Is Depipping Still a Necessary Feature?

I know from a mentality standpoint the absence of depipping would probably be better for the community - I'd even be happier if an additional tier of grades were added to compensate (The idea being that there's now an "Auric" grade above iridescent to climb through 4 tiers of to make up for the inability to lose pips).

That said I almost never think about pips personally and my grades climb just from playing the game. I don't believe that depips really cause that much trouble (other than mentally, for folks who fixate on it) since you can't regress in grade anymore, either.

They should remove depipping. I would assume this is a 90%+ agreement among the playerbase.

now this I do support,... you DC, lose a pip.

Depipping is a relic of the past. Grades measure playtime, not skill. Why can you move backwards on playtime? I'm okay with safety pips as a way of preventing people from ranking up via AFK or ragequitting, but depips have to go. They're especially punishing to survivors, who are near-entirely at the mercy of how the killer plays and whether their teammates even try to win.

Not what I meant, I meant killers will camp and tunnel to get pips or not lose them. Not griefing. After I hit Iri 1 I stop caring about pips.

I think the poster means that the threat of depipping can force a killer to utilise unfun strategies in order to at a minimum secure a safety pip.

Sure; some killers will use those tactics no matter what. But the threat of a depip if a game is getting away from you definitely contributes to why killers camp and tunnel.

When I’ve played survivor I’ve seen it happen a fair bit. Killer is playing “normally” but struggling; only has 1/2 hooks and there’s only one gen left to pop. Suddenly the next person hooked is met with hard camping. Again, even without the pipping system some people will still do this as they care so much about kills/winning. But removing the threat of depipping should lower the number of people that do this.

Depipping was good for when Ranks were used as a matchmaking tool to filter ranks based on how skillfull players were in them (in theory).

However, nowadays ranks are only used to indicate how much you played DbD. They are no longer part of the matchmaking tool nor are they publicly shown to other users - plus they dont work together well with the current matchmaking tool, as they start out easy and get harder and harder to progress through, while said matchmaking tool makes you have easy games (=easy to pip) at the very beginning, but makes it harder and harder for you to win (= earning pips gets much harder [in addition to the already increasing requirements to them] and depipping gets much easier) the more you play.

I don't think there is any reason for depips to still exist in the current form of the game. All they do is add frustration to it, which we have plenty of already.

Exactly. The struggle becomes especially noticeable after hitting gold. You could have a few good games only to be screwed by MMR/RNG and hit the bottom of rank again. Makes it a nightmare. I gave up ranking up my killer because it was just to much expectation for trying to play some casual matches

I've been beating this drum for a while now, and it's good to see so many other people share the same sentiment.

Depipping accomplishes nothing. Grades aren't used for matchmaking, so your grade doesn't affect your opponent level (in theory). Grades aren't an indicator of optimal skill level. No one but you can see your grade pre or post match (unless they're part of your SWF as survivor, and it's doubtful they care). So other than the BP bonus, moving down in a particular grade level is something that only affects your ability to gain BP at the end of a month.

When I get to Rank 1, I change my style considerably. I'm much more likely to experiment, play around with meme builds, or goof off in a match, since any pressure to not de-pip is gone. I'm sure many others play that way as well.

Getting to Rank 1 wouldn't be automatic if de-pipping wasn't a thing -- people who don't play all that often, or who struggle with playing the game, are still going to have trouble pipping -- especially at higher grades -- and getting past a certain rank, even if they can't de-pip. The possibility that some people might play more casually outweighs any reason that remains for keeping the de-pip as it is.

This is something I hope the devs realize at some point and implement as a QOL improvement for everyone.

It should exist only for DC's.

Other than that, it should've been removed when they stated grades should reflect only time played.

Depipping serves no purpose now and needs to go.

You are partly right, but as the killer you can't play too well, as anyone learns that tries to do some of the killer adept challenges. With nearly all instadown killers you get punished if you use your power too often and too well, because then you get fewer chase points etc. There is even poor old Plage, whoms power actively fights against her getting the achievment. Also, anyone dying on hook and not getting rescued will screw over your devotion ranking. Its all pretty banged up and busted, tbh, no matter the side. For killers they should have changed it to a 3k+hatch or 4k as the requirement, a long time ago, but because of how strikt playstation network is about changes to their trophies, they can`t do a thing about it.

depipping is pointless at this point.

Yeah, I've had that happen, which is especially irritating (and more likely) as you're closing in on Iri 1.

But I don't know if it should be removed altogether, especially now that you can't de-rank/de-grade. Maybe make it so you really have to stink it up (or DC) to de-pip.

One thing I think should absolutely be a thing is that no one de-pips in a match where someone DCs, ever. Except maybe the person who DC'd.

Having a teammate (or multiple survs, if you're playing killer) DC and you lose a pip in spite of your best efforts really sucks.

I kinda agree, if it's only for bloodpoints, just give the +0 if the player did bad. -1 should be there only for DCs.