Can someone please explain to me how I'm supposed to counter plague with dying light and thana?

I'm just grateful most killers aren't abusing Plague right now.

I used to run thana and DL on plague ages ago, it was nasty enough back then so it's kinda funny it's only being discovered now.

Idk I never really ran thana for the slowdown aspect itself, more to make survivors cleanse. Same with blood echo. DL was just to make the thana feel more urgent to get rid of, also it doesn't really buff the obsession so much. But I only ran Thana/DL before she had her default fountain and if you didn't use perks to force cleansing you might not get corrupted at all.

Anyway I still don't get why they buffed thana. All the other buffed slowdowns were previously perks no one ran, I saw plenty of thana pre-patch.

What about Clairvoyance then? It's highly valuable in soloQ, bc it shows you the hatch aura within 64 meter range. So when the match goes downhill, you can just hide and wait for the last to die, and then beat the killer to the hatch. It works quite often. And for the instances were it doesn't, you could equip Sole Survivor / Wake up to open a gate faster. Since you know were the hatch is due to Clair, you can also hide at a gate. If you cannot see the hatch at the gate, it is too far away for the killer to reach you after the hatch was closed (when using Sole Survivor / wakeup and not playing against fast killers like blight / billy / nurse).

Making sure survivors give you a flamethrower for 60 seconds is not exactly "nothing"

Thana on Plague is not at all controversial, it's a win-win

Survivors don't cleanse? Ok, enjoy long repair times

Survivors cleanse? Oh, I guess I'm a Huntress that shoots 15 hatchets in a row for 60 seconds

It all depends on your teammates. If the team focuses on gens and tries to play efficiently, they can beat that combo. The problem I often see in solo que is teammates don't play anything close to efficiently.

I see them hiding in lockers, hiding near the killer, but the killer is chasing someone else, or they are searching basement chest, even though they brought a purple flashlight.

Yeah, the problem is player choices at that point.

do you know which other killer shoots 15 hatchers in a row? trickster. many killers in the game have anti-loop and their anti-loop is base-kit. Corrupt puke plague is no different really. your suppose to use her slow movement when charging, slow projectile speed and slow wind-up to prevent her from getting a clear shot.

plague is easiest killer to utilize line of sight against, even easier than trickster. the flamethrower nature of her ability prevents you from using zig-zag strategies that is commonly used against huntress, deathslinger and to lesser extend trickster. Just like all other ranged killers, high-walls loop are great counter to plague with corrupt puke. Low-walls loops are completely useless against corrupt puke plague. Luckily she does not always have corrupt puke plague so you can use low-walls when she does not have it and high-walls when she does have it unlike other 3.

not cleansing at all is dumb strategy because plague can infect survivors and hook-trade when everyone is injured. Cleansing recklessly in convenient locations just makes your chase harder because your making her corrupt puke active on every chase with no time investment.

plague is balancing act between cleansing at correct times in long distances where getting corrupt puke for plague is impractical as time investment while over-cleansing at times to consume all fountains. plague has 6 fountains, so if 2-3 fountains are active, you can over-cleanse on purpose and consume all 6 fountains. it does give her power automatically, but a single usage of her ability is not instant game over. she has 1 fountain at base-kit corrupted and that 1 fountain is not instant win.

Hypothetically Dying Light is more like a late game perk than a win more perk. Once you have four to six hooks it’s giving some ok value, and it’s quite possible to have not killed anyone by the time you have six to eight hooks. So if you are playing a slow build up strategy where you try and pressure and hook and destroy pallets in the early game in order to have a more oppressive mid and late game then something like Dying Light can pay off if you can play it right.

The problem with Dying Light in my mind is it actually starts you off at a disadvantage in the early game compared to having no perk at all because the Obsession gets speed boosts. So your early game is even tougher to keep the pressure up than usual. I think if they got rid of that boost on the Obsession though it would definitely help the perk out without making it be overpowered.

This is very true. Dying Light is in the same vein as Devour Hope. It rewards good actions on the Killer's part, namely hooking.

I am a Plague main and can tell you that Plague's weakness is either in chase (no corrupt purge) or pressuring gens. Thano helps balance her weaknesses. I run Prayer Tablet with Corrupt and Thano. If I down somebody too quickly Corrupt is gone. If I take too long then i wasted my early game.

I'm also a Plague who doesn't go to pools too often. Once a survivor is infected it forces them to either eat the Thano penalty or go across the map to the only available pool. Once all of the pools are corrupted I get auto Corrupt as well, usually mid-chase.

But again if the survivors pressure hard early game and split the gens then it's difficult for me to stop them. If 4 survivors are working together on 2 separate gens far away I can't do much. If they try to lead me away then I am forced to not babysit the gen, not pressure the gen or go for a down. Certain maps especially hurt this.

Cleanse and focus on gens.

Trickster and Plague with Corrupt Purge are two completely different things, the only thing they have in common is that they are ranged killers, I don't even know why you'd bring this up.

Yes, the perfect play against a Thana Plague is to consume her fountains as fast as possible to force her Corrupt Purge, but good luck with coordinating that.

This doesn't change the fact that using Thana on Plague is a win-win, survivors either stay injured (eating the penalty) or cleanse, giving you the stronger part of your power

I've been seeing this too, and while it's annoying, I can't say I blame them because if I play survivor every other game is a thana legion or plague. Like I might not be running slowdown but they just have to come prepared like I am because every other game they play has it.

Probably it's the compination thought if you have really bad teammates killer should win regardless has he slowdown perks or not. After the patch I have losen many games with my team at 1 gen and killee has had all the slow down perks so they do decide if you lose or not lot of times. But everyone uses them so you just have to beat all the slowdowns as well. One stragedy how I won killer who had slow down perks was when I was playing with friend who was on death hook was to tell him to dc as soon as killer downs and lifts him. Cause otherwise killer would get him to pr hook and get pop and last gen was soon to be finished. 3 of us got out in that match.

That's basically cheating.

1 Word....you ready?

Cleanse....

Cleanse. Never understood and always hated the "don't cleanse against plague!" sentiment. If you don't cleanse you're essentially playing against a reduced lunge perma T3 Meyers. If you do cleanse, and be smart about it (hit fountains in corners and areas with finished gens first), you are playing against a Huntress with normal movement speed for a short time who can also be stunned out of her power.

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