Killers should not let survivors win

I dunno man. I just came off a LONG losing streak as survivor. Everyone is still adjusting to all the changes from the new patch and i felt bad. I still have lots of flans on my artist so I loaded some up and had a few games where I double hooked and let everyone farm and leave. It felt nice and the survivors sure did seem to appreciate it.

Must we always tryhard?

Maybe the killer felt bad about the ongoing bloodbath in mid/lower ranks?

It makes complete sense, it's not a valid escape.

The hatch can spawn at 5 gens, it just requires that 3 other survivors are dead. That's a loss for the survivors.

The hatch then provides a 50/50 hail mary for the survivor. It's not an earned escape, it's a consolidation prize.

That's why it's not counted in escape figures, and why it's MMR neutral. Survivors don't gain MMR for a hatch escape and killers don't lose MMR either.

Like I said, you're literally wasting everyone's time, yours inuded, if you think refusing the hatch is going to send any kind of message.

Eh, if somebody quits in the first minute, I've decided to stop crushing the team and go easy on people (especially if they put double points into play). I'm so behind on this grind it's become better to just farm it out when this happens and get something out of it.

I'm still going make sure at least one more is dead, but I wait to see if anybody volunteers themselves first before I pick a victom. That way it at least comes out to a draw.

However, if you want to crush them, have at it. I'm of a mind that most players aren't trying to bend the metrics to their will anyway, so the law of numbers will wash it all out anyway.

How do you expect me to track down an off-hand remark made by the devs months if not years ago?

It doesn't make any kind of sense to include it in escape figures, because it's not an earned escape, survivors do not need to win in order to get the hatch.

It is neutral, it doesnt count as an escape, and it doesn't count as a kill.

Ok, so first of all... Come again? Now it's not ok for a killer to let a survivor they respect live? What about survivors who kill themselves for the killer? I've seen both and honestly this is a much healthier alternative than everyone sweating every single game and hating on the other side. If you want to be stressed by a game, good for you, but many, probably most of us, want to play the game, sit back, relax, and enjoy the experience because life is stressful enough.

I know you might think that's why the numbers are so low that the devs decided to do something about it, but let's be real here. If this was the issue, why now? Why now all of a sudden would the numbers go down? It doesn't happen more often than before, does it? So if it makes any difference at all, this difference would be more or less constant over time, thus not altering kill rates in any meaningful way.

If you can't be happy or grateful for someone trying to be nice, that's on you. The rest of us will enjoy encountering nice players every and now and then.

Pretty much everything you just stated is either factually wrong or completely contradicts your arguments. Numbers aren't low? Devs want kill rates to be something around 60% as it seems. So by their definition kill rates were too low. Killers cried until they got their buffs? Killers have cried for years and have even quit the game because survivors were getting stronger and stronger with new maps and their precious, now thankfully nerfed, E key. The devs did not make these changes just to please killer players or they would have acted years ago. Also, you just went on about how killers altered the numbers by showing mercy, therefore convincing devs to make these changes. How do those two arguments fit together? Next up: The game should be stressful?! The game was literally designed as a party game. We've come a long way since then but the fact remains. A game that is stressful above all else has no chance of surviving for long. Tell me, who is scared of the killer in DBD? As a survvivor you do gens and try to loop the killer sometimes even running up to them so you have some interaction. Of course you might experience a thrill, but this has nothing to do with stress. Stress means you're feeling exhausted afterwards, not wanting to play again. The number one reason anyone ever plays a game is because they want to have fun in any way. Killers were stressed and therefore left the game. The ones that remained were the sweaties, including the campers and tunnelers, and the more chill sort of players. Even the fact that MMR was added to the game doesn't change the fact that you should be paired with players that are more or less as good as you so that there won't be someone that can loop the killer for 5 gens straight or end every single chase in under 10 seconds. More balanced matches = More balanced outcomes = Less frustration = More fun = More players = More money. At least in theory.

So where's your source for those figures?

BHVR themselves said kill rates were lower than they'd like, which is 50%.

I personally think that both survs and killers should play the way they want, I've never played any game until today besides DBD from which people create rules on how to play the game, the game has broken things, many, but the devs who have to fix this

Nah. I play the way I do because it's fun for me, and i enjoy everyone getting something out of it. If the devs can't take that into account with their stats, that's on them. I punish afkers, survivors who ######### on thier teammates, and survivors who decide to push it too far with me, but otherwise we are gonna do some chases, I'm gonna get my 8 hook states, i might mess with the survivors heads a little, and everyone is going out the gates unless they fall into the previously mentioned catagories (or I forget which hook everyone is on). I care not a bit about BHVR's stats.

I concider it a win if i get 20k+ bp and all survivors atleast have 12.5k

Sure will. If they want more accurate numbers use a better system. Thier metric is not my problem.

Nope I like the chases. Could care less about the stats. I like to play until I get everyone 2 hooked and then most of the time I'll let everyone go or farm with them. Unless I'm just in a mood to play differently.

If a survivor runs to a gen or points at a hook I'll let them work on it or hook them so they can leave. I'm not going to force anyone to stay in a match to farm either.

On the flip side about the same amount of times I let survivors go I will also let killers hook or sacrifice me in the end game. Especially if they had a bad game and maybe didn't get many bloodpoints.

This post might be the best evidence I've seen that people will complain about anything. One more item to add to the killer rule book, I guess. How many pages are we up to now?

Usually when one dc at beginning I let others go but hook them 2 times but sometimes they suicide then thought. Sometimes I just kill two of them but fair way and let last get a hatch. Usually I do bit farming too if I have not maxed out bp yet.

I don't think tunneling is legitimate stragedy it's dirty one and wrong way to play. But sometimes it's neccesary evil to win. Facecamping is dirty and lazy play too. But in some situations camping and tunneling are not dirty for example if survivor is farmed off the hook in front of you is not dirty go after him but nice play would be go after the unhooker. Going back to hook if you don't find other survivors is fine too and if they don't save hooked enough soon it's smart to camp second hook state even it's bit dirty still.

We don't get killer sided patches much round here. It's apparently created quite a stir.

Bruh, if I feel like letting the babies go, I will. I'm not an #########.

What about when survivors open the exits, but then try to get a final hook rescue, play overly altruistic and turn a 1K into a 4K?

Killers should refuse to kill survivors once the exit gates are open so they don't skew the figures.