My opinion: 9 out of 29 killers are boring to play against and they need some extra spice
Firstly, I'm gonna name them, It's Trickster, Clown, Artist, Nemesis, Deathslinger, Pyramid Head, Wesker, Legion and Plague.
And it is not necessarily about their abilities, even though some of do have some boring recycled abilities (*cough cough* Trickster *cough cough* Wesker), it's the way they look, the way they influence the map (Nemesis zombies are a joke) and the ambiance around them, there is usually none with those killers.
Bubba and Billy for example create those loud chainsaw noises around the map making the match more creepy and immersive while also having that one hit down potential, Oni has those loud grunts and intimidating model when he's enraged, his kit also making him a scary imminent danger, Huntress has her iconic lullaby, Dredge has his night time and can pop out of any locker etc.
Those 9 killers I mentioned as being boring have none of those qualities, except for maybe when the Clown blurs your vision, but even that is not strong enough to be relevant. They do not have any noticeable sound cues, they don't influence the way survivors see the map or the killers, it's a very very underwhelming, dull experience facing them.
Maybe it's a bit hard to explain but there's no passive threat with those guys, like something is about to happen. If they're not around you, you can basically stay calm, you're safe. Even if they chase someone, you won't hear much, there's no creepy aspect like Bubba revving that chainsaw, about to down one of your teammates or hearing a Nurse teleport around screaming, All the other 20 killers can keep you on your toes, either by being stealthy (Wraith/Myers/Ghostface/Pig) and making you look around more, or by setting traps (Trapper/Hag), by being able to one-shot you (Bubba/Billy/Oni), by being able to pop up in your proximity (Freddy/Sadako/Dredge/Blight/Nurse/Spirit/Demo) or even by simply having quirky abilities that can catch you off guard (Doctor/Pinhead/Twins/Huntress)
Now i am not necessarily saying they need a rework, but at least some audio cues or some influence on the match ambience would be nice.
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Bruh, Wesker is not even out yet but he's already boring. Big bruhs
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He looks like a normal human being with a crooked arm, his power is boring, he's what you get when Nurse has a baby with Legion, no influence on how the map looks and plays, no influence on how survivors approach the game, no special sound cues.
Yeah, he's boring, a normal looking guy with a venom arm and a dash that sometimes slows survivors with "toxicity" WOW
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These are subjective. I find artist fun to go against, I find trapper a snooze
We definitely have a few dislikes in common though
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Funny how they literally just gutted the hell out of Deathslinger to make him more fun to go up against, yet everyone still hates him.
I for one actually enjoyed facing him back when his power wasn't primarily for zoning purposes, but whatever floats your boat BHVR. We all know how much people looove playing against zoning Killers after all.
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The idea behind him is very good, when a Trapper plays good, and has good perks/addons you can feel the fear of stepping in a random trap creping out on you a bit. But he definitely needs some buffs atm
The Artist... I dunno man, I'm playing a horror game, being hit by what it looks like a World of Warcraft spell is more cringe than creepy.
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Fun/boring/etc is all subjective and irrelevant. What some find fun, others will find boring, and vice-versa. As long as there's no balance issues, there's no problem.
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There's also a general consensus on what is boring and what is fun. Usually what is fun, is more engaging, there's actual evidence that the killers I mentioned are less engaging than the others, you can't just brush off opinions like that and think you sound smart.
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Funny how they literally just gutted the hell out of Deathslinger to make him more fun to go up against, yet everyone still hates him.
I mean yeah. Just because Deathslinger was gutted doesn't mean he's fun to play against. There's more factors to having fun than just being weak yknow.
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Finally someone that gets it, when I mean fun, I don't necessarily talk about "oh I'm winning so that means I'm having fun". Fun means that events happen around the map, your senses are engaged, through audio cues, visual cues etc. There are a few killers that do this very well, but the ones I mentioned are bland AF
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Mad that you did add Freddy to the list. I still consider Freddy top tier in boredoom, in my opinion.
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Freddy could be 10 times more fun than what he is now, but the dream world and his teleportation adds a little bit of suspense to the game. I think his kit should revolve more around the dream world and make it more punishing for survivors that enter it
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Legion is really boring for sure. The most boring build is overcharge, thana, pentimento + plaything or scourge hook (gift of pain). All of that makes gameplay like mend-repair-regress-mend-repair-regress-mend and so on, untill 30 minutes in game.
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During these days, everything that isn't Nurse is fun for me.
Yes, even Blight.
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Trickster has a 40m audible radius, similarly to the huntress.
Every time the Clown throws a bottle it makes a mapwide noise.
When the artist shoots her crows you may need to look around to see if they're headed your way, or move a bit just to be safe.
Nemesis's zombies are hit or miss but they can (depending on the map) actually be quite impactful.
Deathslinger makes a mapwide noise every time he shoots. He is also capable of being stealthy and catching you off guard with his gun. If you're just mindlessly sitting around doing a gen, the chance of him shooting you when you don't expect it is increased.
Pyramid head can catch you off guard with his ranged attack if he's undetectable (tinkerer for example) and there's a noise every time he uses the attack.
Legion may not have sound cues, but as soon as I see the Legion hit someone, if I don't have a way of knowing where it happened I Instantly start looking around to see if the legion is headed towards me. No need for an audio cue when a visual cue on the hud is enough.
Plague has her audible noise while she's using corrupt purge, and every time a survivor cleanses there's an audio cue. And personally as soon as I hear that someone has cleansed, my perspective on the match changes.
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IMO, out of 29 killers:
- 8 are fun to play against.
- I don't mind 2 of them.
- 3 are hella boring
- 8 are unenjoyable
- 7 are straight-up frustrating
- And then we have Wesker who I don't have an opinion on
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Artist? Idk, you hear her creepy ass birds, similarly to the chainsaws you spoke of. She's difficult to chase against and has a very unique art style and presence overall. From an artist main, I don't think she's boring to play against, she's actually quite difficult to counter.
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Trickster is not able to quickly remove one health state out of you if you're not paying attention like Huntress does, there's no sense of danger lingering in the air with that killer, you don't hear his terror radius, you're safe. Plus he looks like a k-pop fan at a Halloween party.
Same with Clown, unless he has that iri addon that downs you if he hits you with the bottle, there's no sense of imminent danger with him.
Artist yea, there's a lingering danger with those crows she's shooting, but there's literally nothing creepy about it, it's like getting hit by a World of Warcraft spell, her kit does not fit a game like DBD imo, she's still better than the Trickster as she does look and sound a bit creepy, but he kit is meh AF.
Nemesis can't keep survivors on their toes either, the zombies should accomplish that, but no one really gives a damn about those zombies when they see them, unless they are very very close to them, they are not scary, they are not doing much.
Deathslinger, eh i guess he's ok-ish, but he doesn't really have any horror qualities to him, he doesn't have any creepy sounds or visual cues at all. His model is nice, the idea behind a zombie cowboy type guy is also cool, but as I said, there's no horror aspect when a Deathslinger is on the map.
Pyramid Head is just another killer that if you don't hear his terror radius you're safe. That's boring, it boils the game down to: hear terror radius and run or hide, or do gens while no terror radius is heard. His kit is pretty nice overall, but as I'm trying to continuously point out, he lacks the ability to give survivors the chills through audio/visual effects.
Legion literally has nothing creepy about him as a killer, whenever I face him I feel disappointed, you just know that he's gonna injure you and then leave you alone and run after somebody else, that's such a weird ass kit, he's also gonna catch up to you most of the time no matter what when he's speeding up anyways. And after that he becomes a bland m1 killer. Probably the lowest on the horror scale alongside Trickster and Plague, also closely tied to Artist and Deathslinger.
Plague is also one of those heroes that do not belong in the game at all. Nothing screams Dead By Daylight when you look at her model and kit. She looks just like a random runway model from those high level fashion shows and her power is puke. Yes i get the idea, it's some sort of toxic ass stuff that makes you sick, but it is not creepy. There's stuff that can kill you that are creepy, like a tall insane psycho with a chainsaw, and there's stuff that can kill you that are not creepy like choking on a bean. This game is supposed to create a weird eerie sensation to the survivors when facing a killer, being puked on by a fashion model is just cringe.
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i wouldnt hate him if he couldnt quickscope me. its like pyramid head, they "got rid" of his insta cancel so killer mains stopped playing him. and then they "got rid" of deathslingers quickscope so people stopped playing him, but as anyone sees against good slingers and ph that they still can, quickscope still exists and ph cant insta cancel but he can cancel fast enough to hit you through the window anyways. I wont stop hating slinger til i can to a window and he pulls up and misses because he decided to wait too long, when that happens ill be fine, but as it stands vaulting a window and then while youre in animation he pulls up his gun and shoots even tho you were mid vault by the time he did it,thats pretty dumb
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