BHVR - Please explain P3 rewards logic
Here's what i know right now, i hope (exactly i fear) i understood everything correctly:
All characters on P3 before the update will receive some kind of icon. Ok, that seems some kind of useless reward for the grind - remember the grind was: doing at least 3x50 bloodwebs to reach P3, while loosing all perks and unused addons/offerings after each step.
Chars not on prestige are now forced to prestige because of a special bloodweb, but they retain all perks and addons/offerings while gaining a prestige level. So this isn't any disadvantage.
Now what really bothers me: you said that you'll give free prestige levels to chars depending on the number of perks they have. So people that never prestiged get the prestige for free now and keep their stuff.
If this are the facts i think this special icon doesn't reward you for going the hard way (like legacy did long ago), it just flags you as a fool for wasting your time and loosing your stuff.
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Exactly. Wish they opted for a better reward that actually made it feel worth it. sigh
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Yeah. Frankly, who cares for a special icon no one will look at, not even ourselves?
I stopped to P3 prior to the change. I already have 20ish P3, I'm done. I'm getting Flan and waiting for the new system to kick in before I hit the prestige button now.
A cosmetic? Yes, OK, I'll keep prestiging. An icon? Gimme BP instead at this point, it'll be more usefull...
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Also if you have to grind to get reward before grind rework, it just doesn't makes sense too.
It's more or less encouraging grinding in an update where it remove grind.
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Advantages to Prestiging now: You'll get a different emblem that everyone can see in the postgame results, and you'll get the bloody cosmetics earlier (those will be moved to Prestige 4, 5, and 6)
Advantages to waiting for the update: You won't lose al of your items and offerings.
It's probably better to wait, but considering this game is years old, I've already had several characters made P3, so that's fine by me.
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They can't make the rewards anything more appealing than that, or they're then pressuring players to P3 before the changes go live.
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I thought there was more news coming June 27
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But what is the reason give free prestige levels to a character depending on the number of unlocked perks? Isn't keeping all of a characters stuff good enough?
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I have 9 characters right now I never prestiged because I had no interested in the bloody cosmetics. These characters have EVERY SINGLE PERK IN THE GAME AT PURPLE TIER.
How stupid do you think I feel right now? My options are throw it all away, or get screwed out of the special reward.
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get screwed out of the special reward.
Special reward? Sorry, what special reward? An icon in the endgame screen? Are you mad?
You thought that an exclusive free skin was not enough to make you prestige but a slightly different icon in the endgame screen does the deal for you? I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that
If anything you should feel relieved that you're getting all the stuff that came with prestiging without any of the downsides. Think about all the event items and offerings you still have, think about all the bloodpoints you didn't waste and then compare them to a slightly different icon
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The reasoning behind that is that the bloody cosmetic is worthless if you actually have a cosmetic you want to use for the character. What POSSIBLY reason did I have for getting bloody clothing on default Meg, who looks like a dumb pastiche of Pippi Longstocking, when I can have her wear much better clothing?
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The reward is a slap to the face. Not worth getting to p3 before the update
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And why on earth would a slightly different icon be worth it?
If it's because "it's exclusive" the same thing could have been said about the bloody cosmetics
The icon alone is not worth throwing away all you have, don't worry.
I wish I didn't prestige anyone.
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Same here. I stopped p3 for now. Because rewards are kinda lame. I am just levelling and farming flans. I will p3 after rework. So i won't lose my items, addons etc.
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Tbh, anything exclusive is already pressuring.
perhaps lot of BPs and bunch of iri shards would've done better for literally everyone
There is big difference in something that can't be acquired anymore and something that can be acquired at your will though.
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Yeah, im definitely not going to focus on getting the legacy icon.
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There is big difference in something that can't be acquired anymore and something that can be acquired at your will though.
I don't trust BHVR anymore at this point, I'm not gonna bet anything on the fact that down the line they'll never say "After recent discussions we came to the conclusion that the exclusive icon in the endgame was a mistake and for that reason we are removing it"
The cost of earning the bloody cosmetics and the icon in this moment is exactly the same, with the difference that basically anyone who prestiged is saying not to do it only for the icon because it's a more than meager "reward" 😊
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I'd rather get some worthless charm rather than getting post-game icon. While I understand they want to cleanse the economy and start with something contemporary, but this seems like a spit in our face for keeping this game active (for the little of us who decided to stay after 5 years of continuous bad decisions).
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The reward for p3ing early was the bloody cosmetics.
You know that was the reward when you went for it.
They didn't have to give anything. It's not like you lose anything
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You need to stop thinking about the icons as a reward. It's not.
1. They're improving the prestige system to remove the choice between perks and cosmetics, so that you can now obtain both equally.
2. The icon is a consolation for those who prestiged under the old, more punishing system.
That's it.
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I wish they gonna do that just now so I can stop grinding this bloodweb ######### rn.
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But why should people get free prestige levels now, depending on their unlocked perks?
Can i choose to get 150 free bloodwebs for each character that i have on p3 before the change to compensate the gear i've lost?
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Not to mention the irridencent shards that passively come from the grinding.
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Don't you got shards while grinding for the perks?
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What trigger me the most is that they are doing nothing for who like me has EVERYONE p3 full perk
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i'm so pissed about this, it seems that the only people rewarded are the ones that never prestiged, while who prestiged get only an icon for every perk, addon or offer they lost in the process. i really can't understand, i am disappointed and i feel like an idiot knowing that now they will get free prestiges in base of the number of perks they have.
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Technically it's like 80 or so of level 50 blood web, but I think you should have that?
And that's also the reason why BP would be better in a way?
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yeah it does seem like the reward is mainly for the level 50 all perkers because they get all the free prestige levels and didn't have to reset everything for a cosmetic that really doesn't look the best. They lost out on a icon? Pfft alright. The trade off for said "icon" is not trippling their grind not to mention all the addons/items they lost on the way there. It's a very bad reward. No doubts about it.
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Because of this, i'd like to know how the devs came to this reward "price"
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From what you write I guess you never prestiged anyone, did you?
Saying "it's not like you lose anything" is idiotic and stupid.
When you prestige you lose addons and offerings that you PAID with bloodpoints, and you need to spend MORE BLOODPOINTS to get back your perks. Sure, your reward is the bloody cosmetic, and that's why it was worth it, but guess what? Everyone gets that now for free.
So yes. I did lose something: a ######### heap of bloodpoints, items and offerings, including event themed ones.
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It was your decision to prestige and lose everything.
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You unlocked the bloody cosmetics, that's why you prestiged, or no?
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Oh no... You lose a special reward of a different prestige icon on the end screen... Such a loss...
You should be happy.
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But BHVR looks at us and smiles....
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While I haven’t seen the p3 icon reward, I do hope it’s pretty cool. But I’m here to say that nobody forced you to prestige your characters, they literally gave you a warning saying that you will lose everything on that character. They don’t owe anything. I have a couple maxed out p3 characters with every perk on them and a couple non prestiged characters with every perk on them. I don’t feel like I wasted my bloodpoints or anything on them because I accepted the fact that I would be losing stuff on those characters. And like somebody else said, they can’t just make the rewards extremely cool because everybody will try to get them therefore totally disrespecting the people that chose not to prestige their characters and unlock a bunch of items on them by making them lose an extreme amount of items, etc. But people who did prestige were warned. And you’re lucky, while I do have some characters p3 I don’t really have my mains p3 (besides kinda 1 but I only use sometimes). While you people may think it’s not that cool, it still is a limited time special reward that I wish I had on my mains but I’m not losing all my stuff to prestige them
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There has been one rule: prestige and lose everything. You vcan do this 3 times and get a cosmetic.
When this rule was introduced, there was no shop - so it was the only chance to get new skins.
Now is the rule: Prestige for free and keep everything you grabbed in the last x years!
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What did you expect? That BHVR would give you iri shards and auric cells? That's literally the worst idea they could make
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I'm not asking for a "special cool reward"
I'd be fine with bloodpoints since I wasted those.
You think I would have prestiged anyone if I knew the bloody cosmetics (only reason to prestige) were going to be given out later for free? Hell no
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And you knew that you would lose everything when you prestiged for the bloody cosmetic.
They told you and you said yes that's fine
If it was fine then, why isn't it fine now?
You got the bloody cosmetic earlier then all the other ones who get it now at P6
Complaining about the reward you are getting now even though there is zero reason they need to give one is entitlement
Nothing more and nothing less
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I'm P3ing characters right now because it's cheaper than doing a crapton of level 50 Bloodwebs, and I get the bloody cosmetics now and I'll get the teachables on everyone when the new system goes live. I don't do it on the characters who have cool old event stuff to lose, but I do it on everyone else.
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It was fine because it was the only way to get them.
I'm complaining (and I'm well not alone) because the "reward" doesn't feel like a reward but more like a slap in the face all considered.
Without considering the fact that they stated that the reward would not have been a cosmetic one, but an icon IS a cosmetic, no matter what they say to defend themselves.
I'm not entitled if I'm saying that an icon is a ######### "reward" for what we had to do. They chose to reward the efforts of people who prestiged, I can point out that they are not doing it properly.
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If you leveled your character to P3 and all perks, does the "all perks" part also give you additional prestige levels?
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Yes it should do. You'll likely start off about P6.
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Hopefully it should, I haven't seen anyone from BHVR confirm it though, and the wording in the article is vague. Would make no sense for it not to though. I've been trying to max out everyone during the event for the extra prestige levels.
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Yes, I also found the sentence very vague. Somehow it wouldn't be fair if only people who didn't do p3 but have all the perks get extra prestige vs people who did p3 and also have all the perks get nothing extra for maxing out. I have also leveled many Survivor and Killer P3 and all perks over the years.
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It's kind of a jerk move to just call people a fool for prestiging. There was a reason to do it and people did it.
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Imagine losing all your addons, items and perks (so about 5 million bps) and the reward is a logo. It’s not enough compensation. Think about it. The bubba mask gave everyone 6k shards. That reward is better than this garbage
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You say that, but it's better than nothing and will clearly show that you are not a new player. Yes I know a big number next to your character in the endgame screen will do the same, but a diffrent icon AND a big number will impress more.. impress those that care anyway.
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I don't understand the system's existing players' changes. What happens to a simple P3 character? What happens to a P3 Legendary (has all perks at T3 from every character)? What happens to L50 without any Prestige done to them?
So if you Prestige someone in the future, P1 unlocks T1 perks of that character for everyone, and P2 and P3 unlock T2 and T3, respectively. P4-6 unlocks that character's bloody cosmetic pieces, and P7+ is just for fun?
So if you have any L50 characters that you didn't prestige, you will need to P3 them to unlock all of their perks for future characters?
What are existing users getting exactly that new prestige won't receive? A special emblem/icon? Thanks.
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This is true for all of my killers. All of them got all perks (i have), and never got prestiged. (i only missing pig and the ring-chapter).
Well, i thing you prestiged wrong, then. while i never prestiged a killer (i am a survivor main anyway) i prestiged a lot of my survviors. And it was not that hard, because i would prestige one, spend the 1000000+ bp i had (bloodpoint limit + unclaimed challenges), and leveled them to lvl 50. Then i chose the best perks they had, and played with them until all bp-offerings and all good items were gone. There was not much left to lose. Any additional bp could be spend by starting another char without bpofferings and items on his way to prestige.
So basicly, if you already burned their good items and offerings, there was nothing to lose.
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P7-P9 gives you charms (based on the design for the perks for that character)
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