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Killer tierlist - How powerfull will be new DS againts each killer

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Note: It's not by order from best killer to worst killer

New DS will only be a bit of a problem for weaker killers while the strong killers will just eat it like it's their daily breakfast, laugh at you while eating it and then catch you right after that with no problem.

Comments

  • burt0r
    burt0r Member Posts: 4,314
    edited July 2022

    Newsflash: That was the devs goal.

    The only way to change the meta they know is to break it with a sledgehammer into uselessness.

  • Sadako_Best_Girl
    Sadako_Best_Girl Member Posts: 662

    To be honest, I am kind of okay with the switch from DS to OTR. OTR allows for much more interactive gameplay while also functioning as an anti-tunnel perk, even if it is much less effective than DS to deter tunneling and camping. Plus I get more STBFL stacks for my Sadako builds so that's neat.

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 6,865

    idk how much credibility this interpretation has. My guess is that BHVR can safely reduce the time cause the amount of times that DS is used, Survivors get away.

  • DEMONANCE
    DEMONANCE Member Posts: 861

    yeah seems about right

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,714

    Yeah, the 3 second duration seems slightly too short. I think Mandy mentioned they had a lot of internal discussion on that number and ended wanting to err on the side of it being maybe too short and then monitor it in live to see if it needs to be tweaked up? My guess is ultimately it will end up being increased slightly again later, maybe to 3.5 or 4 seconds, just to help get the survivors a little more out of range of things like Pyramid Head’s or Demogorgon’s special attacks.

  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 7,951
    edited July 2022

    You cant even step on a trap a few seconds after DS, making it even more questionable

    Post edited by EQWashu on
  • Zexbunny
    Zexbunny Member Posts: 217

    DS should stun different killers a different amou.t of time tbh. A 3 second stun against trappper, pig, or onryo? Fine. A 3 second stun against huntress? Useless. A 3 second stun against Nurse? Did it even happen?

    Devs say they want to reduce camping and tunneling because they aren't fun strategies (honestly, for either side) but then buff the strategies and barely give survivors anything to combat it. Oh look, a 5 seconds BT. Killers wait out the current BT. Lol. And now killers don't have to worry about DS.

    The change would be fine if they actually did enough to combat camping and tunneling. But they did not. They pretty much just made another must run metaperk as a bandaid and called it a day.

  • Ksekwlothreftis
    Ksekwlothreftis Member Posts: 63

    I beg to differ. Tunnelling and camping ate the only win conditions killers have. Ive never seen a genuine killer main saying tunnelling and camping are unfun. Its only survivors that want free escapes and unlimited bullying of the killer. I frankly enjoy proxy camping as machinegun Huntress and hitting nasty shots. Dont really care if its unfun to my opposition lol cause im having a blast

  • tendyhands
    tendyhands Member Posts: 268

    Yeah the problem with this whole "change the meta" idea is they didn't buff anything else to make something else useful. Killers got minor nerfs to extremely strong perks like bbq and noed. All the best survivor perks are useless now.

  • ElleGreen
    ElleGreen Member Posts: 1,063

    OTR Is just a more powerful less fun version of DS atleast DS had counterplay the direction they are going Is super boring IMO

  • Zexbunny
    Zexbunny Member Posts: 217

    Congrats I guess on enjoying doing nothing most of the game. I know plenty of killer mains who enjoy the chase. The chase is the only fun thing about the game. I'd rather throw the game for a good chase than to sit at a hook and stare. If I wanted to watch paint dry, I'd go do that instead.

  • Ksekwlothreftis
    Ksekwlothreftis Member Posts: 63

    I love people who make assumptions about how i play. Its like in order to get downs u dont have to chase survivors, the game provides them for u. Its funny when your only argument is calling others bad in this game. If u wanna throw games for bad chases u do u. I dont enjoy throwing games because i wanna kill 1 specific survivor and lose the other 3 and that makes my playstyle vastly different from yours. If u think taking every chase no matter what makes u a good and fair killer then u are not a good killer in the first place. Have fun with tbags and end game chat ig

  • JackOfTrades
    JackOfTrades Member Posts: 477

    Personally, if the Surv. is contaminated, a Tier 3 Nemesis could be on the top tier (IMO)

  • Zexbunny
    Zexbunny Member Posts: 217

    Oh no! Not the crouch spam! Anything but the crouch spam! My feelings get hurt when survivors press a button in a video game!

  • INoLuv
    INoLuv Member Posts: 464

    DS will remain OP, the nerf was great, killer should not be punished for rushing his objective, must killers will still struggle, pyramid is overrated there

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,116

    Why should it be harder for the Killers in the lower tier to deal with DS compared to those which you labelled as "mild annoyance"? They are all 4,6 m/s (except for Myers in Tier 1), so completely the same like Trapper.

    IMO the only Killer where DS is slightly stronger is Hag, because she is only 4,4 m/s and does not have any Ranged Ability or an ability to increase her mobility.

    But in general, all Killers will laugh about DS and Survivors who still bring DS have a wasted Perk Slot.

  • foodie
    foodie Member Posts: 439

    As a hag main, ds is not an issue. IIMO its not an issue for any killer since its easily avoidable. I'm saying this as someone who hasn't been stunned by ds in years.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,116

    What I mean is that Hag is the only Killer who is slower than most Killers AND does not have an ability which is used in a chase. But then again, even if you get hit with DS as Hag, it is not like it matters.

    And what I dont understand is how is there any difference between Trapper and e.g. Sadako when it comes to getting hit by DS.

  • foodie
    foodie Member Posts: 439

    What do you think hag's ability is? her ability is for chase. just as an example: https://streamable.com/7dqg1p

    My play style is different, I guess. I don't tunnel if I can avoid it and if I have no choice I keep an idea of how much time has passed after the unhook or whether i have seen the survivor do something that would cancel DS.