So devs, can we get your opinion on all the complaining nurse is getting?
She needs a nerf asap or disable her when the mid chapter update hits live
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lmao a bunch of people complaining will not make them disable an entire character.
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Nah nerf Pig
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Maybe longer queues Will make them nerf her or disable her.
Someone please look for a Game breaking Bug related to her, so she gets disable for 1 Month again, lmao
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Hold on, let us buff nurse and nerf deathslinger in the same patch
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Did they disable Legion when everyone was complaining they were op right after the rework? Did they disable blight when Nurse was disabled and everyone moved to instantly complain about blight? Did they disable dredge after everyone started complaining they had no counterplay and looping was impossible? No.
People will complain about anything I think the developers are used to it by now not to do kneejerk reactions making changes to things just because a very vocal few want to spam threads every day. Otherwise, a lot of things would have made bad or unfun like even endgame collapse was complained about heavily for a time and it was a great change lol.
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No she doesn’t. She’s one of two killers who can stand a chance against SWF sweat squads. When the devs finally balance around SWF and make maps more balanced with 50/50 loops and not the size of the Sahara Desert, she shouldn’t be touched.
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Oh yes, cause solo players don't exist.
Even top SWF struggle against her
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Seems to be the echo chamber and thread spam only works for killers, look they got DH nerfed and at the same time they Made DS and IW hot garbage
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It's literally the same 25 people on 25 different threads. There isn't an influx, in people, just more vehement screeching.
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Dead hard became a broken meta perk for 8 months after hit validation was added where it had as much as 70% use rate in 2022, if I looked at the forum right now I see more survivor mains complaining about things than killer mains. DS, DH, and IW were all meta perks and were changed with other killer meta perks alongside them. This wasn't an exclusively one side change like when ruin was changed with nothing else being changed it was most perks at once.
Also yes you are really good at making echo chambers and thread spams thank you for admitting that is what you are doing.
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Still more people complaining about SWF, and as long as Nurse is the only killer that have a chance against really good teams they can't nerf her.
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Why not giving every surv the option to refuse one killer? In LoL you refuse one Hero too and wont get matched with him. Or are they afraid this would kill the nurse sooner or later? Lets be honest.
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Or maybe they had real, fact based, compelling arguments.
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Its a forum and everyone can bring up a topic relating to dbd and we have free speech. So what is the problem? Afraid it could get a bigger thing sooner or later?
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It worked for DH, hopefully it does to nurse. Any nerf is well deserved on her.
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I mean, we didn't ask for the DS and IW nerf, I think the majority actually wanted DS buffed, like used for both hook stages
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You're free to bring up whatever you want, and the devs are free to correctly identify that all these complaining threads are the same biased nonsense.
What the hell do I have to be afraid of? Not everyone loses their mind over balancing passes.
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You're missing the part where there was multitudes of evidence to the rampant, overused nature of DH.
Key word, evidence. Not one offs of petty survivors DCing in an attempt to inflate the kill rate of a killer they don't like.
We are not responsible for your inability to adapt.
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So nurse arguments are not real?
A killer that's able to break the game fundamental shouldn't be in the game. Playing nurse is like playing a total different game, I remember back then when she got disabled a streamer (which im not gonna say his name) that played nurse 24/7 had to play different killers so his channel doesnt die, and you would think "if he's a god with nurse he should be good with every other killer"
Guess what? He got stomped most of the time, cause he was playing like a baby killer.
Nurse is something from 2016 that shouldnt be in the 2022 DBD.
And no, her being "hard" doesnt justify her being this overpowered - broken mess of a killer. If anything billy is way harder to master than her.
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Yes and i am free to buy dlc/auric cells or not. I am also free to dc or to hide until nurse realize i cant counter her. But here we could talk and discuss about it. And ofc this can haven an impact on devs/publisher. e.g. 50% of all survs dc when they hear the blink. What will happen then? Players have some power too. They just have to use it.
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Survs already do this by suiciding on hook
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50% of survivors will not DC on the first blink. Not everyone is so immature and unable to compete. Again, a incredibly small number of people shitposting over and over does not make for a compelling argument.
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Dont get me wrong, DH needed to be nerfed. And DH had as much evidence as nurse has right now to be nerfed.
It's just that the same 5 nurse come from the wood to defend their op toy like if their life depends on it.
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Feel free to present that evidence. We will be waiting.
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It will take months before they do something, inb4 might aswell play nurse yourself with double range and enjoy all the skills overflowing out of yourself
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We know very little about Nurse (or any killer's) performance right now. The lack of MMR transparency means it's all conjecture and speculation on our part when we talk about killer strength.
We don't know that solos struggle against Nurse in balanced matches. We don't know that SWF struggles against Nurse in balanced matches. We don't know what Nurse's kill rates are in matches where all players are within 50-100 MMR points.
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That is not a solution but a reward to the Killer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2uywpN-tn0
I tried not to use "TOP 0.1% Nurse videos" cause we all know those are weird to go against, but regular nurses that we go against most of the time (with op ######### like starstruck, 4 slowdowns, slugging builds, range addons or endgame builds)
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But in chats in Lobby i read very often that survs made the same experience if you discuss about nurse. And many complain about nurse which is no wonder if you realize that she is completely op if you know how to handle her blinks. Only Nurse Fans deny it still.
And ofc if you play as solo surv your chances ghet dramatically low. I had round about 25 matches all won by Nurse and then i decided to avoid her or to hide.
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But devs know and they dont say anything.
And from what we can see, if solos struggle against blight, do you think they're gonna perform any better against a decent nurse?
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The Devs are not stupid, they know that Nurse is broken and should not exist like this anymore. They would also never create a Killer like her (and if I am not mistaken, they also said this in a Livestream at some point).
However, they are too scared to rework her because of the backlash.
So, you should not expect anything. Sadly she is the broken thing from the past which is allowed to exist.
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that's what im doing, i have like 100 hours on her? I think. It's so fun to stack 4 slowdowns + range addons + bp cakes, but so miserable to play against.
I consider myself a decent nurse, and most of the time I win against solos, I only struggle against well-coordinated SWF and im stll able to get a 2k
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We will see how things go on. I will do my best and i will even use Lobby to discuss this topic and to encourage other survs to do something or to take part in this discussion. BTW i had matches were after first dc the next followed a few seconds later. And its not immature to stop if a challenge is not to master at all esp. if you are a solo surv and victim of this rotten mmr. Then it shows intelligence to quit and save time and nerves.
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And you just highlighted something no-one will disagree with. SoloQ is a problem. That's not a Nurse problem.
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she need her addons nerfed but theres no need to disable her lol
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Right and if you follow the discussion you see it might be not just a loud minority. Just that many players endure it does not mean they actively support it.
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Yeah, they said that on stream, and also that nurse is basically not allowing them to create powerful perks to other killers, cause blight and nurse are holding them back.
Maybe they dont want to nerf her so they dont repeat the shitshow that happend with spirit nerf.
Amazes me how everything from survivors back in 2016/2017 got butchered, yet nurse is still here.
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Most likely they will nerf CoH instead
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Then dc should be ok too if it comes to nurse. Then she will encounter only her fans .... which might not be so many LOL
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It is not a loud minority, people are just realizing that nurse mains are just lying to themselves and us for almost 5 years by using the excuse that she's "hard to play" and that's why she's perfectly fine, and since most of us haven't mastered her yet we didn't realize how OP she was.
Nurse mains are just way too loud when it comes to crying, she got a cooldown back in 2019 and they almost killed themselves, yet we all know that didnt do ######### to her, I dont take nurse mains seriously anymore cause most of them used to defend the omega blink and 5 blinks addons, lmao
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What is the survivor MMR in those games? What is the Nurse MMR?
I do lose games when I have to wait in killer queue for a bit and I get matched with players at my experience level. If I get an instant queue against 400 hr players, of course I'm going to roll them. They shouldn't be matched against me in the first place. The result is the same if I play my other mains like Hag or Spirit. But for some reason Nurse is the problem when matchmaking is bad and she's involved.
I escape a lot of against Nurse because I have a lot of practice against her. She's a skill check for both sides. All the bad habits survivors get away with against M1 killers bite them against Nurse.
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yeah i think it's a little too much, but we all know survivors will be even more weaker in the mid chapter patch, and they will have less tools to fight against nurse, so we can just see what's gonna happen.
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This is evidence? Survivors allowing a Nurse to autopilot because they are:
- Running in straight lines
- Fast vaulting right infront of Nurse who doesn't even have a blink charged
- Never ONCE doubling back or changing their angle on the second blink
- Actually, I think I saw a single player double back 2-3 times, yet even he seemed to have an allergic reaction to using LOS blockers properly
- Sitting in dead zones when it's very obvious the killer has BBQ
- Running into the Nurse for no damn reason
This SWF couldn't beat Nurse, they couldn't even beat Pig. And still, we are at an impasse because a single game does not constitute evidence. It never has, it never will. I don't know how to make that anymore black and white for you.
And now I genuinely believe you're trolling. Those survivors were utter lemmings.
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No you dont get all. As a solo survs i only have problems with the nurse. All other killers are fine even if i like some not that much but they are fine. The Nurse isnt and its because of her gamebreaking mechanics. Do not misunderstand me. As a solo its even harder but also many swf dont want to play her.
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And she struggles against top SWF, your point? Solo players not willing to adapt, improve and generally being bad at the game is not a reason to nerf her. They shouldn't be facing them in the first place, but that issue has nothing to do with her power and everything to do with the crap matchmaking and lack of killer diversity since players don't want to get bullied playing Trapper and Pig.
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All other killers are fine, except Nurse, because you say so. Got it.
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Yeah, let's just find every excuse possible, If the nurse gets the 4k is because "She's perfectly balanced and survivor were bad" but if she gets completely destroyed is because the SWF was so OP they out skilled her but not because she did mistakes.
Most of those "Counters" isnt gonna work against a good nurse cause they already expect it.
These counters just remind me to what the spirit mains used to say:
"Just vault the window, and vault it back"
"Just dont fall for the mindgame"
"Guess where she is"
"Double back"
These never worked against a good spirit and that's why she got a well deserved nerf.
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So to whom did you answered?
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Survivor main thread spam seemed to work to get Undying, Ruin, Spirit, Wraith, Freddy and Nurse nerfed over and over again. I guess you just want to see what you want to see.
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so it can secure a 100% pick rate? i think thats what the devs are trying to avoid.
surv misplays should be punished. not always protected.
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