, blame the person that DC'd, not the killer for just, you know, killing. It's killer vs survivor, not killer vs disconnecter.
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how it's killer fault for survivor's dc? For you killer is supposed to give up and let you farm?
If i ever get a dc in my team, i just try to get as many points as possible and move on to the next game. It's not your or killer's fault that there was a dc, only thing you can do is move on. I've won most of the game 3v1 i had, and i lost many as killer. It's not the end of the world
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You can report them all day but it won't matter because it's not against the rules
Your opinion doesn't trump the rules of the game
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No offense but you are backing up the reports with the false reporting.
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So you clutter up the report system with worthless reports because you get angry that your opponent doesn't put your fun ahead of theirs 100% of the time.
Your solution, rather than report people who DC and ruin games, is to force everyone in that situation to farm solely because its what you want.
The hot topic of discussion lately has been player entitlement and there really have been some great examples to draw from.
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So this is why the report system doesn't work, because of people like you abusing it for no reason
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you uh... need to reevaluate your perspective.
a killer should automatically throw a match because one of your teammates decided to dc?
should the killer go afk can yall can steam roll him?
should they dc and end the game immediatley?
if i could report you for unsportsman like conduct for this post i would.
i can't facepalm hard enough to this post.
the funniest part of this is that YOUR OPINION is still objectively wrong no matter what way you try to justify it.
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I can understand facecamping and tunneling in a 3v1 at 5 gens being unsportsmanlike, just playing the game regularly?
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Balanced to a 4 man SWF? If i play with 3 friends the game immediately becomes a bully simulator.
If it makes you happy you can report the killer, reports don't do anything in dbd.
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Cool, so I do the right thing by usually going AFK as killer if there's a dc. Good to know, though I don't get why survivors take 20+ minutes to do gens in those matches, would've been way quicker for all of them to DC and take the penalty.
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Or for you to just keep playing and kill them all and everyone can move on to the next game.
"Oh someone DC'd, let's farm for the next half hour to max out our points!"
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I don't really enjoy killing, I like chasing survivors around, using my power, getting my 4 stack, and then everyone escapes. Those are the matches I find fun. If someone DCs, though, and I continue to play, then survivors take so, so, sooooo long to do the gens because even a little bit of pressure brings everything to a halt. So I put the controller down and watch videos or get a snack or something. The survivors can do all the work to finish the match while I give my hands/wrists a break.
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Yeah I get you, the chases is the most fun part of playing killer.. Survivor? I'm not good at chases, so as survivor I have more fun escaping, not the actual chases (though I have more fun playing survivor with friends in general, not really solo)
But yeah unless I have a Kill daily/challenge, I don't mind letting people get away, depends on how I'm feeling. But as you said, as long as I get my 4 stacks, who cares, you can get a higher score by getting 4 stacks and no kills than getting 2-3 kills but no full stacks. Same as survivor, going for a late game rescue and getting a protection hit + safe unhook for 2 stacks is worth more than making it out alive.
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I'm usually happy to play more chill if there's an instant DC but I'm not under any obligation to, people have their own challenges + things to get done and sometimes just want to end the match asap to get into one that has 4 opponents in it. Also it's not like an occasional thing some days it feels like every game has an early DC. And don't abuse the report system.
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A dc or suicide on hook is essentially a lost match and unless they have burned several BPS, I think the best is for the Killer kills everyone as fast as possible so everyone can jump into the next match, hopefully a decent one.
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The reporting system would work a lot better if the devs didn’t have to sift through the massive amounts of non-reportable “violations” like these.
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Just putting this here
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Killer does not have to farm if he does not want to and usually that's not either what survivors want to do. But however in this situation killer can play more fair and go for chases instead camping or tunneling and also hook everyone twice before finishing anyone off and that what I do personally sometimes I farm with the last 2. But if killer does play like is 4vs1 and hard tunnels/camp it's miserable experience for sure but still not reportable. As killer job is to sacrifice survivors and well some just want quick easy win.
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lol. Look, i read a few of the comments and you’re all entitled to your opinion. but for those that disagree just answer the simple question: Is it sportsmanlike to play a 3 v 1? That team of 4 survivors joined the game expecting a somewhat fair game. Some random quits. Now they are stuck in an unfair game through no fault of their own. What’s the sportsmanlike thing to do?
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Don't make me tap the sign
tap tap tap tap
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So what do you want the killer to do let you go?
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tippy - I’m not saying it’s not allowed. And i know Behaviour pays no attention to that report. I’m saying the fact is that it’s unsportsmanlike. And they are unsportSmanlike for doing it. A sportsman would be cool about it and farm.
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Pretty sure this is bait and everyone is falling for it. But hell I'll bite too.
The problem you should be focused on is your teammates disconnecting so early in the match. The DC penalty needs to be harsher in my opinion. Someone who does it 3 times in close proximity should be a few hours banned at minimum. You really expect the killer to just sit there while you farm? News flash buddy, the killers don't find it fun when someone disconnects either as it ruins the game/thrill of the chase for us as well. Most of the killers want to move on to the next actual game instead of sitting around so you can get a few extra points. Stop throwing in false reports. It's reasons like that why the system hardly works in the first place
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You’re missing the point. I report the DC as unsportsmanlike too. But the new reality is 4 people (killer included) are in an unfair game through no fault of their own and only one player, the killer, has the ability to remedy the situation and make it fair. Choosing to recognize the unfair situation and make it an equal experience for everyone is sportsmanlike. Choosing to slaughter 3 other players that are at a massive disadvantage is unsportsmanlike. That’s just the fact.
You dont fix the DC situation by making the penalty harsher. People will always DC and/or suicide on hook. Recognize the reality that survivors will often quit and ruin a game and create this situation. They need to allow the survivors to surrender. If a DC happened and I could hit surrender and take 0 points and and give the killer 20k i would. If they made it a vote where all the survivors have to agree to leave, fine. Something, anything would be better than forcing us to play an unwinnable match. It’s frankly just cruel but they don’t care. What? Make the poor killer get in the same boat you’re stuck in? Heavens no!… lol. Best to just let them run roughshod over you guys so he’s happy.
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SWF balanced hahaha
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So you don't want to punish d/cers more despite them being the actual issue and just want to blame killers for not giving you a free game.
This is some real entitlement you have.
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For many killers that is playing regularly, lol.
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Yes thats sportsmanlike, 3v1 is fine. Things get tougher based on the survivors play styles, but I've escaped more than a few times in this situation. Worst possible scenario is the killer not even putting in effort and I just spend 5min playing gen simulator.
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No one is forcing you to play this game. If someone dcing is enough to make you rage report against a killer who then proceeds to play out the match normally, you might wanna consider taking a break.
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Well, congratulations for clogging up the report system with pointless reports.
Blame your teammates. The killer isn't obligated to farm with you. If they want to, that's their choice. I usually will! But it's completely legit of them to just want to move on to the next game, or to want to pip or get a challenge done. If your opponent screws up, do you have a duty to take it easy on them? Like, if you see a killer that has no hooks at 2 gens left, are you obligated to walk up to them and give them a free hook in the name of sportsmanship? Do you offer a free kill if there's a map offering and the killer gets looped to hell because that wasn't fun or fair?
It's fine to dislike that people don't have the same standards you are. Get upset all you like - but you can't report people for not being as nice as you want them to be.
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So judging by the last few lines of that reply you want the killer to be miserable with you and have to sit through 20 minutes of everyone doing nothing. In that situation I would let myself die as well so I could move on to the next actual match (unless my team was actively trying in which case I'll go for it). If I play killer I am not waiting for you to make a few extra points just for the sake of your entitlement. Take that up with the person who disconnected and punish them.
What are you gonna do if a surrender system is implemented and you can't get that last person to surrender? You gonna complain about that as well? There is nothing unsportsmanlike about the killer performing their goal to kill you. It doesn't matter how much of a chance you stand because of your teammate's disconnect. If you can't see that then this obviously isn't the game for you and maybe you should go play Civilization ;)
Put a leash on the entitlement buddy. It doesn't always revolve around you, but I know you won't bother to see it from the other side
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We are now angry at people for...
*Checks notes*
Playing the game. I see.
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Seriously guys… come up with a better quip than “survivors are entitled”. What we’re entitled to, what we’re ALL entitled to, is a FAIR GAME.You can keep avoiding the facts of my post all you want…. But you know I’m right. I’m not saying the killer should stand still and let survivors farm. And you’re being disingenuous just to argue with me if you think I am. Farming is MUTUAL. Killer gets points. Survivors get points. It’s even. And saying, “hey, killers don’t like DC’s either…..” and then acting like you can’t do anything about it but slaughter the 3 man team is also disingenuous. You can show sportsmanship and let everyone who got screwed by the DC get points or you can be unsportsmanlike and slaughter the 3 man in your way too easy game. The fact that 95% of the time killers choose to be unsportsmanlike speaks VOLUMES about this game. Talk about entitled? Sure sounds like killers feel entitled to that free game….
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BHVR doesn't approve of farming. It's bannable in certain situations. Playing the game normally after a survivor DCs is not bannable. It's safer for a person playing killer to not farm. You saying "killers choose to be unsportsmanlike" isn't really fair as farming is looked down on by the devs and is not really considered by them to be playing the game.
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I didn't say survivors are entitled. I said you were being entitled.
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And let me end this by summing up all of your killer arguments: “We’re ENTITLED to beat up the 3 man team because it’s not against the rules and we would rather YOU have an awful UNFAIR experience than spend 5 minutes playing nice so that EVERYONE has a FAIR experience.” It’s basically the definition of unsportsmanlike so really… just stop arguing and face facts. That’s what you do. Enjoy your evening. : )
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Incorrect.
When you click ready, you are entitled to a game and nothing else.
You click ready, and you accept the scenario you're describing as a possibility
Nothing unsportsmanlike about playing the game how it was supposed to be played
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The problem is that you're the one who's deigned what's sportsmanlike and unsportsmanlike when you decided to dictate terms... so they're not really facts. Unfortunately, the rules you're going with are not the actual rules of DBD, and therefore nobody is obligated to listen to them, heed them, or even have any idea what you're talking about, and you haven't addressed that you're asking killers to spend way more than 5 minutes following survivors around in a farming game when they could just play normally and move onto another, less ruined game in reasonable speed.
I'd also like to point out that farming is not inherently profitable to the killer. You're asking the killer to play nice, but plenty of times I've offered to farm in that scenario and the survivors did gens and left. If I tried to hook some at the end, they immediately bailed. What did I get out of that? And, you know, not all of those survivors wanted to farm either - plenty just wanted to move on to the next fair game, since as you pointed out, an early 3v1 is pointless for everyone.
Seriously, why is it someone else's problem when some little saltbaby ragequits at the start of the game? What you're pushing is that the killer is no longer allowed to play the game once any survivor quits for any reason, and if they do, they're a bad person.
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Thumbs up to all of this.
If someone DC's against me early, I'll sometimes farm if I'm in the mood (and if the survivors are willing), or other times I'll play normally and give the last person the hatch. As survivor, I've escaped a match where the killer played it out normally and someone DC'ed early, sometimes a killer has farmed, and other times it was a slaughter. I didn't have any expectations my opponent would go easy on me or my teammates, and I never have had an issue with any of those scenarios (and I'm someone who really tried to be as sportsmanlike as I can when I play). Reporting anyone for playing a game normally is an abuse of the report system -- and it's threads like this that make me VERY worried if BHVR ever implements an auto-ban feature that isn't heavily vetted before it's put into place.
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What would you like the killer to do when someone DC's? Stand in the corner of the map? DC themselves? I hope for the sake of all that is good that this is a troll post. It's crazy that I can no longer say "obvious troll," because I'm never 100% certain anymore. I genuinely don't know what you would like the killer to do in this situation. It seems like a very silly thing to expect. If it's that big of a problem for you then you should DC from the match, uninstall the game, and go play another game that you feel is fair. I hear that Civilization is a good game to try.
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Lmao, you report someone every time because they decided to still play the game? It's not their fault someone ragequit/DC and you can't blame the killer for that.
Peak survivor entitlement.
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"unsportsmanlike", lol.
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I just want to add this in the discussion: every solo-Q game is 3vs1 game by design (crash, afk, DC, moron, noob, ...). This is fact.
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Hahahaha "5 minutes" in a farm game 😂 (i speak from experience as a friendly killer when i say it takes 10+ minutes with farming survivor to finally leave since the killer cant force them out until all gens are done. Unless he plays normally for kills 😱)
"95% of all time"
"Game is balanced for 4 men swf", so killer is equal to 4 men swf on comms? Hahahahahah
"Face the facts"? Which ones? Your arbitrarily, anecdotal, self imposed ones? Hahahahah
Damn i knew why i already expect something popcorn worthy entertainment when i see your name here. Normally that takes a week or two.
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You are mad at the killers instead of teammates that DCs? Wild
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you... yes you... you are probably the typical entitled guy who blame everything but you for your loss... your reports are useless since in the case that you described the killer is just playing the game... you should put your anger aganist who dc, not the killer... it's like reporting the killer for tunneling or camping... useless since devs stated that are valid tactics...
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The game is pretty unbalanced right now. In order to have any chance vs you standard group of players, I usually try to tunnel one out asap. Once 2 gens are done, a squad of 4 full people is way too oppressive and usually results in an easy 4E. With one gone from the start, I can revert back to playing the game as I used to do in the beginning: hooking survivors and then just leaving the area to roam around. But todays meta and gen-repair speeds don't allow for that in a normal 1v4 game.
And just a random thought on the contrary: the killer really struggles against a good team, chose the wrong person for their first chase, ie the one that knows how to loop, and finally loses sight of said survivor, when the 3rd gen pops. Whats the sportsmanlike thing to do for the survivors in this situation? Would you like it if a "report for unsportsmanlike behavior" held any water, if you just played the game from that point on? Or does the killer have a reasonable intitlement to ask for farming after that point?
When playing mostly one role, we often lose sight of the other sides plight and troubles.
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If you could just give up and hand the other side a reward, we would have way, way, WAY less fun, nailbiting, though or swingy games. Every time I commit a big blunder and get down sub 20s into a game as a survivor, I feel that rage swelling inside of me and I just want to commit hook-suicide, just to end it and try again asap. But 99,999999% of the time I fight the urge, and unless its a hardcore camper, the survivors team can easily recover from this. "An early hook isn't the end of the game, dum dum" goes threw my head, as I laugh it off and enjoy a more tense game.
On the other hand, its much harder for the killer to regain any momentum, if they don`t kill one survivor by the 3 gen mark. If another gen pops, the killer basically has lost. Yeah, there will always be situations where you can edge out 1k, maybe even 2k if you play tooth and nails, but NEVER EVER in the history of this game has a healthy survivor group said "you guys know what? That killer had a really tough time with us, lets do the sportsmanship-like thing and just hand him that 1k, while we three here open the gates and just leave".
The game, just by its nature, is very swingy. I always proposed for a catch-up mechanic, like give the killer a slight bonus to speed, the worth the ratio between hooks and gens done is, or survivors a gen repair speed buff if its the other way around, but people always hate the idea and shoot it down. As it stands, one side will usually snowball pretty hard and you can usually tell from early on who will carry the win.
So circling back to your original idea: would you be ok with a game in full swing for you ending in a sudden death and handing you 20k if the killer didn't hook anyone when 3 gens pop and they just give up? Or would you have liked to "finish the game because we were on a roll and this was fun"? Without any catchup mechanic most of the time one side will be on better terms then the other and absolutely balanced games are exceedingly rare, but the game would be much, much worth, stale and poorer if people could just legitly throw the game and give up the second things go a lil bit south for them.
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False reports fall under "abusing the report system" which can get you banned. A killer playing a normal game, even if someone dc'd, is not a reportable offense according to the official rules no matter how much you try to stretch and twist the definition of unsportsmanlike behavior.
Dc'ing is an offense, but you don't have to report it, as they have an automatic dc detection that punishes the player.
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