Nurse need rework/nerf ?
I'm a survivor player since 2019 (rarely play as a killer and never using nurse). After the mid-chapter update, i tried to increase the rank killer and the first killer i used was nurse, and yes i've never use her before. Im trying to learn to use her, using an add-on where to see where we blink (plaid flannel) and i got a very surprising result, after playing her for 3-4 days, i got rank 1 iris. (only use nurse, without using other killers)
Here i want to give an opinion that i really agree with doing nerf/rework for nurse. As you can see, i've only played her for 4 days and made it to rank 1 iris easily just using her. New nurse player like me can adapt easily, can be judged she is a very overpower killer.
It's very easy for me because nurse ignores the game mechanics of DBD, such as pallets and others. With some perks that can help the killer to reveal a survivor aura, it makes nurse very overpowered.
and below is a photo where i got rank 1 iris using nurse, i still use the Plaid flannel add on because i'm still learning.
note: i've never reached rank 1 iris before, it's the first time.
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Personally I’d like to see two quality of life changes to make Nurse more accessible to new players
- Make Plaid Flannel basekit but adjust its indicator to not be as large and obtrusive (it looks ridiculously big and bright at close range on some systems). It would help make her a little more playable right out of the box while not being a big buff to veteran Nurses who would mostly not need the indicator in the first place.
- Let Nurse keep her head up so she can see what’s going on during Blink stun. Staring at the ground half the match is one of the most annoying mechanics in the game, it’s the reason Nurse is the only killer I just refuse to play. I would happily even take her Blink stun lasting a tiny bit longer if I could keep her head up during it.
I’m not entirely convinced Nurse needs a nerf, but if they ever did want to nerf her it could be done without much programming by just adjusting her Blink refresh time or range. That change requires the least amount of programming since it’s just changing a parameter in a table. Like I said, though, I’m more interested in making her more new player approachable.
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This is just the last game in the OP's run to Iri I. We have no idea what the survivors used for perks in all those games.
You keep going on and on in other threads how Nurse is hard, when clearly she isn't. I honestly think the kill rates have to be skewed by many players who play Nurse for less than 10 games get poor results and never play her again or players who play her just to get a ritual/challenge done. I never hear about a Nurses with any experience getting poor results match after match like a Clown.
Those changes would make her absurdly easy.
You underestimate the power of Plaid Flannel. If it was basekit then Nurses would much more rarely make comical mistakes like blinking into the basement or other vertical mistakes.
As for that head up idea, that's a good idea for an addon, probably green or purple. Being able to maintain line of sight on the survivor while in fatigue might even be strong enough to warrant a downside to the addon.
I want the Nurse to get these changes:
- Make any attack where she uses 2 or more blinks count as a special attack.
- Make her maximum teleport speed constant regardless of addons.
- Make it so if she blinks through a falling pallet she gets pallet stunned.
- Make it so that if she gets hit with a pallet during her fatigue the her fatigue gets interrupted and she gets pallet stunned.
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No, on both counts. She is perfect the way she is.
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Do you include flannel in there (since there is a 's' to add-on)?
As much as I despise the stack of flannel in my stash, I feel it's kind of necessary for the first match. Otherwise understanding blinks would be too difficult. (And it's also useful to check map bugs)
Or would you say to learn her without even that?
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There should be maybe 10 instances total, and it should never appear anymore in the blood web.
Or maybe only in the level 1 bloodweb, that should fix this piece of crap.
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She needs a completely rework. Her power was made for 2016 standarts.
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I mean, thats the only way to suppres players complain. If you nerf her power directly (like increased fatigue, reduced blink range), "Playing Nurse is unfun now" topics will rise. If you just nerf her addons, she still will be strongest killer and players will still complain about her. Reworking her power is the only way to suppres complains about her.
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You must have missed an episode.
Her power is nothing like the power she had in 2016.
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Probably not needed, game is not dying despite nurse existing for eternity.
Realistically speaking, we have no reason to suppress complaint.
Just ignore it like it's been done to many things.
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If Nurse was introduced today, do you think she will same as now?
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Just like you, I don't know, I'm not in the head of the developers.
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So you never played nurse, but had her prestiged. Interesting story.
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Make her a normal speed killer and then let her use Tokens for blinks. Like let her start with 4 tokens and every blink consumes 1 token. She then gains a token for every finished gen and one for every survivor hit. And if she hits a survivor directly after a blink, no token is consumed. Or something similar. At least her power should not be accessible all the time.
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Wow...
Now that we´re at it. Why not deactivat the screen while player her?
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That's just the last photo I got iris 1. Previously I often fought a lot swf and people who could counter nurse well, in the end I still managed to kill them easily.
Judging from the perks I use, i often get the rush gen. I only use thanotobia to slow down generator and i still can manage to comeback very easily when gen is 2 or 1. my lowest kill when using nurse is 2. i often get 4, but sometimes 3 because they get hatch. The plaid flannel add on really helped me as a new nurse player to get this far, without this add on maybe I can't learn to avoid miss blink.
Today I try not to use plaid flannel, I can still kill survivors easily. I don't know, but I think I've adapted to nurse blink.
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Yeah, from bronze to iris i only play her. I spent a lot of bloodpoints on her, to get add ons because i have few. That's why she became prestige 4
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And you did this all after the mid chapter patch?
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Yes.
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I swear if they do anything to nurse which I don't even play I will never play this game again. I refuse to live in a reality where a kid with 4 friends booted up the game in a survive with friends just so the killer with iri 1 can post this screenshot to the forums to pretend that nurse is op.
How much are they paying you?
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And thats why survivors shouldnt decide killer nerfs.
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Because that's the truth from my experience, i really enjoy playing nurse now. But when i play survivor and fight against very good nurse, i don't really enjoy the match at all. And here I just give my experience and opinion. that's it.
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Nurse can decide to just win. Her opposite, 4-man SWF, can decide to just win.
Both are broken. Only, no one denies SWF is broken. Biased nurse mains deny nurse is broken. It is sad they can't just admit it. Very sad.
And no, just because one exists, doesn't mean the other should exist, too. That is absolutely terrible logic.
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No, she does not need a nerf. End of the discussion.
In case anyone wonders: no, i'm not a nurse main. I play both sides equally, and as killer only rarely nurse. She is fun to play against and fun to play as. The end.
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You know the 2nd one is a crazy huge buff right?
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* Her add-ons (Especially the range addons)
* She should not be able to blink until "fully" recharged again after a failed blink, along with slightly increasing the duration to recharge. This should punish her more for failed blinks.
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If Plaid Flannel were as powerful as you claim it would be a popular add-on with veteran Nurse players. But it’s almost never used, so no I don’t think I’m underestimating it.
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- Note that I said Plaid Flannel base kit should also only be if they make the indicator less distracting. I agree it shouldn’t be base kit unless they change its visual.
- Being a “crutch” isn’t a reason to not have it be base kit.
- Also note that I said in my post I’d be happy if Nurse kept her head up but had, say, a longer refresh time to compensate. And on a side note someone else commented above it could be an add-on, which I’d be ok with too.
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That’s why I said I’d be happy if they did it and compensated by, say, increasing the refresh time.
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