What changes are you hoping for from the PTB?

Mostly hoping for improvements to Wesker’s collision, buffs to Better than New and Low Profile, and Reassurance probably should stop working in endgame.

Huge buffs to all of Ada Wong's perks + Better Than New.

These perks are extremely undertuned, situational, and obsolete.

I am sick of survivor perks always being garbage.

Reassuarance is good yes, but it's just another band aid fix to an issue that makes you unimaginably angry when playing survivor.

Hyperfocus is not particularly useful, it's just fun. That's okay. But Low Profile and Reactive Healing are very weak because there effects are so weak and unnoticeable.

I'd rather bring Prove Thyself over Hyperfocus and Kindred instead of Wiretap.

They are pretty weak when you look at them relatively.

Wiretap in practicality is also not that good. It has the Deliverance Curse where killer kicks gen more often if you have it, and 14 meters is not that big of a range and it doesn't work with Open-Handed.

Pulsar you should watch some of Ohmwrecker's last few yt videos when he played as Rebecca he showed how good that perk is

Reassurance trolling wont happen often since a 3v1 is a major disadvantage and leads to losses.

Like I said it's like his last two videos I believe of the test server when he plays as Rebecca it's fairly strong and yea I agree with you that casual players may not be able to make the skill checks but Steakout makes it alot easier. I can make greats alot as long as Lullaby or Doc isn't in play

DS back to 5 seconds.

Besides that just some bug fixes and I'm fine with the update

this should be a bug then. if kindred works with open-handed, then this should work as well. has the same conditions

Prove requires a second survivor and requires 53 seconds, Hyperfocus can make 4 survivors finish 4 gens in 45 seconds. That's a bit of a difference. And Hex Ruin is loooong ago, that was a different playerbase. Might be that there are more survivors percentually that don't regularly hit great skillchecks, but in total numbers there are also more survivors that can compared to back then. What you do would be like comparing the current game to old double window shack with no entity blockers and no mid vaults

I'm talking about the potential. Make it 3 survivors finish 3 gens in 45s when one survivor can manage a 30 second chase to make it sound more realistic. And you miss my point. The post I quoted from you started like you wanted to say "Prove can do the same" which is not comparable at all. That's what my response was about. Different conditions, different skill requirement, different potential.

And what do you mean with "2 survivors is not requirement"? There is no consistent bonus if people dont join you on gens. Btw Prove gives you a nerf reduction on coop gens, you are still more effective when both survivors work on different gens regarding total gen progress. Prove/coop only allows you to finish a gen early enough to give the killer less chance to interrupt you with scourge hooks or pop etc. but in the end Prove just adds a few seconds to that scenario, not 45 seconds that Hyperfocus + Stakeout can give you. (btw I made a mistake, 53 seconds is the coop time without Prove, with prove it takes 46 seconds, so Prove actually saves you 7 seconds when two survivors work on the gen from 0 to 100)

and the comparison I picked was to show that the playerbase changed. During double window (not pallet) shack time, people were learning the game and couldnt abuse it. You could as some videos show, but nearly noone thought about it. During old Hex: Ruin, people were not consistently going for great skill checks, although there were already a few streamers that always hit like the first pixel of the success zone even when not going against Ruin. I'm not exaggerating, I'm just saying the playerbase changes, so you cant compare Hyperfocus with old Ruin. These are two different "ages".

I repeat once, because you again miss the point. if you miss that again I think we can stop talking. in short:

• you argued that hyperfocus is a bad perk, because the 45s you can do with hyperfocus can be done with PT as well
• I argued that you cant compare these two perks, because they have completely different conditions and powerlevel
• you argued that most survivors wont be able to make use of hyperfocus because they suck at great skillchecks and compared that to old ruin times
• I argued that you cant compare the playerbase to that time because playerbase evolves and that IF you manage to get great skillchecks, the effect of hyperfocus is massively higher than PT even can dream of

survivors holding M1 on gens were always at the same threat level to killers, nothing has changed on that since old ruin is gone. and regarding great skillchecks I can tell you that me and my friends are at a 60-70% success rate, I know several streamers that go for great skillchecks no matter what even if it is just for the extra BP, especially on gens, since repairs is the least efficient BP source.

PT doesnt increases your team's efficiency if there are no mates sitting on the same gen as you. no perk value if that doesnt happen. also when you say this as "no requirement", then you could say that there is no requirement to great skillchecks either on hyperfocus. you just occassionally hit your greats and get value. no need to get 6 of them in a row or to get out of your way to force perk value. same as with how you argued about prove. what's the difference? this really doesnt make sense to me. you have a requirement for coop on gens or you get no value.

btw you have to run 20 sec to the next gen anyway, at least once your gen is finished. doesnt make a difference if you do that sooner or later, you will have to travel at one point. and since PT gets weaker for every survivor past 2, then it would actually sometimes make sense to leave depending on the imnportance of that gen that you are sitting on.

and again, as I said you can run hyperfocus on a single survivor, allowing more gen boost than PT can grant with the need of 2 survs repairing the same gen. so what is better, one in a chase and 3 people finishing a single gen or one in a chase and 2-3 others finishing 2-3 gens? the thing on sitting at the same gen is either you get fast progress refusing the killer to interrupt that gen but you can also get interrupted and 2 survivors are in chase. having surge/ruin or whatever even allows that progress to be completely wasted. doing split gens allows one of the gens to get finished because the killer cant, as you said, travel 30 seconds from gen to gen, down survivors and protect all of the gens. both scenarios happen, both have risk/reward and you need to check individually what is the correct solution, depending on which killer, where the chase is and whatever needs to be taken into consideration.

again to sum up: you say hyperfocus is bad and your only argument is that people wont hit great skillchecks. this is simply wrong and I dont get why you compare it with PT because it is a completely different scenario to make use of it. with 2 people hyperfocus you can even compete in a 3gen scenario with only 3 survivors alive. harder to do with PT. Im not saying PT is bad or has no use. And Im totally not saying that hyperfocus outplays PT. also again: both perks have different use scenarios. both have their use cases, hyper focus has the higher potential and the higher skilllevel but definitely not a bad perk. and there are enough people to hit great skillchecks, which can be compensated with stake out, until you learned to hit them (which will also make you not go out of your way and fail a lot of skillchecks, because with stake out you have an incentive to hit the skillchecks rather too late than too early)

if you want to argue, pls always keep the above 4 bullet points in mind.

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