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I added up all of the Bloodweb items I'm forced to buy but have no intention of ever using on Nurse

edgarpoop
edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,778

I have been heavily critical of the bloodweb recently. I think it often gets overlooked as far as how much it increases the grind and artificially inflates the amount of time spent in game because of how long it takes to use. Players are constantly forced to purchase items they have no intention of ever using, which inflates the real value of their desired add ons and offerings.

I went through my inventory and added up all my "dead space". That is, I added up how many add ons and map offerings I have that I'll never use and calculated how much BP I've been forced to waste on them. The only add ons I use on Nurse are range and recharge. Not included are the add ons I use.

Ultra rare (Matchbox, Bookmark): 189 add ons, 1,323,000 BP spent

Purple (Bad Man, Campbell, Jenner): 700 add ons, 4,200,000 BP spent

Green (Anxious, Ataxic, Spasmodic): 1056 add ons, 5,280,000 BP spent

Yellow (Bad Man, Catatonic, Dull, Pocket): 1947 add ons, 7,778,000 BP spent

Brown (Spoon, Flannel, Comb, Horse): 2306 add ons, 6,918,000 BP spent

Map Offerings (I only use Autohaven, MacMillan, and Midwich)- 395 offerings, 1,975,000 BP spent

Total useless things: 6198 addons+offerings, 27,474,000 wasted BP


Kind of absurd, right? I have 27.5 million BP on one character alone in wasted inventory. I will never use any of these things. I have no way to avoid purchasing these things short of not spending BP altogether. How is this ok?

Delete the bloodweb. It's an archaic progression tool that forces players to waste BP. This gets worse considering you're essentially halving BP gains with the BBQ and WGLF changes. The grind is still egregious.

Comments

  • lauraa
    lauraa Member Posts: 3,195
    edited July 2022

    Right now I'm preparing for the endurance meta by hoarding as many Judith's Tombstones as humanly possible. Once this new web hits, it's gonna be such a huge PITA to get good addons for him, I'm not looking forward to it.

  • Khelendrose2020
    Khelendrose2020 Member Posts: 207

    Not to mention how many Murky Bottles I keep having to buy.

  • FeelsBadMan
    FeelsBadMan Member Posts: 570

    My Trapper and his stockpile of ~200 Padded Jaws would like a word with you.

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596

    But why are you not using the others? Why do have to play with the best addons every time? It's not like Nurse needs them to perform good.,

  • Mewishis
    Mewishis Member Posts: 305

    Because the addons are simply boring or not useful because Nurse is so strong already in the right hands they made most of her addons either awful or just not good enough to bother using. The only addons worth running in my opinion are recharge and range, fatigue I'm iffy about not to mention I believe some are bugged and don't work properly and I don't like the 3rd blink addons never have even before the rework.

    So why exactly would anyone want to run the meme addons or just not useful addons? To intentionally make your experience less fun? To challenge yourself? Sure it may be fun for you, but it's not for everyone doesn't mean you can dictate what people can and cannot do.

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,911

    I've been talking about this type of thing and no one listens. It's so weird.

    Especially with the old prestige system. Players, we only get to use the tiniest percent of the BP we earn its ridiculous. THey need to allow us to sell items back somehow.

    Just think of the MIST offerings alone. I probably have 7 trillion mist INCREASING items on killers. Seriously ######### is that a thing for anyways? NO killer wants MORE mist. Sure there is super niche situations where it COULD in theory help but overall absolutely NO ONE uses mist as killer. Yet we get forced to buy ALL THREE tiers of increasing offerings.


    Don't even get me started on the BP offerings items that aren't 100% in all 4 categories. Every single one of them actually causes the player to have LESS bp overall due to their gains being so tiny.

    Proceeds to get started on the BP offerings that aren't 100% in all categories....

    Examples

    Ardent Shrike Wreathe 100% BONUS in Sacrifice.

    It costs 5,000 BP to buy

    The max score per category is 8,000

    The max you can PROFIT is 3,000 BP from that and you can ONLY do that if you MAX that score category.

    It's worse with the 4,000 and 3,000 BP versions as those only award 1,000 max bonus and 2,000 max bonus. FOR MAXIN THE CATEGORY.

    Gee it's a good thing killers aren't forced to buy up to 6,000 BP mist offerings at times....oh wait....they are. Being forced to buy ONE purple mist offerings negates the MAXIMUM potential value of SIX EFFING matches of 100% gain of the grey ones. How are people not ever talking about this?😂😂 I've literally had blood webs where I was forced to buy up to 4 purple mist offerings for a killer.

    THis means the vast majority of the time you WONT be achieving the max bonus which is already tiny AF.

    Ultimately if they didn't exist and you didn't need to buy them. You would have more BP to use overall lmao.

    Grey needs to cost 1,000 instead of 3,000 and the 5,000 ones should cost 3,000. That would be a START. Even then the percentages should all be DOUBLED and conssider that a start...

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596

    Did I dictate you to use lesser addons? I just don't understand why someone feels inclined to always use the best stuff, esp. when you are very experienced with a killer, as you have to be with all that addons. It just seems immensly boring for me. But everyone as they like.

  • KolbyKolbyKolby
    KolbyKolbyKolby Member Posts: 655

    Deleting the bloodweb would be a nice change. I feel like all killers should be reworked and simply have 3 or 4 permanent addons that don't run out.

    These addons would exist not to make them stronger, but to change how they play. Think of Michael Meyers, and how his kit could have his regular base kit, one permanent addon to make him scratched mirror, one permanent addon for double iris, and so on.


    Things you bring that change a bit of how the power works and how you use it for each killer. Give the plague her meme brown addon and then some others for the shotgun or flamethrower style vomit.

    Lots of creative ways you could simply remove the need for bloodwebs and treat addons more as different skill lines of sorts that could be played with.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,778

    The point is that players shouldn't be forced to spend their bloodpoints on things they don't want. I can through this exercise on every killer/survivor. I just chose to do it on Nurse because I have the most BP spent on her.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446

    Even something as simple as the option to sell back items at 50% of their cost would help immensely.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,778
    edited July 2022

    Oh yeah. I didn't get into every offering because it's just depressing. But yeah, I'm not sure how this has flown under the radar for so long.

    Yes, players can use other add ons or whatnot. But why should they have to? Why is BHVR so adamant that players can't get the perks they want or play the way they want to unless put in a massive constant grind?

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,911

    Yup, they're there simply to SLOW leveling down when you would think it speeds it up. Hell they wanna take away our BBQ and WGLF points. Please taek away the trash point offerings too....except cakes, streamers etc. Those actually are worth running as you can gain 28,000 BP from each one.....better than....3 thousand...