To everyone who's rejoicing this patch

"Gen Rushing was addressed" a toolbox with 1 good addon or brand new part literally negates the Nerf entirely..... jeeez and i dont want to even talk about Prove thyself combined with toolboxes. can people just chill out and stop overeacting.

Nurses / blights abusing the DS stun timer definetly needs to be adressed but other than that , this is by far one of the best patches for game health. (holding W nerfed , E to outplay a killer fixed , pre-droping pallets is no longer that effective , so people are now forced to learn how to loop properly to win instead of relying on BS perks / comp strats and faster gens speeds.

soo far am enjoying my games on both sides

the point is if you hate slower gens them bring a gen speed build if you dont bother , them play with whatever you want jeeez people have to adapt to a more balanced gen speed. but having faster gens speeds by default was BS and am glad that is no longer the case.

POP got nerfed , ruin got nerfed , pain resonance aswell , corrupt, my man there is no excuse to complain about gens now.

also if you are gen jockey them whatever ,just run resilience for a aditional 9% gen speed bonus just by staying injured if you also hate thana.

🙄 just take it easy not everything in the game are "GENS".

As I said, they give up from the beginning. When I can finish a whole gen + get 2 unhooks and 3 heals in the time it takes the others to finish 1 gen. Then something is off.

You made it about perks in the first sentence of your post. You said new players wouldn't get purple perks anymore and that it would take 3 prestiges to get there....that was blatant misinformation because that has never been the case during this patch or before.

Yes if you took all perks away from both sides pre patch Killers would win because survivors were dependent on their crutch perks like now after DH and DS got nerfed. Killers are SUPPOSED to be powerful because that's the point of a asymmetrical game. The ideal balance for a game like this would be 100% power Killer while each survivor should be 25% power each so that if they work as a team they could deal with the Killer.

Honestly? I have always been extremely survivor biased and feel the game should have been MORE survivor sided than it already was, solely to prevent my queue times from increaseing; however, after tasting these salty tears, I am actually kind of okay with my queues increasing just for the schadenfreude.

At high mmr.

When the survivors know how to play the game and do not have a weak link throwing the match. Lol.

Tournament level is where you typically see that, and it trickles down. Matchmaking specifically has quite clearly been tweaked since its (mmr's) inception, so you know, getting an actual high level lobby is more rare than it was a few months ago. But it certainly still happens, and it will always remind even the most timid of killer mains that pretend the game is killer sided because of their success against bots just how soul crushing difficult the game can be. I remember watching Otz wildly swinging at shack window where a survivor taunting him like some frantic beginner because of how flustered he got under the overwhelming pressure of competence. And that guy thinks survivors should be enabled to unhook with no counterplay, just to put things into perspective.

Ah yes. The old "Bandaid" tactic. Try to dangle that carrot to help incentivize players swapping back and forth. Doesn't make one side wildly less dog ######### in comparison.

I have 2k hours. Been playing since around Oct 2020. I was Red Rank when I like to think it mattered. Considering you had to actually play the game and do objectives to get and keep your rank. My lobbies have been filled with people who have 20-200 hours of the game. Walking around doing nothing, hiding in the basement when the killer is nowhere near them, and blowing gens every time a skill check comes up. It's not a "recent" thing with the patch. MMR in general is dog #########. It doesn't take into account how many gens you do, unhooks, heals, loops, etc. It just counts if you escape or not. Same with killer, only kills count to go up. Nothing else. So no matter how well you do all around. The system only cares about your bottom line. And you get banished to playing with people who have no idea what they're doing because of it.

And it's been long enough. Lets stop using the term "Gen Rushing" when that's all they/we can do. It's our ONE objective. If you're being "Rushed", you aren't pressuring enough. The only relative term is camping and tunneling. And the Gen Rush term was only ever and will only ever be used by killers who don't overall pressure the map. They chase one person for far too long, ignore all other things going on around them, then say they were gen rushed when multiple gens start going off.

Here's the thing. The pallet break and door bust changes are fine. Though let me edit my initial statement and say coupled with the perk that lets you take less time recovering from a pallet hit, it's absolutely ######### rough. However the increase in recovery from a hit/miss were already something a perk gave you. Which now also stacks with said perk. Why did they need this? On top of that, they also got a decrease in time it takes to get to Bloodlust stages. Also why. Gens were already being increased in time, meaning there was slightly more fluff while gen regression perks got buffed as well. All of that did not need to be coupled together.

DH and DS needed nerf. I never used those anyway. But far too many people relied on them.

Did you say the same thing when killers were upset about not being able to rely on Ruin to pressure the map for them?

Honestly, I do not get it.

I played only survivor since the patch dropped and only two rounds of killer to check how the faster recovery and pallet kicking worked. I die plenty but usually we work out 2 escapes. This is pretty good.

Camping and tunneling are still there but they do not feel worse. If anything they feel better because many people are using "Off the Record" now which allows better unhooks. Still an issue that should be adressed thou.

I think once survivors figure out their new meta and get used to the shorter speedboost things will balance out a bit more. Same for the new Dead Hard. I think people are sleeping on it now and ignore just how good it can be once they get used to it.

While I was dead I watched my better teammates and they were able to put in quit some work with those perks. Also the new Botany Knowledge is dope and can save your team plenty of time.

So overall this patch feels good as a survivor. I especialy enjoy the nerfed Hex: Ruin when Killers pair it with Undying...

Few killers can force camping effectively. With a few situational exceptions survivors have the chance to counter this with coordination alone; 2nd chance perks like bt aren't even needed but do additionally contribute to the odds of success. With the new base bt a single survivor now has enough time to reposition and cover the unhooked until hit or a fresh pallet is reached.

Camping is not a guaranteed kill just as an unhook is not guaranteed to be safe. There is always the possibility of success or failure for both sides.

Is that a joke?

Dead Hard wasn't removed by just doing a totem.

We hear this every patch. Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

I would refer you to my reply 3 posts above your response.