Does anyone else want bad or morally ambiguous survivors
I mean wouldn't it be cool to play as a mob boss or a hit man as survivor. I want more survivors that have more darker back stories.
What kind of character you want as a survivor?
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Yun-Jin is morally ambiguous, and I'd say the way they went at that for her was decent.
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James Sunderland murdered his wife.
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Yeah and that was great but I want more
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Who?
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Absolutely, Yun-Jin Lee is by faaar the most interesting survivor lore vise because not only she has personal connection with the killer, but because she did not expose him so her career would not go down the drain as well, it was such a breath of fresh air, I would love for us to have similar stories to that where the survivor has some connection to the killer but not as a victim only but some sort of involvement that would make them morally ambiguous
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James Sunderland. The main character from Silent Hill 2. He's a legendary skin for Heather.
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Oh right.
I don't think that counts because that's a skin
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It'd be very interesting to see.
Imagine having a survivor like Patrick Bateman-- a guy you'd think would be a killer, evil enough to be a killer, but deemed by the Entity not important enough to be one and instead relegated to be more meat for the trials.
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I mean I would count it. It's a skin that completely changes her into another character. I would agree for something like the Alessa skin because that's just Heather wearing a different person's clothes. Plus survivors are basically all skins anyways.
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Yeah I consider James as a character. Just not an original one.
If BHVR goes through the trouble of adding unique voice overs, animations, character portraits, and it even shows a different character name in the lobby, then it's a character and not just a skin
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Additionally to Yun-Jin, Jonah is also not that innocent/good either. I only know about it from others here as I still haven’t read the in-game lore, but he is a war-criminal afaik and while not intentionally doing whatever he did he apparently also doesn’t regret it much?
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I think James Sunderland doesn't count just because he's not an original character. BHVR didn't create him or his lore. It's like when people say BHVR has a bare foot fetish with their female killers, and they all have tragic they're-the-victim backstories instead of being inherently malicious people. Pig doesn't count (ish), but BHVR didn't make Pig.
Anyway, I love Yun-Jin and think her lore is awesome, but I feel like they tried the morally-grey thing again with Jonah and it really didn't work out. He comes off as unrelatable at best and completely disjointed at worse. So while I'm hoping for more, I'm also hoping it's done well.
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Nah Bateman is a whimp who likes to imagine himself being a serial Killer while in reality he is just a loser who cant even get a table at Dorsia.
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I don't think Jonah's story was like that. He clearly showed remorse from his actions by trying to pay back the families. Plus he didn't drop the bomb himself he it was just a mistake which he tried to stopped
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i just want Klaus from Umbrella Accademy
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I’d prefer a darker lore tie-in to the Newly Introduced Killer, even if the actual survivor model looked innocent. Like a sweet granny with a knack for baking cookies came in with a demented meat cleaving sophisticated/clean chef…except lore wise, that is her actual son and she was the one who twisted his mind and lead him down the road of constantly poisoning others and hiding it behind an innocent demeanor, the way she liked to poison him to keep his body frail and weak.
He got pulled in for his uniqueness to controlling poison and the impressive body count he had and she got pulled in with him right after learning her sons secret and trying to disown/distance herself from him. Besides her habitual need to try and keep her son weak and need of her care, she has always been the single mother who worked hard to survive, and was very outgoing and sociable. Everything the Entity would want to break, with just a touch of madness.
Something like that, I like when the lore sheds a new light on the survivor we’re looking at.
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Well, I guess I should finally read the story then instead of relying on what others have written about it 😅
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Isnt david king and the new alphabet survivor morally ambiguous?
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I personally think it would be interesting to get a survivor who was originally picked to be a killer but the entity changed its mind
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He showed remorse not because the bombs killed people, but because the bombs killed the wrong people.
Had the bombs of killed the rebels he would've been all fine and dandy. This is a bad thing because the rebels were the good guys in this time of chile's history, they were fighting against a cruel dictatorship.
Pixelbushes video on jonah is amazing so Id watch that for more context.
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Nea?
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I did watch his video on Jonah and i found his video to be a bit off to say thr least.
I read his story and there was nothing to indicate that the rebels were the good guys at all. In his video he seems to have assumed they were the good guys based on how the cia acted in real life
As far as I'm am concerned this is a different universe then real life so who's to say they were actually the good guys.
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jonah is a war criminal, james killed his wife (although he's not an original character), yun-jin knew ji-woon was a murderer and didn't say anything, dwight drugged his boss, mikaela reid exists, yoichi is responsible for the likely deaths of multiple people
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Wait why is Mikaela included? Dod she kill someone? And what did yoichi do?
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her existence is a crime in itself
in yoichi's lore the fishermen on the boat he chartered apparently begged him to turn back during a storm, he refused and the boat was destroyed
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