People need to stop giving up and learn to get better

"Fine, but do you know what going down instantly does mean, if that killer chooses too camp you, not only are you almost guaranteed to die, but your teammates are unlikely to finish their generators before that survivor on hook dies. That killer is extremely likely to win, and everybody knows it. Now if a killer chooses to play properly, then yes a 10 second down is not a guaranteed win by any means. But as so many killers say so, they don't have to. They can paly however they want cause its not against the rules."

The hook timer is shorter than the 5 minute penalty you'll get for DCing.

Just wait it out regardless, if the killer camps you, so what, the longer you hang on the more time your team have to do gens or potentially save you.

>When a killer says, I'm not enjoying myself, people rush to their defence and tell them how hard it is. But if a survivor who just want play for a bit before they got sleep and encounter a fully stacked killer and they just say "I give" everyone gets so outraged by it.

I can say with very high levels of confidence neither side tends to give a crap about the other side in the middle of the game. I've had games as killer where I've tried my best and just got absolutely nowhere, they thrashed me, and I just want the game to be over so I'll head to the basement and stare at the wall. Over 90% of the time they'll take their sweet time leaving and wait the entire 2 minutes of EGC, and at least half the time they'll come find me and try to bait me into playing more when it's blatantly obvious I just want the game over (and to note I've alt tabbed and am watching something in the other monitor at this point so I'm not willing to engage.) It's a rare situation where I see people leave quickly, even if I open the exit gate myself first before exiling, and I can count on one hand the number of times I got a "pity kill" to EGC.

On the flipside, there are matches as survivor where I'm solo and I keep getting insta saved and then my rescuer vanishes so I get tunneled, which to be clear isn't the killer's fault at that point, rather my altruism lemming teammate, and frankly I'm just done with the game. I can think of exactly one time where the killer realized how done I was and decided to give me an extra chance. Billy on Torment Creek back in 2019. I still remember that game fondly. He still killed me, but he opted to not take the easy kill and let me get some points before an organic chase happened later.

Now, to be clear, I don't think the other side should be in charge of your fun, but I also think that saying the majority baby one side and not the other is absolutely untrue. Most players don't give a crap if the killer's having fun, or if the survivors are - they want to have fun and dammit they're going to. Helps to make your own fun and stop taking the game so seriously, it's helped my mentality with this stupid game by quite a bit, if I'm being honest. That being said, giving up immediately as _either side_ is a dick move to the other four players, and one bad chase for you doesn't define the whole game. You agreed to play when you queued up, being unhappy the first minute didn't go your way to the point of quitting's a bit much. But if the game's clearly over for you, then I think it's reasonable.

On a tangent this reminds me of the recent Veritasium video that talks about the sorts of things you need in order to become a true expert in a field. Time spent doing something is a factor obviously, but even if you spend thousands of hours that alone doesn’t make you an expert. For example, almost everybody has driven cars for thousands and thousands of hours but that doesn’t make them experts. Another factor is you have to be constantly pushing yourself to practicing things that are difficult for you to accomplish. So expert driving practice requires driving in bad conditions or high speed or offroad, etc.

Applying this to DbD then playing the game frequently alone won’t make you an expert, you need to be playing against opponents better than you and in games where you are at a disadvantageous setup or with survivor allies who are weaker than the killer you’re facing, etc. If you win every game because you’re mainly facing easy opponents you won’t improve much, most improvement comes from learning from your mistakes and losses.

So basically if you really want to be a top level expert DbD player you should be playing a lot AND playing a lot of “sweaty” matches where you felt like you had an uphill battle to win. If you’re just winning because the opponents are weaker than you then you aren’t improving much.

But that hasn´t changed since release. Low rank killers have had the same behavior for years.

Ah but you and a lot of people are forgetting one important thing.

PEOPLE ARE NOT BOTS

They are not AI who have to follow the laws of robotics and say "5 is bigger then 2. These are real people outside of a computer screen. We are just talking about straight disconnecting correct, well people will disconnect, and then walk away. Go do something else. Why would they, drag out their loss, in an incredibly frustrating way just so they can get in a match 3 minutes faster, when they can just disconnect and leave. Maybe they come ack in 5 minutes after a break, maybe not, either way its way better for people's mentality to disconnect and then walk away for 5 minutes. Do something else for a bit and choose to come back if they want to. But people are not going to drag out their deaths so their teammates might stand a chance of winning when, A they get nothing from this, and B if people feel the need to disconnect they likely want to take a break anyway. Not many people sit there with their mouse hovering over the start match button waiting for the time to go off. They leave, do things, some times they come back, some times they don't. And people take issue with that? Seriously if you take issue with somebody removing themselves from DBD. That's just.. not a good mindset.

I get it, people are human, they have emotions, they ragequit.

That doesn't mean ragequitting isn't a ######### thing to do. That doesn't mean you shouldn't feel ashamed to DC.

Learn to control your emotions better. Learn to take the game less seriously.

The real issue with this game is the players 90% of them think they are mvps and in reality they are scrubs. I'll admit there are toxic killers. That said survivors are the biggest issue. For example maybe if you play Leon and im in your match well you are just sol no saves for you...now people say play how you want but my actions cause the match to go off the rails. You don't know why I'm not saving you. You just know you might get one hooked. And that just one example. And yes it could be anything from a actions you make, to a character you picked or i don't like xyz shirt.

It should be a team game, but it isn't really. It's 4 people sharing a goal of escape. Right now the reward for escape is 5k bloodpoints, and the penalty for going down fast in a match is a match with less than 15k blood points....or roughly 5k less than a match where you can do gens, chases, and unhooks.

There is literally no incentive at all to stay in the match. Survivors have instant queues and a the next game has the chance of a profitable and fun match...why wouldn't the survivors dc or suicide?

To fix it, they should make victory a team condition. Doors get powered while you are in the match, all survivors present (dead or alive or dangling from a hook) get 10k blood points. If any survivor walks out the gate, another team bonus of 5k blood points. Keep the gen's, unhooks, and chase points as personal rewards. Ideally, half of the reward is from personal achievement and the other half is from the team.