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So, is the update going to be tomorrow or will it be postponed?
Because imo, I rather have it be postponed by a week. Mostly because there was a big difference between having enough time to p3 the characters I wanted to p3 before the announcement that you'd get 2 levels per prestige rather than 1.
I would have had plenty of time to get all characters p1, or the characters p3 that I wanted to be p3. But after the announcement, I've been grinding my ass off in the time that was remaining, but with horrible survivor BP and switching every 5 killer matches to spend bp on survivors has simply been too time consuming to get everyone p1, let alone people who have even less time to play.
I cant wait for the update to come, but I honestly wanted to have 1 more week to get my final characters sorted. With teachables being unlocked at lvl 40 and no reason to level further it taking about 400k bp to go from 40 to 50, that means people who p2/p3'd the characters based on the previous info would simply not have enough time to earn the bloodpoints to get the remaining cast to lvl 50 after the updated info.
For killers, this isnt really that big of a deal, because odds are that you're gonna level those killers at one point anyway as their gameplay is unique. But unless a survivor basekit rework is planned(which I would be all for, it would be nice to have different gameplay by playing different survivors), there wasnt really a reason to prioritize prestiging everyone untill the updated info surrounding it. Heck, many people I've told about this werent even aware of that change untill last friday, some didnt even know at all and would have wanted to know earlier.
quick edit to shorten the logic behind this post:
p0 all perks=21 million bp; all perks=6 prestige levels, no border
p3 lvl 1=7 million bp; 21 million bp = 3x p3 lvl 1=18 prestige levels, also a border
21 million bp=21 million bp anyone can agree on that
so why does this result in:
6 prestige(no border)=18 prestige(+border)
The fair way would be:
15 prestige(no border)=18 prestige(+border)
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Who knows, but im assuming tomorrow to keep with their 3 week schedule
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I don't think they stated when it will released.
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You're postponed.
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They never give the community a direct answer I think all anyone knows Is this month
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Then I honestly hope they reward people massively based on how much they prestiged. Because before the announcement, I have had 12 characters p3 all perks, and the reward on the PTB was a measely 1.2 million BP, while the characters that were p3 lvl 1 had the exact same reward as those with all perks. And to me it was implied that having all perks would get you an additional reward other than just the special p3 portrait.
So right now, I am honestly expecting to get a portion of the 27 million BP per character, which was needed to unlock all the perks(in reality I must have spend at least 30 million per character), back, because otherwise I would kinda see it as a massive insult to those who actually grinded a lot getting the same rewards as people who "only" spend 6-7 million bp. I pretty much quit the PTB once I noticed that the rewards were exactly the same.
So I hope they either changed the rewards so that people who did put in more effort would have that to reflect(because lets be honest, losing 2 prestiges worth of addons and offerings isnt that big of a deal compared to the 27 million bp investment), or at the very least give those people an amount of BP based on how many perks they unlocked to put into other characters. It would be a bit weird if someone who has everyone at p1, having spend about 120 million, would have more progression overall than someone who spend time earlier to get p3 all perks on roughly a quarter of the cast, having spend 400+ million BP just on those characters.
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They haven't announced it yet so it might be next week, but they do tend to announce these at the least minute so who knows?
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You can't postpone something that was never announced. The last midchapter came out on Wednesday, and the PTB for this update came on a Wednesday, so you can't say it'd be weird if the update didn't drop tomorrow.
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They never said you were getting anything else I don't know why people keep claiming they did.
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well yeah, but they did announce the AoT crossover date, and those tend to be released 1 day after the update. I would be quite surprised if the AoT things were added before the update. Unless tomorrow is a hotfix update, which would be very weird to have right before a big update.
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50:30 anniversary stream
"we're working on a fair way to reward players for their time investment and dedication, once the update takes effect"
This, this is what people refer to when they expect fair compensation. Because prestiging 3 times is just a sacrifice of items, addons and offerings. Getting all perks is a much, MUCH bigger time investment and dedication than just getting lvl 50 3 times. People back in the day either went for all perks and no prestige at all, or prestige 3 and get all perks afterwards. There isnt really anyone who has prestige 1 and all perks, or prestige 2 and all perks. Its pretty much only p0 all perks, p3 and few perks and p3 all perks.
Let alone that the prestige levels right now are not really a nice indication either, since you get at most p6 without any prestige, while someone at prestige 2 will get the same reward in prestige while only having invested 15% of the BP. So people who were 7x more dedicated and invested 7x more time will get the exact same reward. And that is just comparing p2 and p0 all perks. Is that a fair way to reward players for their time investment? No, its not. People who invested 7x less will get the exact same rewards. Having p1 on everyone, again, is only 120 million BP, and after the update, will give EVERYONE all teachable perks at t3. Where, if you have all perks only 10 characters, you'd have spend 270 million BP, excluding all other characters that you would have leveled for teachables(getting the remaining 49 characters lvl 40 is about 1.5 million BP, so thats another 74 BP on top of that).
Its not a fair reward for the time investment and dedication if someone with half the effort gains more value.
So yeah, everyone is expecting more than just the conversion. Otherwise, its an unfair way to reward players for their time investment and dedication, contradicting their statement.
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The BP they gave on the PTB was.. for the PTB - they NEVER said anything about giving BP once MidChapter went Live. They specifically said the extra BP was for the PTB to help people get chars up etc.
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The devs literally said to manage your expectations
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en·ti·tled
/inˈtīdld,enˈtīdld/
adjective
- believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
Your "compensation" for all your "sacrifice" is the prestige bonus levels - tada - everyone gets the same "compensation" for their "sacrifice."
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Yeah, to not expect cosmetics, which was not great news, but again, I am purely talking about their statement of "fair way to reward players for their time and dedication"
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Look i get you are upset but those are the rewards lol
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Yeah, everyone who reached p3 will get the same p3 reward, people who went the way of getting perks would also get compensated for that fairly.
Nothing I said contradicts that. The thing is, a "fair reward for time investment and dedication". The bonus levels isnt really a fair reward since there isnt anything you'd get from that. Lets say, 3 months from now, can you tell the difference between someone who was p0 with all perks and someone who p1'd everyone? Yes, the person who p1'd everyone had to spend less time and effort to unlock new content and would thus have more progression.
Is it a fair reward if someone who spend less time and dedication gets the better deal? No, obviously not. That is not entitlement, that is basic logic. You can get 120 million BP in about 500 hours of gameplay, that would be all perks, all characters p3(at the very least), both killers and survivors. Then you have someone who has all perks on 1 survivor, and all perks on all killers because prestiging wasnt worth it, thats 29 characters on p6, not really unlocking anything new for killers since you already have all the perks. No portrait either. All survivors would have 3 t3 perks. Thats 783 million BP, which would take about 3500 hours.
Now, again, is it a FAIR compensation for time investment and dedication, if someone with 500 hours will have more perks on more characters while having an average equal prestige as someone who has 3500 hours? No, its not. Its not the same sacrifice, its not the same compensation, and it surely isnt entitlement to expect people who has spend 7x more hours in the game to recieve the better deal. In fact, its quite odd that someone who has spend 1/7th of their time, get a better reward.
Seriously, how can you even say they get the same compensation? They dont. This is like working at a job for 7 years, and someone who has spend 1 year doing the same job gets a 50k end of year bonus while you get a 20k end of year bonus, even though they stated that everyone would get a fair compensation for their time investment. That is not entitlement, that is common sense.
I am not asking for cosmetics, nor am I asking for charms, I am simply asking for a way to close the progression gap between players who invested more time and dedication so that people with 3k+ hours do not get less of a reward than people with less than 1k hours. Entitlement is demanding 3x more reward, demanding an actual fair compensation is not.
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Which is why I am making this post. It would have made sense for p3 characters now to recieve t3 on update release. Its literally the lack of time to get everyone sorted out.
Its literally been 5 days since the update going from needing 240 million BP to unlock all perks so you better focus on your favourite characters to get the unique portrait instead, to "nvm, if you happened to have characters at lvl 50, now you can get their t3 perks on everyone for free"
That is a really short notice to go on, hence me expecting them to change the rewards again. To me, all perks is a bigger time investment and loss of resources than p3. Getting all perks on 1 character means you could p3 5 characters. Yet p3 will recieve 6 additional prestige levels, where all perks will only get you 5 as killer and 6 as survivor. Since you have 5 characters p3, that means you'd get a total of 45 prestige levels overall. So wouldnt the "fair" compensation be to give up to 45 levels of prestige to the singular characters that actually gained all perks? Its the same amount of BP spend, after all, its the same time investment.
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- This is not a job - so that comparison is non-sensical to say the least. This is a game you are choosing to waste your time on.
- Fair is a subjective term - I think the rewards are fair.
- No one said the SAME compensation for "effort" - they said FAIR and frankly I think the rewards are fair. I am not some BHVR fanboi, but honestly I think how they are rolling this is out is fair to everyone.
- No - What you are saying is entitlement 100%. You think because you put x amount of time and x amount of fake currency into a character in a game you should get more than others who can't waste as much time on a game than you. I have almost 6k hours in game BUT have put BILLIONS into a few characters and only P1'd the majority of them - should I get more than you or anyone who has "only" played 5k hours?? I mean I have "sacrificed" more than you/others. See how entitled that sounds? Guess we are just built different - because I am grateful for the bonuses that I am getting on other characters and happy for others who are also getting those bonuses.
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Ive been able to P1 most of the Killers I want so Ill be able to have a decent starting build, or in Sadako amd Dredges case have all perks on both so theyll be bumped, so if its tomorrow Ill be happy. If it isn't I can focusbon getting Billy and Nurse p1'd
Also in case you are wondering, Ill be able to run on all my Killers what I feel to be a decent all around build of Devour Hope, Agitation, STBFL, and Call of Brine. Devour isbthe weakest perk there, but its my favorite perk so itll be nice to now have that on all Killers
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- doesnt matter, its an analogy. The core of the analogy is fairness.
- Fair is somewhat subjective, but its quite obvious that someone who has spend 7x as much time and effort getting the short end is not fair by any standard.
- Fair means that regardless of your position, you can agree with the rewards. Since p0 all perks equals 3x p3 lvl 1 in terms of time investment, the fair distribution is an equal amount of prestige for both. Now, one gets 6 free levels, the other gets 18 free levels AND a border. Even if you think the 2 levels per prestige is fair(and I agree on that), the time investment and dedication obviously is not. 21 million BP should roughly equal 21 million BP. One should not be 3x more valuable than the other. If there is a minor discrepancy, like 15 prestige levels for one, 18+border for the other due to sacrificing addons etc. Sure, it would be fair. But you cannot claim that 6 prestige + no border is a fair compensation when the other gets 18 prestige.
- No, again, its not. And yes, you should, again, you have spend more time and effort on it. The FAIR way for compensation is to give something for that additional 1000 hours. That doesnt mean that 5k hours should get 1/6th less than what you get, but you should get something more(since you spend more bp on perks, this should naturally show up in the conversion, no extra attention needed).
This isnt about how nice the rewards are, its simply how unfair it is to grant someone who has spend 21 million BP only 1/3rd of the reward that someone else also spend 21 million BP. The total investment is the same, so the fair compensation would be to reward both players with a roughly equal amount of prestige.
21 million bp=21 million bp anyone can agree on that
so why does this result in:
6 prestige(no border)=18 prestige(+border)
The fair way would be:
15 prestige(no border)=18 prestige(+border)
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You do you - I was raised to appreciate bonuses and not whine about them; which let's be real - you are not OWED. It's a game - it's not anywhere near analogous to something like a job - but hey you think what you want to think - it has no bearing on my opinion nor will it affect the bonuses that people receive.
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Thats why I made the post in the first place, so that it could be potentially reconsidered as there is a discrepancy between fair treatment and having 1 side get 1 character p6 and the other side getting 3 characters p9 for the same "dedication".
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