Spine Chill counters Stealth Killers harder now

It's not a "bug", in the patch notes they specifically made it show the notification within 36 meters.

Whether or not that's a good idea is another topic, but it's not a bug, it's what the devs said they were doing in the notes.

For thise not aware, there's a note in the patch notes of known issues that spinechill is working backwards. It lights up bright when at max distance, and starts to deteriorate the closer the killer is as opposed to it being low when killer is at a distance and brighter the closer the killer gets. Maybe when the killer is undetected, the reversal is bugged and counts as max radar reporting instead of showing nothing?

This entire patch I've been excited for that spinechill would no longer trigger on undetected without line of sight. If they reverted this where spinchill flat out always alerts when near, I'm probably just going to retire from DBD. Stealth killers is one of the few things I actually enjoy about killer, but they have been poor killers for far too long.

I've report this in the bug report forums. They may think it's a minor issue and not realize it's completely game breaking for stealth killers.

No, the dev specifically said in the patch notes that they thought the reason why spine chill was strong ..... was from 6% vaulting speed..definately not the reason why anyone was using the perk. spine chill+resil is niche perk combo. you would see 20% pick-rate on resilience if this was the reason.

well they could just add a small TR icon debuff for players with impaired hearing. it would work same way as any other debuff(like exposed). I highly doubt 20% of players were hearing impaired though. It sounds more like an excuse. It was mainly be used by players that enjoy survivor stealth gameplay(often used by Claudette mains).

I don't mind them weakening a meta perk, but if you weaken this perk, survivor have no other viable perks for stealth other than this perk(excluding iron will), so i think its slightly unfair for them to completely kill a play-style.

No, the notification has nothing to do with line of sight. The only thing affected by line of sight is the action speed bonus.

Fixed at 36m, stealth killers are dead.

It should be changed so that the perk glows only in response to TR.

I don't think you quite know what you're arguing. Reread, collect your thoughts, report back, sunshine.

well yeah some people like you used it for vault speed, but why most people spine chill is strong is due to OP post. To be honest, I don't know how you balance a perk that completely removes the concept of terror radius in the game.

its kinda like iron will, its hard to balance a perk that almost completely removes the drawbacks of being injured(minus blood-marks). like what you do? give killer free bloodhound when facing iron will? that also makes the perk pretty weak. those two perks are hard to balance.

well down the line, perhaps survivor perks might get a buff if they're not impactful enough from being killed from the meta position.

It's really not that deep, BHVR clearly isn't scared of criticism as they constantly make controversial decisions. After feedback from the community they simply took a step back to think about the HUGE implications of a single perk change, regarding those that relied on it to play the game. I think BHVR's quick u-turn on this should be appreciated (even though there should be better base game accessibility options).

BHVR should have another look at Spinechill AFTER they add better accessibility options. I suggest adding an option to use DBD mobile's heartbeat indicator which is actually amazing as I had to play without sound once and it was still a good experience.

I have hearing issues and I use spine chill to gain some awareness because I have a hard time identifying where sounds are coming from... but the new spine chill kind of confuses me so I stopped using it altogether...

I'm basically playing with full on anxiety because it's like I'm 100% deaf

They changed it where if the killer has line of sight on you, YOU get a BUFF on speeds. That's the only thing line of sight does, now. You're guaranteed to know if there is ever a killer near you at any given moment now permanently and without cooldown without any line of sight requirements. It is now literally IMPOSSIBLE for a stealther to sneak up on someone. They are given 32 meters of advance notice which is plenty of time to run away.

That has always been spine chill...

No. It used to require killer looking in the survivors direction. Killers could counterplay by crabwalking. Now they are notified if they are near period

Just about every killer i know and have watched always did, especially streamers. Mind you, only stealth killers did this. BHVR even said themselves that one of the reasons for the PTB nerf was because of people having to wall awkwardly to generators.

I'm personally will be retiring from killer if this stays just because the only killers i enjoy playing are stealthers for jumpscare shenanigans. They are just so much different than standard killers, and they are fun to make work. However, my main is The Ghost Face, so it's hard enough as it is with how easy he gets revealed, so you really depend on sneaking up on people, or just doing mini-stalks mid-chase (less fun). However, with this new spinechill (and once people figure out how busted it is, now - a guaranteed safety bubble), sneaking up on people with spinechill will be impossible. The Ghost Face's strength is gutted, and he's demoted to a basic m1 killer with no power. So yeah, I'll be retiring from killer personally, as stealth play is no longer an option. Guess that means survivor main, again.

Yea as I said above in a response...I know the game needs accessibility options but to do a total 180 from what they were supposed to do with it just defeats the purpose of it's balancing issue that they stated they wanted to do with it in the first place.

And I think it's very unfair that a stealth killer has to awkwardly crabwalk to use their power. Spine Chill countering stealth just felt awful for stealth killers.

As for hearing impairment, I agree that they absolutely should add a visual indicator, even something as simple as a picture thet fills up on the HUD would work, like how Spine Chill works now. And one for lullaby. Of course, toggleable.

Agreed, that's all that had to change. Add that TR icon toggleable to the HUD and everyone's satisfied, expect the ones who think a single perk should invalidate a killers power.

That's only the action speed bonus. It still lights up when the killer is in a certain proximity. Unlike before, though, it lights up, period, not solely when they're looking at you.

Can we at least get clarification from BHVR is this is a bug? I mean, this is game breaking for stealth killers. If it's a bug, when cool...we can wait for a fix, but if it's intended...stealthers have just become m1 killers with no powers...well except Myers, but he is sort of a hybrid.