Fog Whisperers can DC without Penalty!
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This is not correct. There are cheater programs that let you pick who you're going up against (it's something like preventing them from getting into a match with any lobby but yours), and even lists of major streamer IDs annotated with how those players react to cheaters and whether they're 'fun' targets to grief or if they'll just DC with minimal raging.
Everyone gets cheaters, but major content creators tend to get more of them for the sake of notoriety.
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Video of it
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The Tofu clip was only from about 2 or 3 days ago. I can't remember, but it was very recent. It is possible this whitelist did not exist 2 weeks ago. That being said, True's opinions on the game are mostly objective. I just wouldn't trust him with his weird cryptocurrency obsession. He does have a pretty decent track record for DbD in particular. I know survivor mains hate him, but facts are facts. They wouldn't hate him if he was always wrong. Lol.
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This is false. I won't go into details because that would be violating the forum rules so you'll have to take my word for it, but there are hacks that allow you to see the killer (meaning you could dodge until you get who you're aiming for), to modify your mmr, meaning you could get a fresh EGS account, modifiy it to be high mmr, and be likely to be put into the streamer's lobby, and even to force specific players into a lobby. And that's not even going to plain old streamsnipping.
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Stop playing. That's my best advice.
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If you look it says they can DC against cheaters if they have proof so more than likely when they DC they are probably contacted by a staff member that asks for the proof
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I understand a dc because of cheaters, but this sounds like a tactic to minimize the amount of exposure the cheating problem gets while forcing normal players to endure.
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They earned that right. Fog whisperers don’t ragequit and they get targeted like everyone else. BHVR can’t tell if the rest of us are just as noble as the fog whisperers. There’s just a few of them and they’re on record as being good sports. What can you do? 🤷
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They're not gonna make you one bro
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I don't rage quit either, my 6.5K hours account probably has less than 100 DC's on it (including crashes, etc), I had 5 hackers B2B 2 weeks ago and frequently get them.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1543277227?t=0h30m26s If you click this link you'll literally hear my say "It's probably that hacker Dwight lets be honest" because I've bee bumping into them so often... and guess what, it was. (30m 26s if the timestamp doesn't work).
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This is why I don't like fog whisperers
oh wait I'm gonna get jailed for bad mouthing their yes men
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I think that they have to go for a compromise and balance act between having a short-term solution for the Cheaters and not giving too much freedom. And so they decided that only Fog Whisperers are allowed to DC against Hackers. They can also take actions if those Fog Whisperers decide to abuse that and DC for different things (First Downs, too many Gens done, Ragequits in general). This would not be possible with Streamers.
That being said, if they would allow Streamers in general to DC, where to stop? A specific viewcount? Would also be unfair. Being a Streamer in general? I mean, I have a Twitch-Channel, but never Streamed. Would I be a Streamer? Or do I need to stream my gameplay to 0 viewers to be allowed to DC?
I guess the goal was to find A solution and not the best solution.
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SpooksnJukes too.
Can vouch on Coconut, he got held hostage on PC, went on his switch and got held hostage there. Finally went to Roblox DbD
SpooksnJukes got held hostage the other day on PS4 and swapped over to PC
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I mean, while I'm not a super avid watcher of Tru3, he was pretty critical of the state of the game while he was a Fog Whisperer. I watch Otz pretty frequently and he's pretty critical too. I'm not claiming to know the state of all Fog Whisperers, but I doubt they're all just "yes-men."
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otz and tru3 were the only ones I liked tbh
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So what exactly is the problem with Fogwhisperer being treated differently? Its their own right to do what they want with streamers associated with them. Its more shady that true tries do get some kind of attention on behalf of Fogwhisperer. He must still be pretty mad about his loss.
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I'm not asking for penalty free DCs I think allowing specific people to DC is ridiculous though, my point is anyone can face these hackers and the only reason they're letting their big dog Whisperers do it is so 3k+ people aren't watching someone have their night ruined and bashing on the game.
One of the hackers I reported told me in my stream chat they've had over 50+ band so far and still have thousands of accounts left.
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You're posting a vid from 13 days ago. I think I know who's the one making a fool of himself now.
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I think this is new
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Honestly it's understandable because they can prove that DC wasn't done in malicious intentions.
Like they are all streamers, right.
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Wow BHVR actually gave a damn about Fog Wisperers
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Classic cap man trying to start controversy for no reason
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I'm not even surprised lmao
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Just killswitch the DC penalty. It's going to be a wild west sort of a situation for a while, but maybe people will start realizing that actions have consequences and we can have the playerbase be slightly less ######### towards one another, since we all depend on the others.
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Not true, was in a game with a fog whisperer around 2 months ago, he had a MoM+Breakout+Sabo build to make hooks much harder, we got a Starstruck Nurse, the very moment she downed me, lifted and saw the Exposed status he quit the game, even said on stream "nah my build doesnt work against that, not playing that" he still ate the 5 minute penalty tho.
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The problem is not that fog whisperers can DC without penalty against hackers. The problem is that normal players can't do that.
However there is hardly a way for the game to know that the game was hacked, or it would do something against that in the first place.
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They're the streamers BHVR has chosen to represent them so it makes sense the DC penalty could be turned off for them. There's only like 65 of them, it's such a small group that BHVR can easily monitor them to make sure they don't abuse the DC penalty and if they do BHVR can kick them from the Fog Whisperer program. Honestly I'm more surprised this only just happened and wasn't a thing all along for Fog Whisperers to prevent them from getting penalties with Steam updates or game crashes.
They could turn off the DC penalty for everyone while they sort out the hacker issue but then people would abuse it and they'd need to turn it back on after the forums/socials get filled with people complaining more about DCs than hackers.
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i genuinely don't see a problem with this whatsoever. Fog Whisperers get special treatment because they are special. they are meant to positively represent the game and cannot do that if they cannot play the game. like from a business standpoint its pretty cut and dry. i think people are channeling frustration at completely the wrong thing and should be focused on making anti-cheat do anything than hating on streamers
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Uhm no, it's not as if DC-ing is always due to faulty internet. You do realise that sometimes it's because of the servers or in-game errors, right? It can also happen when someone gets DDOS-d for example, which has nothing to do with the player, but anyway, that's a whole different point.
My point was that it would be nice if there was a system that could differentiate between all those separate things and react accordingly 🤷♀️
Someone put up a video of the streamer, and it didn't seem like he had to wait or provide any proof. Though maybe it was done prior to that part of the recording IDK. Tho I highly doubt BHVR has so many employees at the ready to remove the timer every time they get messaged by FW's when they DC against a cheater.
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That's literally what I'm saying! That it would be nice IF it could.
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This smacks of trying to sweep negative publicity under the carpet by "minimising" the hacking problem rather than actually doing something pro-active about it. As long as a Fog Whisperer is not seen to be sitting there being held hostage, rather than take a DC timeout, all is good with the world? The problem being, (and I'm nhot going to name names), but it is pretty obvious without needing a degree in rocket science, that if these hackers can't target Fog Whisperers, they are going to re-double their efforts on bigger streamers, not currently in the Fog Whisperer program, some of whom for the past week have been taken hostage several times per night..... BHVR are actually choosing who the hackers will now concentrate on, whether they realise it or not. It's going to result in negative publicity, one way or the other. Fixing the hacking problem and fixing it quickly is what is needed, not band aids that only apply to the chosen few "ambassadors".
PS. Isn't it ironic, that to positively represent the game, it needs to be falsely represented, by the very people chosaen to represent it, by not showing how out of control the hacking problem is? ;)
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People watch fog whisperers. I see no issue here.
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Oh that's exactly what they're doing, I'm not pretending otherwise. I'm just saying there is absolutely zero negative to letting certain people DC with no penalty
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All streamers are not FW, you know that right? Ofcourse you do. Now cheaters are targeting them and forcing them to dc. They are not special enough? They have a lot viewers too but yet, they have not that special treatment. Some of these streamers are bigger than most of Fog Whisperers btw.
I don't think it is fair. If there is hacker issue, solution should help to all community. Not only for a small group. Community is keeping this game alive, not Fog Whisperers.
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You don't see an issue with BHVR deliberately directing the hackers to target streamers who are not Fog Whisperers, by their decison that only Fog Whisperers cannot be held hostage - other streamers, big and small still have to choose between being held hostage and DC penalties? You realise there are streamers not in the Fog Whisperer programme, who have audiences larger than Fog Whisperers?
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The thing is almost no one has this benefit. Tofu is the only person I know that doesn't currently have a DC penalty. This is a streamer-wide thing. Even Otz doesn't have this benefit as of right now.
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I shared Tru3's claims. OhTofu's video is kinda proves it. But i don't know about other FW streamers honestly because this no dc penalty thing is new. I guess we won't know the truth until someone from BHVR explains it.
But i am still on that, solution should affect all community. Helping a small group will not solve the real problem.
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Your contribution to intelligent discourse is nothing. You could be useful, like Laluzi below, yet you choose to be worthless. Do better.
Wow! That is insane. The fact that this seems to be pretty common knowledge is also nuts.
Why the hell hasn't BHVR figured out how to stop this instead of spending the time to single out Fog Whisperers so they can DC with no penalty? It has to have been going on for a while in order for what Lazuli described to be a thing. DbD is so much more broken than I ever thought possible of an online game.
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End of thread. This is the true answer. Fog Whisperers are more likely to be targeted by snipers. BHVR most likely-hasnt finished their anti-cheat system yet so this is a great temporary fix for DbD celebs
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You realize you're jumping to conclusions?
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They need a much better reporting system. Problem.is people abuse it and so it's completely useless. What they need is a specific option for cheating and only cheating. If you abuse the system you can no longer report cheaters for a month. A second time prevents you from reporting for 3 months, and everytime thereafter.
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This is a temporary solution. No duh there needs to be a better reporting system.
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The difference is, fog whisperers won't DC from any normal game, many other players don't. I don't have a problem with this tbh
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Last I knew SpookyLoopz was a Fog Whisperer.
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Fog Whisperers are literally VIPs. Of course they get special treatment.
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Dbd be like
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I feel like we are kinda ignoring the main issue. That cheaters are specifically targeting content creators. They are way more likely to get hackers than you and i so yeah they should be able to dc without penalty.
Limiting it to fog whisperers though, is dumb
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So instead of being mad at cheaters holding people hostage, we are mad at Fog whisperers? What the #########
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I am going to close this here, as it has devolved into heavy negativity and attacks towards content creators, Fog Whisperers, and other members of the Forum alike. Please remember to keep discussions civil and respectful as per the rules, and a reminder we have naming & shaming rules on this forum as well.
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