Are you going to do anything about SWF?

Does "Pretend it's not an unfair advantage one half of your survivor base has the the other half does not" count as 'anything'? Because that's what they're going to do.

They've expressly said that they refuse to do anything to help solo queue that SWF does not also benefit from, even down to "give solo slightly more BP for playing an objectively harder version of the game."

As others have said there is nothing they can do. The only slightly feasible option they have is to tweak all swf countered perks/addons into something else(E.G anything that relies on survivors being on gens when X event occurs, or obscures auras, etc.) but that still wouldn't address the core problem.

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Because they do not need to. I can't wait for BHVR to come out with DBD-style headphones so ya'll will stop trying.

Yeah. Even something like seemingly reasonable like "a three people SWF gets a x% gen speed reduction, a four peole SWF x% times 2" would be unfair to the myriad of SWF groups that are just in it for the fun, while messing up and dying horribly. I watched a few streams of Twitchers (after the match of course!!) that I was in, and while coms gives them some solid advantage, its usually the streamer thats a great player, while two of their friends are rather inexperienced and panic easily.

But when you get a super coordinated team, you gotta feel it. You never seem to catch anyone, and the second you turn your back to the other half of the map, three survivors descent upon your gens there like vultures. But thats just life as a killer main.

As others have pointed out you can't do anything with SWF directly, since communications occurs outside of DBD. That's why the only option is to tweak all the other players: killers and solo survivors, to reduce the impact of SWF's comms.

Killers win most of the games, killrate is over 50%, that should be enough for you.

Killrate means nothing since it's not broken down into brackets, it's intentionally misleading.

Oh btw, SoloQ got even worse with the introduction of Rift Challenges, forcing people to throw games. Does the killrate account for trolling/memers?

That's simply not true for all SWFs.

I have friends who are terrible players and terrible at communicating.

I also have friends who don't like to use voice chat.

Needless to say, we play together for fun and don't get any advantage from it.

As a result, I actually have much more success playing solo.

So what measures Could they introduce to "combat SWF" that wouldn't unfairly punish me and my friends?

They can't tell if you're using discord, so there's no way they can do anything to penalise it.

one word: NOTHING

Nothing like limits on perks or informing the killer they have joined a SWF lobby will ever happen.

What I would like to see to start with is extra BP for the killer and the game should also stop averaging the MMR amongst the group and just use the strongest survivor to match with the killer.

For real. What kind of opinion is that?

Add comms and balance around a team with certain coordination.

Buff Killers and SoloQ

No reason to remove SWF (not that they ever would), only level the playing field by having each SWF pick perks from a shared pool so there is only one of each per team. This increases perk variety and at this point there are more then enough to pick from. No more 4 man SWF, 4xDH, 4xBT, 4xDS.

SWF isnt too bad, one kill is all it takes to sour their party

League is a competitive 5v5 MOBA. That is a very different beast to an asymmetrical 1v4 that has been developed from the ground up as a casual game.

Very few people are out to team up and abuse the killer. Most SWFs just want to play with their friends and don't care much about the result of the match. If killers get to see who's a SWF in the lobby, they will lobby dodge and then solo queue becomes an even more miserable experience.

I don't want that for solo queue players. I'm sure others would agree too. SWF is not the big bad everyone thinks it is. Map design is the problem.

In a SWF game, communication is simple callouts that conveys information concisely "Killer's on me", "I've lost them", "I'll get the rescue", "I'm too far away, can you get the rescue?", "Nobody's coming to rescue me, can you do it?". Outside of the callouts, SWF play the game normally. They aren't tracking the killer's every move and reporting on their mindgames.

I have over 1000 hours and have been playing this game since 2018. I can say with absolute confidence that the vast majority of SWFs I have played against were not out to ruin my game.

Dbd is a casual game. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. The reason for competitive matchmaking is because the community was sick of the busted matchmaking prior to SBMM. That being said, nobody likes SBMM because it doesn't work.

You could have Rank 20 survivors playing against Rank 1 killers, or Rank 20 killers versing a lobby that consisted of a Rank 1, Rank 4, Rank 6 and Rank 12. That Rank 20 killer was new to the game, and they'd get mercilessly stomped by the more experienced players.

See, you make the argument that because survivors can choose to play with their friends that killers should be able to opt-out of playing against SWF. That would almost certainly kill the game. If killers don't want to play against SWF, and solo's are easier to stomp, why would they ever play against SWF? Queue times would skyrocket for SWF, solo queue would have worse games, and eventually everyone but killers would leave.

See, a SWF running 16 perks and each having a different role just isn't efficient. A full team of solo's each running meta perks will stomp you just the same as a SWF running meta perks. Knowing each other's perks doesn't really make a difference.

Communication is not as strong when killers can get time-efficient downs. As it stands, maps are the problem and not SWF. Fix maps, fix the killers that need fixing, bridge the gap between solo and SWF, and the game will be better for it.