THANA Talk

It's doubly more effective now due to it's buff and the increase to base gen times.

Frankly it didn't need the buff, even without it it would still be a meta perk.

It could even be nerfed to 4% per stack and it would be on par with Gift of Pain.

I think it's surprising the surge is so important considering the Thana buff was so small. Legions and Plagues use it a lot right now, but it was already very strong on them before. (Legion synergizes well with Nurses perks in general, in my opinion)

I think it's salt in the would because gens are already being done slower now and Thana is usually coupled with other slowdown perks, but to be fair, Thana in itself is fine. If it hadn't been buffed, we would have been 2% less frustrated (I'm saying 'we' as I've mostly played survivor since the update).

If there was to be a nerf, I'd rather it be on how many slowdown a killer can bring, and not on Thana particularly (or on any other slowdown perk particularly).

It's the same experience it has always been, easily countered by stealth and healing. Survivors have to be playing poorly or extremely outclassed for this perk to seem out of hand.

I use We'll Make It and Empathic Connections, Thanataphobia is an adaptation issue, not a gameplay issue.

I don't think it's a great perk on most killers. You have to actually get survivors injured before it does anything, and its impact is really only hefty if at least 3 survivors are injured. At 1 survivor injured, an entire gen takes 5 seconds longer, at 2 injured, 11 seconds. Getting 3+ survivors injured is not something most killers are reliably able to do, let alone do so quickly and keep it that way for prolonged periods of time, and you have to consider that any gen progress survivors put in without being under the effect of Thana (or multiple stacks of it) further reduces its impact (e. g. if survivors repaired 50% of a gen before you were able to injure any or multiple survivors, now the repair speed reduction will obviously only affect 50% of that gen, meaning it will only be half the time slowdown).

Sure, if you have a Nurse or Blight or whatever and you see the red gen progress bar from Thana and get demolished, it's easy to think Thana had a notable impact on that round, but I guarantee that in the majority of cases, you could take Thana out of the equation and it wouldn't have changed much. It's often mostly a nocebo effect, and a "win more" option for these killers that would have most likely won in those instances either way. And personally, I think Pain Resonance is still a much more impactful "win more" option for killers like this than Thana.

Of course, there are some killers it really is very good on. Legion and Plague first and foremost, who can quickly and reliably get most if not all survivors injured, and keep it that way. It can also be decent in hit-and-run strategies alongside Sloppy Butcher and whatnot, on killers like Sadako or Wraith. It can be stacked with stuff like Gift Of Pain, Dying Light and Pentimento, but stacking stuff doesn't actually increase its impact, Thana still only does the % it does, it mostly serves a "win more" role again; Gift Of Paint and/or Penti are plenty slowdown on their own.

So with that said, if I as a survivor see Thana on a killer that isn't Legion/Plague, I feel pretty good about them having spent a perk slot on that. Naturally that doesn't necessarily mean I will survive, with the average level of random survivors, a competent killer can win even without perks altogether.

Killers were stacking slowdowns with thana before the patch.

Who would run thana by itself ever? lol

I don't know about you but I never ran thana on Plague or Legion without atleast 1 other gen perk EG: Ruin/Pent/PainRes.

Thana by itself is useless

Yeah but those slowdowns are fair now, with the gen increase, I'd say thana could've used a small nerf as well

Thana actually needs buffs if people expect every killer to be limited to one gen perk per build

Thanat literally is broken... Almost every match that starts with Thanat ends in a 4k.. let's be honest the amount of low MMR killers has skyrocketed... Even So High MMR survivors have lost matches against Low MMR killers who flat out suck... simply because perks like Thanat literally carry... They've made it soo much easier to get 4k's its insane.. I personally have yet to NOT get a 4k with a Thanat/Save the Best combo.... It's 100% a massively broken update..

The actual buff is not a real problem, its just a 2% more in the rare cases when you get everyone injured. Its just super counterintuitive that they buffed this perk, ever so slightly, in the same patch were they introduced a +10 base gen time, this just feels so random and not well thought through and 100% unneeded.